1VaBlue1

February 16th, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^

So did the color guy, what's his forgettable name... The ex-player that should have known better, knew nothing about what he was trying to explain.

Chris Collinsworth... good WR, bad analyst.

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BTB grad

February 17th, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^

He reminded me of Brando who made a fool of himself during the Minnesota game when he kept referring to Khaleke as "A VIPER WITH ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITIES!" when really he was just not being blocked play after play

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Mr Miggle

February 16th, 2018 at 10:59 AM ^

is warranted. How exactly could he know this? 

We're still a ways out from spring practice, the offensive staff was not yet set. How many people would actually be in a position to know that Harbaugh is only feigning interest in tinkering with his offense in that way? Once you get past Harbaugh himself, I have a hard time seeing more. 

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sum1valiant

February 16th, 2018 at 11:56 AM ^

Exactly. When I'm pondering making changes at work, I bring together the circle of people that I trust to provide insight into to potential changes and discuss it. I don't put a sign up in the break room that says something to the extent of "hey guys, thinking of making some changes, let your buddies know".

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trustBlue

February 16th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^

I read UMBig11s post (too lazy to track it down now) and that's not exactly what he said. He didnt say that Harbaugh was not *looking* at the Eagles offense, but just that he was skeptical that we'd see a huge change away from Harbaughffense in favor of a ton of RPOs next year.

I dont think that's insider knowledge as much as understanding that Harbaugh's offensive style is what it is at this point.

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Jimmyisgod

February 16th, 2018 at 10:39 AM ^

Patterson hasn't taken many if any snaps from under center.  I hope he's doing nothing but that right now as the footwork is totally different and the timing will take some time to get down.  Timing is everything.

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LKLIII

February 16th, 2018 at 12:40 PM ^

FWIW, a few weeks ago Sam Webb over at 247 did an interview with Shea's private QB coach who's been with the kid since high school. He says he has his students always do all kinds of drills so that least they've got a baseline of competency in case the kid goes to a new offensive system.

Bottom line was that the coach sounded very confident that Shea under center would not be a big problem or adjustment. Maybe needs more reps to get the timing & muscle memory down with the receivers, but it isn't like he's learning it from scratch.

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maize-blue

February 16th, 2018 at 10:51 AM ^

In three seasons JH's offense really hasn't been too inventive. I'm not really expecting anything much to change with Patterson. Maybe he allows you dig up a few more play types.

A big thing I am waiting to see is how the WR's progress. Because they will have to know how to react and alter routes when plays breakdown and Patterson starts scrambling. 

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JFW

February 16th, 2018 at 11:06 AM ^

This from 7/29/16:

"HARBAUGHFFENSE:

This is what a couple different guys told me. I kind of put it all into one. It's not one direct quote, but they said Michigan ran so many offensive plays…

"I mean, our defensive coordinator said more than he's ever seen in his career. Every week it seemed like they had new packages, new personnel on the field, and they did a lot of misdirection and play-fake stuff. I mean, how many times can Jake Butt, who was voted the best tight end in the Big Ten, run down the middle of the field completely uncovered? It seemed like twice or three times a game he was just- there was nobody within 10 yards. Because they're running all that crazy stuff, our guys were lost."

"The hardest part is that you would spend all week preparing for what you think might be their 60 plays, but then when you played them they only ran 15-20 and then had 40 new plays. It was almost impossible to figure out what they were going to do week to week, so our defensive coordinator would just say to us, 'We're going to match up 11 on 11 and hope that we win enough individual matchups that we can stop them offensively.'"

 

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Space Coyote

February 16th, 2018 at 11:28 AM ^

  • When O works: Complexity is great and causing D problems; do more of it
  • When O doesn't work: Complexity is just turd polishing; do less of it

This, of course, works well with the two current predominant theories that exist on this blog:

  • Our offense has too many plays and window dressing to be successful
  • Our offense is to simple and not innovative enough to be successful

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jwfsouthpaw

February 16th, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^

Then the narrative around here became "the offense is too simple/predictable, where's the innovation and misdirection from 2016??? The offense is stale! Burn it to the ground!"

Seems pretty obvious that being forced to play backup quarterbacks and true freshmen wide receivers (and DPJ, as talented as he is, needed a lot of polish) severely limited the playbook this past season.

 

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bringthewood

February 16th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^

If your QB can't hit the broadside of a barn or accurately read the open players then nothing you call is going to work especailly well. Criticising Harbaugh for not having enough good quaterbacks is fine. But giving him shit because his starter did not play most of the year?

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