Satellite Camps: The Harbaugh Effect

Submitted by MaizeMN on
We're all aware of the player development benefits, increased brand exposure, media hype, SEC hypocritical reactions and other easily recognizable effects that have resulted from the current satellite camp tour. IMO, the cohort effect/benefit will continue to reap dividends well into the future. Not only will MICHIGAN see immediate results on the recruiting trail, but also from the children of these recruits and their kids' kids, as well. While most campers are unlikely to receive a scholarship to UM, there will be countless tales told and retold to future generations of prospective student athletes about "that one time at football camp when Coach Harbaugh said/did..." The seeds that JH and staff are planting now will continue to bear fruit for many years to come. Question: What will be the most impactful result of the 2016 MICHIGAN Summer Swarm?

Toasted Yosties

June 5th, 2016 at 8:00 AM ^

I hope the kids attending these camps will someday sit around a campfire with their 4- and 5-star kids and grandkids and tell the great tales of Harbaugh and Michigan, but, IMO, the greatest impact of these camps (aside from IDing great prospects and spreading the goodwill of Michigan football) will be when the campers return to their high schools football camps at the end of the summer and talk with their younger teammates, who are a few recruiting cycles down the road, about our great coaching staff and what they bring to the table. Hopefully, they will have more initial interest in and knowledge about the Michigan program after hearing what their satellite camp-attending upper classmen teammates have to say.

GhostofJermain…

June 5th, 2016 at 8:23 AM ^

Will be one of the most impactful, and will really get the engines roaring.  My bet is once this takes place they GO 150% after woods, and anyone else we are pursuing in BAMA. 

A war has already started with the SEC, I think we may find a Woody v Bo relationship with Urban Liar (unfortunately).  At this point it's hard to name one SEC coach who has anything good to say about coach, and I don't know about you guys but I'm okay with that.  

There is no sweeter sound than the crumblings of ones fellow man" - Grouch Harbaugh Marx

 

 

LSAClassOf2000

June 5th, 2016 at 8:47 AM ^

I think that the most impactful thing about them is that they exist - and their existence has been upheld. They allow kids who may not have considered Michigan, or who were considering it but could not get here to see Michigan's staff and experience a little bit of Ann Arbor in their own area, or as close to their area as possible. Just by allowing more kids to get an evaluation like this, you're making an impact - even if they don't ultimately come to Michigan, you've made a difference. That's just one aspect of how they make an impact really, but an important one. 

charblue.

June 5th, 2016 at 12:22 PM ^

skill-building, about offering kids a chance to compete and see where they stand and get exposure to some high class coaches. But let's not pretend that they are anything more than an opportunity to be seen. They open the possibility of a possible relationship and future contacts based on the experience, but ultimately the camps are what they are, an opportunity for extracurricular football practice.

The coach, at this point, is going to do what needs to be done to build the program and compete. So the altruistic benefits resulting from his coaching acitivities will evolve naturally.  I mean this guy just loves football coaching as a business and a profession. And he likes people. So, that's a great combination in a business that requires selling at the most personal level to win, motivate and train others.

SCWolverine1978

June 5th, 2016 at 8:58 PM ^

I think this is a brochure-like statement on the camp's mission.  I don't disagree, but I think ultimately what we'll see is this being more and more or a branding opportunity than a truely valuable evaluation opportunity for the Michigan coaches.

Sounds like some offer level kids showed up in Georgia, but only watched, while the ones that competed were a step down.   Still good to have anyone show up to watch Harbaugh in action!!!  

JBE

June 5th, 2016 at 8:50 AM ^

I highly doubt the grandchildren of the campers will care one iota more about Michigan due to these camps. By then college football will be obsolete. Also they won't care either way.

JBE

June 5th, 2016 at 9:29 AM ^

By that time the amateur system of college football will be greatly changed, or the nature of football itself will be greatly changed due to health concerns, or both. In a couple generations football as we know it won't exist, imo. Just can't keep putting these kids in harm's way for a mere scholarship.

Craptain Crunch

June 5th, 2016 at 9:01 AM ^

Is most likley getting high ranked kids from the South who would have never dreamt of visiting Michigan to actually visit Michigan to see what it is all about after interacting with coaches at the camps. Getting kids on campus is half the battle. But all of this comes down to Michigan winning big games and big bowl games under Harbaugh

Rodriguesqe

June 5th, 2016 at 9:29 AM ^

These camps are so much ado about nothing. Its great that Harbaugh likes to do them and it sounds like kids like going, and maybe Michigan gets something of a recruiting edge out of them.

But this board acts like they are life or death. They're nice but Michigan was fine before them and will be fine after them. They're not the most important thing in the world and banning them would not be the greatest injustice in the world. The consternation they cause, especially on this board, is way out of line with relevance.

Wolfman

June 5th, 2016 at 10:47 AM ^

I believe you are trying to give them a place of their own, and due to reactions from others - not Michigan fan base - they have, to a great extent caused consternation, dismay whatever, but on the part of others and that's basically the only reason Michigan satellite camps have taken on a life of their own. 

Originally, it was a good move, but part of his overall plan to re-establish the Michigan brand to the level he knew as a player. By virtue of all the whiners from a certain part of the country, they, along with all the other interest Harbaugh receives, in large measure for the same reason - things that have never been done or "foolishly" working through what should be vacation time - basically pissing other coaches off, that brand has already been re-established and may actually surpass the cache it carried in '86.

So I think you are wrong in that they are needless, especially now, after the child-like behavior of these geopraphically challenged coaches. This is just one of the reason he is resetting the bar for coaches. Recruits are going to expect the energy, the tireless devotion toward excellence, a coach willing to stop what he's doing to help explain something. 

The dividends that Gus said we'd never realize have already begun to come in and if players of the caliber of Nico start faxing their LOIs, revisit your post and tell me these camps are much ado about nothing. Young men from all over the country have a new interest in MI and its as much to do with the publicity surrounding the camps than the camps themselves, But about nothing???? Don't see it that way, not in the slightest. 

Rodriguesqe

June 5th, 2016 at 8:39 PM ^

Kids should be making decisions on college based on some order of :

academics

coaching

chance to win

depth chart

geography / fondness of campuss

friends

For a top 100 recruit like Harris the staff would have been all over him regardless of the camps. Do they help us get a foot in the door? Maybe. But Michigan has never done bad in that regard. Michigan + Harbaugh, we're already using jetfuel.

MGJS SuperKick Party

June 5th, 2016 at 9:47 AM ^

Camps are great to help kids who would never consider Michigan get the coaching and guidance from such great coaches. Just because you're not good enough to go D1 doesn't mean that you don't love the game as much or more than people who do.

ElBictors

June 5th, 2016 at 10:04 AM ^

The most successful program in the history of the sport ...the program that taught noter dame the game when a train broke down ...just went through arguably its worst decade. These camps are a brilliant way of re-establishing MICHIGAN's place. It's for all those expert fans of rival programs who say, "the kids being recruited today only know Michigan as an average team ...they weren't born when Bo was there ...they never saw Desmond or Woodson play." The way in which they piss off the SEC is priceless and the way Harbaugh is reintroducing or introducing MICHIGAN to all these kids is brilliant. You'll have kids playing at Troy or Louisiana Tech whose second favorite team is MICHIGAN because of these camps. Plus all the great grand kids who will come to play in 2072

blueblue

June 5th, 2016 at 10:16 AM ^

In the short term, the camps are a good placeholder for winning titles and putting players in the NFL. Before long, they're going to limit how many camps you can do, other schools will do them, and if we don't win titles and place kids in the NFL they won't matter nearly as much.

But in the long run they're really valuable because of the emphasis on teaching and learning to be great. That's spectacular branding, because it resonates with the academic prowess of the school. Winning and making kids rich can attract 5* talent, but if you want the kids that are hard workers and good team players, reinforcing the Michigan brand is going to be really valuable. The difference between the two will play out on the field every November between Michigan and Ohio State.

ford_428cj

June 5th, 2016 at 11:19 AM ^

Holy negative Nancy for a couple posts above. Health risks aside - people love to play football. Take J Peppers for example - the dude loves the game. Same for JH. 

 

One of the benefits IMO - is it's showing potential recruits how dedicated JH is to winning. He knows no boundaries in putting in the hard work needed,  to build a national championship level team. Recruits take notice of that Imo...

 

 

Sledgehammer

June 5th, 2016 at 11:33 AM ^

I think a big benefit will be if local high school coaches show up and see Coach Harbaugh in action. Even if they don't interact, the high school coaches can have a better sense of how Harbaugh coaches and be more likely to support UM if one of their players were to get a scholarship offer.

Wolfman

June 5th, 2016 at 6:49 PM ^

Spot on when you say, "Even if they don't interact, the high school coaches can have a better sense of how Harbaugh coaches and be more likely to support UM if one of their players were to get a scholarship offer."

It's my guess in addition to the high school coaches realizing the "real deal" when they see it, especially those in areas where football is king and even the h.s. coaches are excellent in their own right simply because they have to be. 

It's that realization, of trying to "one up" their main rival or simply coach's pride that will cause them to not only witness but to implement that which they can take away from their limited exposure to the Michigan staff. When that translates into one, sometimes two more victories per season for them the endorsement of Michigan will be done in all CAPS.

I know that when I went from close to "gotcha" was spending time with a couple of w.coach legends in the coaching field. Just minor things I was allowing, but I would never have even addressed, let alone correct if they would not have pointed them out. After these corrections were made I was a much better coach all around, and particularly with my assistants. I think they will realize the same. 

Ball Hawk

June 5th, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^

The kids get to see how good and outgoing the coaches are and how they interact with everyone. The parents will definitely notice and consider Michigan an option for their kid even if it's far from home.

spigmoni

June 5th, 2016 at 1:29 PM ^

Regardless of impact towards Michigan/recruiting, the camps themselves are great for the game itself.  Period. Harbaugh truly believes he is an ambassador for the sport itself, especially when there are so many things attacking the game regarding whether its truly amateur, health risks, CTE, etc.  But the fundamentals of the game itself transcend any of this, and I believe it teaches young men how to be men (short of going into the military).  The game builds character and teaches so many things youths do not get in today's society. I'm happy that Michigan happens to be the beacon of light for an amazing sport and life lessons learned.