OT:Nasser sentenced to 60 years.

Submitted by Hugh on December 7th, 2017 at 1:10 PM

When does this hit MSU. I think this is worse than the Penn State scandal as Nasser was doing his sexual malpractice as an official of both the MSU athletic department and as an official of the U.S. Gymanastics committee. It has been reported that when MSU women complained to the athletic department about his behavior they were told to shut up or they would have no future in gymnastics. When does the shoe drop at MSU? 

If this was Michigan it would have been the only thing the FREEP would have talked about for the past year.


Aged Wolverine 68

December 8th, 2017 at 12:27 AM ^

I went to visit someone I knew in prison once. Pretty sobering experience. He told me n a friend the prisoners would shoot loads on the shower handles to screw with other prisoners. Said earlier in the day some "critter as he called em" got 1 shotted, and knocked the hell out. Trivial stuff.

Didnt sound like any place I would want to be.

I saw a news report once of prison in another country. They thought a guy was a child rapist(he wasnt guilty it turned out), and after they were done, dude could of used a man-pon. They took turns driving it home was way I read it.

I have had Crohns for 35 yrs now. Had part of my gut removed also. No way I would trade for what that guy went thru. Holy Hell.

I saw another show about prison in Africa(might of been same as man-pon guy). The guy said he would rape every new prisoner. Not for the sex, but to show them he was number 1 in prison, and they now belonged to him.

Crazy stuff.


December 7th, 2017 at 1:30 PM ^

He plead guilty. As a victim, I think I would rather see him admit guilt and then spend the rest of his life in prison than have to spend the next two years in trial for the same result. Trials are hard on victims. Now it’s over.

That’s just me though. I could never understand what these women have gone through or try to comprehend what they are thinking.


December 7th, 2017 at 1:33 PM ^

I agree, but this was only for the charges of child pornography. He is going to be on trial again in state court for the charges of molestation in January. Hopefully they another +60 years to his sentence. 


December 7th, 2017 at 1:42 PM ^

he plead guilty to the molestation charges already in Ingham and Eaton Co? Can't recall with all the shyte this guy is getting charged with now.  But I'm with the group that 5 years for child porn isn't enough regardless of the other charges.

Not a proponent but there are times when I wish that MI had capital punishment. Like for this miserable excuse for a human.


December 8th, 2017 at 8:12 AM ^

this is actually just for the stuff they found on his computer at home; the sentence for what he did in his capacity as a "doctor" is coming in the next few weeks, i thought? 


December 7th, 2017 at 2:28 PM ^

The girls that have been assaulted include people like Gabby Douglas, Aly Raisman, and Mckayla Maroney. These three are bigger stars than almost all college football players. 

It should be a huge deal. I think it's getting swamped by the outbreak of revelations about celebrities and politicians, though.

EDIT: It occurs to me that this may be partly because stories are bigger when it's the perp that's notable, rather than the victim. And that's unfortunate.

oriental andrew

December 7th, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^

is not how many charges or how many kids, but that evil is evil. One is not any darker black than the other.

So yeah, no need to compare the stats on this one. They're both depraved perpetrators, and both administrations are full of cowards who should be held accountable for failing to do what was right. 

The Harbaughnger

December 7th, 2017 at 9:40 PM ^

100% agree on the point you're making- that evil is evil, darkness is darkness- and from that perspective, the ‘stats’ are meaningless.


But there absolutely is a societal/cultural value to comparison here…


"When bad men combine, the good must associate, else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." -Edmund Burke


…and that value is you’re able to better understand the magnitude of cowardice of good men who, 1 by 1, looked the other way.


At a certain point, the void of good men reaches a critical mass where virtually every next good man will count the risk to self too great, and they lay down.


In this specific scenario you can make a pretty sound argument that the MSU statistics reveal a much bigger cultural problem than was uncovered at PSU…


The root is the same, but the scope is vastly different.  Considering how many fewer years it took to reach this level vs. the situation at PSU, it’s hard to see any angle where the MSU situation isn’t much, much worse.


December 7th, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^

I am also completely bewildered at how (a) this has not heretofore gotten MSU in really hot water both legally and in the court of public opinion, and (b) how this is not a giant story and scandal at a national level.


December 7th, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^

I think some of it also revolves around MSU agreeing with public opinion. The Spartys I've talked to want anyone and everything associated with this fired and jailed. That includes their president and AD Hollis. They are appalled and want answers just as much as the public.

Penn State was dealing with a much larger program than woman's gymnastics and a much larger figure as part of the cover up. Nobody gives a flying fuck about MSU gymnastics, it's President, or it'd athletic director. Penn State was dealing with a legendary coach as part of the cover up.

Amaizin' Blue

December 7th, 2017 at 1:23 PM ^

But unfortunately the damage is done. All the punishment in the world against Spaeth can’t take away the pain of the victims.

That said, I wish I had hope that the NCAA, MSU or someone would do the right thing and impose punishment - monetary, scholarships, whatever. But as we learned in the Ped State case, the mighty dollar will rule again.

Yes, if it were Michigan we would come clean and impose punishment. It’s the right thing to do. My goodness, we stretched for an extra 20 minutes in football and the world nearly came to an end. Investigations, reforms.... you name it. Any of that at MSU? Seriously, what is their response. Where there is smoke there is fire. Maybe Mork was right with his last tweet..... it is just getting started.