Buy Bushwood

March 4th, 2023 at 2:14 PM ^

It could be argued that a lopsided B1G put him in the position of a pretender to the throne, and that it was therefore inevitable that he fall back to Earth when playing the only other good team.  

CityOfKlompton

March 4th, 2023 at 11:45 AM ^

Nah, he had a shot two years ago as well. Bryce Young wasn't a slam dunk until Michigan beat Ohio State, and Young basically carried Alabama to a come-from-behind win over Auburn in primetime that same day. If the Buckeyes had won The Game that year, CCG would have been the difference maker between the two of them.

Swayze Howell Sheen

March 4th, 2023 at 1:00 PM ^

Actually, tbh, he was pretty good in both games. He has an amazing touch and can drop a pass into a tiny window. Think about the Sainristil play - if the TE is more athletic and goes up and grabs the ball with authority, it's an amazing touchdown. The fact that we beat him twice is awesome; the fact that he played WELL and we beat him twice is even better.

rice4114

March 4th, 2023 at 1:18 PM ^

I think passing yards is the biggest misleading stat in the game. He had two picks and his NFL loaded roster had 23 points. That is an absolute disaster. Hokes teams could score 23 points during their worst stretches. Playing from  behind makes the numbers look good, much like JJ vs TCU, but much like that game those two picks made it hard to overcome. Honestly that entire offense should be embarrassed after what TCU did to us.

Monk

March 4th, 2023 at 11:24 AM ^

Probably why this is the best rivalry in sports, I do think Boston-New York comes close, when those teams are good, their games, especially in the playoffs, can be intense, but OSU-UM typically happens once so there's a finality there, now of course, they could meet in the playoffs.

Tunneler

March 4th, 2023 at 12:22 PM ^

Golf is a game, baseball is a sport. If you can play defense at the same time that your opponent is playing offense, it’s a sport. That is to say, if you can counteract your opponent in real time, it’s more than just a game. I would like to see a no-holds barred golf match though. Would require beskar armor though.

Jota09

March 4th, 2023 at 2:00 PM ^

I've always felt the same way as Tunneler. I don't classify the sports you mentioned as games, more competitions. They require athletic ability, practice to hone your skills, and dedication just like baseball, football, hockey, etc. But I think any sport where you actively compete against the other person, they are on offense and you on defense and vice versa, is a cut above. If you're watching the other person do their thing you've lost control of half of the competition. This is especially true in the case of judges. Not only do you have no control over your opponent's activities, you're at the mercy of a 3rd party.  And we've had plenty of evidence over the years of judges not being impartial. 

As to your listed sports, I don't know why wrestling is there.  That is 1v1 physical combat.  It does have judges and can be corrupt at times but you always have the opportunity to win without judges, same as boxing and mma.  It would be to compete until someone wins, but we don't want people to die. 

Track and field is a different breed.  You lose the ability to physically defend your opponent but you are competing alongside them.  The Sprinters and long distance runners are usually running at the same time as their competition and know what they have to do to win.  There is no nuance, best time wins.  The other events don't have direct competition but when throwing the javelin I know what my competition has done to that point and what I have to do.  No judges, just how far can I throw it.  

Swimming is the same as sprinting.  You know what's going on around you for the most part and what you have to do.  

I'mTheStig

March 4th, 2023 at 6:09 PM ^

As to your listed sports, I don't know why wrestling is there.

Because quite clearly I'm responding to the notion that sports are only if you play offense versus defense.

Wrestling doesn't have offense and defense.

It would be to compete until someone wins, but we don't want people to die. 

Go to bed, you're drunk.

mgoblue78

March 4th, 2023 at 5:21 PM ^

Jim Mc Kay and I agree with this false dichotomy. Football, baseball, soccer, basketball, hurling, ski jumping, swimming, track & field, caber tossing.... they're all part of the Wide World of Sports. Games? Chess, checkers, Monopoly, Risk, poker, chemen de fer, Mousetrap, Operation....

CLord

March 4th, 2023 at 11:26 AM ^

Dude's not that good.  Had the best receiving group in the country all his years at OSU along with a solid line and couldn't muster 26 points against Michigan on 2 tries.  Lacked the fundamental quality of most effective OSU QBs which was lethal run threat,. He will be a bust in the NFL alongside the vast majority of OSU QBs.

XM - Mt 1822

March 4th, 2023 at 11:54 AM ^

you know, i do wonder if that's not spot-on.  he has a very good arm but he's a C or maybe a C+ on mobility.  and what you say about having other-worldly receivers making him look better than he is, there's some truth to that.  seems like a decent kid, i'll be curious if/how he makes it in the NFL.  he's no hurts, burrow, or even justin fields. 

WestQuad

March 4th, 2023 at 1:28 PM ^

OSU had a crazy passing game against Michigan two years ago.  I was scared or a comeback the whole game until HH ground them to dust.  …but his receivers, who are excelling in the NFL, made some insane catches.  It is hard to judge how good he is at OSU.  
I always say that Michigan only has 3-5 “tough” games each year (OSU, PSU, MSU, [Wisconsin] and a bowl game.  We should win at least 3 out of 5 to have a good year.

Like it or not OSU has so much more talent than the rest of the league that they really only have 2- 3 “tough” games.  Michigan, maybe PSU and their bowl game.   We’re back on the horse now, but for awhile there we were OSU’s MSU.  A game they should definitely win, but the other team is up for the game.  Point being that if OSU doesn’t go undefeated or have one loss they’ve had a lousy year.   Not beating Michigan means that CJ Stroud is the worst OSU QB in [20] years. He only had 2-3 games to prove himself this year (ND or PSU counts plus the bowl) and he went 1-2…. 2-2 if you count both PSU and ND.  That isn’t Heisman caliber.

That said he’s definitely talented or he wouldn’t be there.  McCord or Quinn Ewers would be.