TrueBlue2003

October 19th, 2020 at 1:09 PM ^

I was just thinking the same.  Not that the state trends mean much for such a hyper specific group of people that should otherwise have no reason to come into contact with anyone else, but if you already have an outbreak, it's not far to get to the conference threshold for not playing.

WolvinLA2

October 19th, 2020 at 1:17 PM ^

I agree with a lot of this, but the bulk of the COVID growth within Minnesota (which I agree is pretty bad) is not around the twin cities area where U of Minnesota is. Rural MN is getting slammed by COVID, near the border of the Dakotas where COVID is having a damn field day in the last few weeks.  For those who haven't been following it, ND and SD are now 1st and 3rd, respectively, in COVID cases per capita, and SD is about to jump Louisiana for 2nd soon. So that part of MN is getting hit really hard, whereas Minneapolis is kinda bad but not too bad.

ftroop

October 19th, 2020 at 2:01 PM ^

Alternate take:  the outbreaks are currently greatest in the rural red areas because this is a virus, and viruses spread.  There was no outbreak in the UP and Northern Michigan like downstate for many months.  Now it's spreading there.  It spreads everywhere eventually.

L'Carpetron Do…

October 19th, 2020 at 3:19 PM ^

This is a weak take. Do viruses spread? Sure. But, they are dependent on human behavior to do so. The rate of spread can be slowed or accelerated by how humans act. In many of these states, and especially the rural areas, they did little to nothing to prevent it.The rural areas are actually the easiest to protect from a virus like this, but we failed. 

Don't ignore the human factor. This idea of 'it's just getting here now' is wrong.

TrueBlue2003

October 19th, 2020 at 4:07 PM ^

I agree that this is the bigger driver.  It's gettting everywhere eventually.  Everywhere that's not being hit badly right now has either already been hit hard or will be hit hard.  Behavior matters some but let's be clear, our behavior hasn't been good enough anywhere to avoid getting hit at some point. 

JonnyHintz

October 20th, 2020 at 6:50 AM ^

Per how masks work, they’re much more effective in preventing you from spreading the virus to others than they are in preventing you from getting it. Masks are about keeping others safe, not keeping yourself safe. Even then, it isn’t 100%, it just lowers the risks. 

 

So the bigger question (ignoring the potential inaccuracies of the number) is t whether 80% of people were wearing masks. Its how many people they were around that weren’t wearing their masks. 
 

As many of us have also seen in our treks through the public, some people “wear their mask,” but ignore a host of other health and safety guidelines. Wearing your mask doesn’t do you a whole lot of good if you lift your mask to scratch your nose while you’re at the grocery store. It doesn’t do you much good if you’re touching your nose and mouth after you leave the grocery store after using the carts. Wearing a mask is just one of many things we have to do to help slow the spread and limit the risks. Wearing a mask isn’t going to make you immune, especially if you’re being careless in other areas. 

WolvinLA2

October 19th, 2020 at 3:24 PM ^

Depends on how you're defining "GOP states" because as many as 4 of those (FL, NV, AZ and maybe GA) are going to be blue in this next election, at least as the polls are currently predicting. The rest are red for sure, so your overall point (the bulk of the top states) still stands.

Commie_High96

October 19th, 2020 at 3:17 PM ^

I don’t know if it is a red/blue situation. like most things in America Covid spread is more about economic status and education. People with less of both are transmitting because they don’t have cushy, white collar jobs they can do from home. Red/Blue are just elites distracting people to prevent class consciousness. 

TrueBlue2003

October 19th, 2020 at 1:15 PM ^

You underestimate the means with which sharps have to get this information.  The players themselves know, which means those in the program know, their friends know, and it's not that hard to find out via inside information and it only takes one or a small number of big bettors.  When they start dropping bets for tens of thousands of dollars, the line will move pretty quickly.

Dorothy_ Mantooth

October 19th, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^

agree 100%! 

can you imagine a person walking around 20 years ago, taking pictures of themselves (and what they're about to eat, or where they at) with a camera and then scanning those pictures and attaching it to an email or a letter and sending it to a number of friends and people they know?!

upon seeing that activity, any rationale human would thought that self-picture taker (and mailer) was (at best) a raging narcissist... and just because its more convenient in the era of smart phones and social media, doesn't make that conduct less narcissistic or desperate (for attention)

Brimley

October 19th, 2020 at 3:21 PM ^

To be fair, Facebook is mostly patrolled by older folks and Twitter seems to have become a bizarro place for old politicians to zing one another.  However...younger people seem to have an outsized famous for being famous presence on the other platforms du jour.  Famous for being famous is nothing new; just a new way of getting there.

Wendyk5

October 19th, 2020 at 2:00 PM ^

Thanks to Facebook, I now converse regularly with friends from all over the country, and I have introduced friends from one part of my life to friends from another part, and now we're all friends and converse regularly. I never see political ads of any kind, and keep my friend list to people I know personally. The only downside of Facebook for me is the political discussions between like-minded friends. You just can't get away from politics if you want to stay plugged in at all.