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To let another ecac team in?…

To let another ecac team in? maybe

My core tenet is probably…

My core tenet is probably using KenPom for any games I don't have familiarity with the teams, and then picking about 6 or 7 upsets, and maybe picking a champion that other's aren't (this year UConn is the most popular). My grieving would be Tech Tech and BYU whom I had in the sweet-16.

Right now the cutoff line is…

Right now the cutoff line is 14, the only way UM could be out is if they lose to Minn and every conference has an upset. So say OSU wins their tourney, and there are upsets in the ECAC, HE, and NCHC, the cutoff be at 11, where UM could be if they lose. I don't know if it will reach 100% tomorrow, but it would be great if it does. 

I don't know how anyone can…

I don't know how anyone can say what a team needs when it's not their last game of the season. If it was, then you would have pulled the goalie for a 6x4. But in this case, you can play for OT and see what happens. They're 13th now, so in the field but as another poster mentioned, if they won in regulation, their PWR would have been 10th. A shootout is treated as tie, so thinking they probably would have been 14 or 15. An OT loss, probably 15. Last night they lost in regulation and didn't their PWR didn't move because the teams around them lost. 

UM was actually 14th for a…

UM was actually 14th for a few minutes before their and the CC result became final.

In the Super Bowl, hard to…

In the Super Bowl, hard to argue against Joe's numbers, but he did get benched in a playoff game in 87 vs. the Vikings, a game that Anthony Carter took over. Right now I'd put Mahomes with Aikman, who also had great numbers in the super bowl, behind Montana and Brady.

I do think not getting…

I do think not getting Harbaugh to come back to UM really shouldn't be held against him, given how clear it was that he wanted to leave for the NFL at some point. Interesting point on the Iowa AD as she's let Caitlin Clark really benefit from the NIL.

As someone else mentioned,…

As someone else mentioned, Tom Brady was in a heated argument with his OC, Bill O'Brien that I think Belichik had to step in. Brady said that's how the relationship was, nothing really personal. 

I think there are a lot of…

I think there are a lot of other factors that go into evaluating an AD at Michigan anyway. For sure, running a clean department, turning a profit would have to be at the top. He can point to extending Harbaugh, getting the dept through Covid in addition to the field successes, football, two hockey frozen fours. He did hire Pearson though, and did not attempt to keep JH. UM finished 21st in the fall Directors Cup, getting points from football, womens soccer, womens c/c and mens c/c. They're in the 3rd in the big-10 behind Wisconsin and PSU, and in terms of rivals, ND is at 4, Oregon is 18 and UCLA is 19. 

If it's a safe bet that they…

If it's a safe bet that they would have made the FG, they definitely should have tried the FG. I'm not a Lions fan, but was rooting for them so they could get to the Super Bowl. At that point the Niners had scored 10 points, so it wasn't like you knew they were going to score the TDs they did. A 17 point deficit takes a lot of air out of most teams. The momentum is still with Detroit and there's no way to tell how the Niners would have reacted after the FG.

 

Agree on the line play, but…

Agree on the line play, but the OSU offense hasn't exactly struggled against good defenses. CJ Stroud was drafted 2nd mainly on his performance against GA, and the offense played well enough to win 2 of the Michigan games. And they really haven't had issues with any other team that you would consider a good defense - PSU or Iowa. 

UM is 15 in the PWR after…

UM is 15 in the PWR after yesterday, after moving up to 11/12 on Saturday. However, this year the CCHA autobid is not in the top-16 so that means the top-14 go in. 

The teams UM has played so far:  Wisconsin - 4, MSU - 7, Prov - 9, Minn - 11, Mass- 13, SCSU-14.

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I don't think losing Beilein…

I don't think losing Beilein or Bakich were really his fault, Beilein wanted to go after all the early departures and the situation with Poole. UM didn't want to match Bakich's offer. And we know Harbaugh has flirted with the NFL the last few years, so he wouldn't be blamed for JH leaving. 

There is no world where an AD will be on the hot seat after the team won the football championship. 

He may want to stay, but I…

He may want to stay, but I don't think he will sign a No NFL contract that was supposedly discussed a couple of weeks back. If he really does want to win a Super Bowl, now that he's won a college NC, I'm not sure what UM could do keep him. 

Brady was a solid 4-star, he…

Brady was a solid 4-star, he was down to UM and Cal. 

Honestly, I thought Michigan…

Honestly, I thought Michigan's snapping on s/t was, a little off as well, along with ball placement, there could be some field issues as well, or just nerves as the announcers said.

They played phenomenal, when…

They played phenomenal, when's the special teams going to be posted? :-)

They played phenomenal, when…

They played phenomenal, when's the special teams going to be posted? :-)

Definitely a bad call,…

Definitely a bad call, wondering though if the Lions only sent Decker, the refs would not have screwed up. Then only one player to deal with, the ref even said the second person didn't have to report. I saw that teams send in two to confuse the defense, but the if the refs know that Decker is eligible, the Cowboys would have known that as well.

Harbaugh has brough in top…

Harbaugh has brough in top classes before, the current team still has more 4* and 5* than 3* or less. 

Agree, probably the main…

Agree, probably the main reason they hired Staley, the connection to McVay. Ekeler and Allen, as someone already brought up, are pretty solid for offensive skill players. The defense, Bosa, Mack, Derwin James, also has some good pieces, if they're healthy, are good, but that's been an issue. It would have to rank above the Bears, Raiders and Panthers, especially for a coach that wants to win now.

An undefeated big ten…

An undefeated big ten champion is not getting left out of the playoffs. 

ESPN is probably tighter…

ESPN is probably tighter with the ACC then the SEC and they don't even have the playoff games. Wouldn't they want the SEC teams in their bowls? That's kind of how I see it.

Palm at CBS has Texas as the…

Palm at CBS has Texas as the fourth, the ESPN predictor tool as well. 

The committee will spin to…

The committee will spin to include Alabama, earlier in the year loss, however both have conference championships in this scenario, Georgia could be out. 

I remembered his first…

I remembered his first article as well on his UM colleagues. It was pretty humorous about how he had to put up with so many Michigan alumni at his work. Agree that his articles are pretty balanced.

Original scenario: 

UGA, UM…

Original scenario: 

UGA, UM, Oregon, Texas, FSU, Washington, OSU, Alabama, Missouri, PSU

With FSU winning, they take the fourth spot and Texas goes to 5th.

onhockeytv has MSU beating…

onhockeytv has MSU beating Minnesota 4-3 in shootout.

Agree, if both UW and Oregon…

Agree, if both UW and Oregon win this weekend, the winner of the pac-12 championship game is in. That leaves Georgia (probably in even if they lose to Alabama, winner of UM/OSU, and whomever does better between FSU/Texas over the next two weeks. It's hard to see both FSU and Texas lose, but it could happen. 

USC is pretty lucky to have…

USC is pretty lucky to have they record now, after Caleb Williams leaves, they may actually have a worse record than one of your also-rans. And PSU is not going to compete for the big-10 anytime soon. USC defense needs a total overhaul to win in the big ten. 

For all sports or just…

For all sports or just football? I don't know what UM would gain by leaving basketball or hockey or softball, but I guess it may have to be all sports.

Let's hope there's some…

Let's hope there's some aggressiveness on this drive, misdirection, not going into the teeth of the defense.

They were doing a pretty…

They were doing a pretty good job till then. OSU will scheme to get him open as well, rubs or picks. 

The tiebreaker in that case…

The tiebreaker in that case is winning percentage of teams they played in the west, where PSU has an edge because they played Iowa. 

Coaches make a lot of…

Coaches make a lot of mistakes their first couple of years on the job, and if this was any other coach, nobody would really have paid much attention to the result. They would probably have said what most are saying now - it was a great game. But because of the hype around Deion, this game probably got way more scrutiny that it should have, it's Colorado and Stanford, not Oregon and Washington. And the hype around Deion got people to root against him as well.  

In the regulation mode, at…

In the regulation mode, at least in the Premier League, only 3 get relegated out of 20, this from a quick google search, so I could be off on the actual numbers. Given that most teams don't get relegated, I would probably start with 4 initially - Rutgers, Illinois, Indiana, Nebraska, only because recency playing an effect. But you would have to consider one of NU or MSU to swap maybe with Rutgers as someone pointed out.

In the original list, I'd put Wisconsin in the top-8. 

 

Are you saying wrt money? NU…

Are you saying wrt money? NU and Michigan as well, have a lot of money, and for NU, they could get rid of the football program if it became a drag on the university. Their identity is not tied to athletics from talking about it with some alums I know. 

I actually think it's better…

I actually think it's better to be 2 or even 3 than 1, target on your back, maybe even higher expectations. UM is sort of flying under the radar with UGA, Colorado, USC getting more attention.

Georgia has not played well…

Georgia has not played well so far, but their defense is legit. Most of the points from Auburn came off of GA turnovers. Alabama's defense will end up being ok as well, I agree though that most of the SEC are not great at defense.

The 2006 defense was pretty…

The 2006 defense was pretty good as well.

I'm leaning to root against…

I'm leaning to root against OSU on this one, only because ND has a slightly tougher schedule (Duke, USC, Clemson). But if OSU did win, wouldn't be that bad either, but outside of UM and PSU, not sure they have a tough game.

It's not the highest all…

It's not the highest all time, btw, the first and second had at UM around 6 or 7.

They are still paying for…

They are still paying for firing Frank Solich, I just googled that he went 58-19 there but he wasn't Tom Osbourne, they let him go. 

I recall going on a hockey…

I recall going on a hockey message board and one WMU fan posted, we played well but had no answer for that guy.

I'm here in the bay area in…

I'm here in the bay area in the middle of pac-10 country and it's not like they don't play defense, they typically put their best players on offense, so if a HS recruit could be a really good WR or CB, they would put those kids at WR. USC was ready to take that 4th spot last year until Caleb Williams got hurt in the title game and they ended up losing to Utah. 

That list is a combination…

That list is a combination of college, where they were drafted and NFL, they also say that they limit the NFL production to their first five years. Henne I think is the only one playing, and it's not like UM has had QB production like the other colleges.  

Not to get even more geeky,…

Not to get even more geeky, IBM did approach Bill Gates but he referred them to another person that had already created an operating system - Gary Kildall who owned DR DOS. Kildall didn't sign their NDA, the reasons why, we don't fully know. Gates and Allen (the other co-founder) signed and the IBM deal was set. 

They missed on Caris LeVert,…

They missed on Caris LeVert, should be ahead of Hardaway and Poole, he's a better all around player than them. Whether he should be ahead of the others, I'm not sure.

But the QBs from UM are not…

But the QBs from UM are not really lighting it up either. There was a good run with Grbac, Griese, Brady, even Henne, but that was in the 1990s and 2000s. To be fair, I don't think any where high draft picks. I think OU maybe pretty good as well to add to your list and good call on Purdue. 

For a HS recruit, the higher you're drafted, the more money you'll get in the rookie deal, so it would be a good selling point even if you're a bust. 

Agree, the PSU goalie really…

Agree, the PSU goalie really kept them in the game. I thought if they could get one, the second may come a little easier.