CWood2

May 9th, 2024 at 7:52 PM ^

Awful, awful post. I dislike both of those coaches, but to call one a murderer and one a racist is terrible. People throw these words around way too easily. I wish this forum would be held to a higher standard. Also can’t believe how many upvotes. Give your a head a shake if you upvoted that post.

CWood2

May 9th, 2024 at 11:34 PM ^

Morons. The lot of you. If he killed a kid, he would be jail. Even if it was manslaughter, like the other mental midget said, he’d be in jail. Whatever, continue to call everyone killers and racists when you don’t like them. Fits in well with the current environment we find ourselves in.  

It’s the same mindset that allows our rivals to call Harbaugh a cheater, and the same mindset that allows anyone to vilify anyone else who doesn’t agree with them. 

AWAS

May 10th, 2024 at 8:14 AM ^

Your criticism of online toxicity isn't wrong.  You complain about vilifying anyone who doesn't agree with one's position on an issue--but then you call those who don't agree with your position "morons" and "mental midgets".  Either you did that intentionally to demonstrate your point (in which case, well done) or you are a hypocrite lacking in self-awareness (in which case, the interwebz will speak). 

Phaedrus

May 10th, 2024 at 8:42 AM ^

Morons. The lot of you.


That’s a strange way to begin a complaint about how people are quick to judge and apply labels.

If he killed a kid, he would be jail.

And if Ben Roethlisburger raped a girl, he would also be in jail, no? Your faith in our justice system to be the arbiter of truth is, well, quaint.

Whatever, continue to call everyone killers and racists when you don’t like them.

These poor millionaire coaches. How will they ever survive internet slander? Also, I never committed to calling Chip racist—I just think it’s reasonable that others would draw that conclusion based on the allegations against him. I do think that Iowa S&C coach was racist and I didn’t even know who he was before the story broke and I’m indifferent to Iowa as a program. Coming to a conclusion that someone is racist based on their alleged behavior  is a reasonable thing to do if the allegations seem credible.

“It’s the same mindset that allows our rivals to call Harbaugh a cheater” (quote button stopped working—bug?)

I don’t think anyone here would argue that we never violated rules during Harbaugh’s time here. Our main complaint is that the rules violations were overblown and comparable to the violations our whining rivals regularly self report. So calling Harbaugh a “cheater” is hypocritical.

Unless we’re going by the “everyone kills people” standard ar OSU, I do not think it’s irresponsible, incorrect, or unethical to publicly state that Brian Kelly killed a kid. If I were texting while driving and it caused an accident where someone died, then it would be accurate to say I killed someone. Kelly put that kid in a dangerous situation even after the danger had been pointed out to him. He made that decision and the kid died as a result.

I had mixed feelings about Kelly before that incident, but I never vilified him before he did something to truly deserve it. You have no reason to assume I think Kelly was guilty of manslaughter due to personal animosity. Maybe it’s due to your mindset that allows you to quickly vilify anyone who doesn’t agree with you. 

The Oracle 2

May 10th, 2024 at 10:07 AM ^

Chip Kelly has been coaching college and pro football for more than thirty years, and during that time has no doubt coached hundreds of black players. But because a handful of former players knock him in a Twitter video, only one of whom links his issues with Kelly to race, Kelly is a “racist asshole.” I guess this makes perfect sense in 2024.

1WhoStayed

May 9th, 2024 at 4:40 PM ^

Thank you 87. I agree 100%. “He released me off of allegations” sounds like sour grapes. “Uncomfortable dealing with blacks…” is not exactly racism - and it’s just 1 persons opinion. And the last was someone he called who he KNEW had a beef with Kelly. If Chip Kelly was racist - I would think it would have come out long ago.

Whether you hate the guy or not - that’s a bell that is hard to “unring”.

MGlobules

May 9th, 2024 at 5:35 PM ^

Yeah, would have been a mite more thoughtful for the OP to place a question mark after the title. I mean, this allegation may quickly get seconded from people around the league, but in the meantime, there's really just one former player in the video declaring that. 

OTOH, while being uncomfortable around people doesn't prove you're a racist. . . if you've had a career in football and you're still uncomfortable around Black people? 

Anyway, screamer coaches will get away with less under emerging conditions, and that's a good thing. My daughter was a local high school sports star who stood up to two bully coaches during her four-year stint, and while I know that other kids' mileage could vary, that has stood her in incredibly good stead, including now as she begins to coach herself. Both of those people continue to respect her. 

 

Sopwith

May 9th, 2024 at 9:15 PM ^

Agreed. I was expecting something a little more... blatant. The accusations here are thin gruel at best, and come from players with a professional grudge. Not a particular Chip Kelly fan but I was hoping for something a little more substantive. 

I'm guessing many black former Chip Kelly players would probably stand up for him (or already have) but I don't live in the Twix-verse.

mGrowOld

May 9th, 2024 at 12:55 PM ^

Yikes.  

No clue if a word of that is true or not but damn, planting that seed (and you know just about every OSU player has seen or at least heard about this by now) is going to make things rather uncomfortable down there.

They may end up 15-0 next year but I'm telling you they are one early season stumble from having the whole thing explode spectacularly in their face.  Lots of gasoline on the ground with that roster and coaching staff, just needs one match.

Bo Harbaugh

May 10th, 2024 at 9:38 AM ^

Don’t worry Chuck.  Despite the Avengers roster , as OSU has had multiple times over the past 2 decades, they’ll break your heart once again.

Nobody underachieves in the biggest moments over the past 20 years quite like OSU. 

Recruit like Bama, achieve like Auburn.

They’ll choke again.  Not beating UGA with that O-line and qb play.  Congrats on all the 5* receivers though.

WoodleyIsBeast

May 9th, 2024 at 2:16 PM ^

I'm with you on that....but @Oregon and hosting Michigan are far from guaranteed wins for Osu. Maybe @PSU could be a bit of trouble for them too. Not to mention the Big Ten Championship Game and playoffs. I'd feel much more worried about them if they had Stroud or Fields. Their O-Line was a sieve in the Cotton Bowl as well. I'm not magically believing they will be amazing next fall.

ST3

May 9th, 2024 at 2:25 PM ^

If they make it to 15-0, I hope we make them 15-1 after the championship game. That would be epic.

Just a reminder, we’re in a new era now. 12 game regular season, conference championship game, 3 (or 4, if you are a 5-12 seed) game national championship playoff. That’s 16 games. I would have dropped the conf championship game, but that would mean choosing the players’ wellbeing over $$$.

OneEyedMooseSm…

May 10th, 2024 at 10:28 AM ^

I'm with you, Woodley.  We hear this stuff about them every year, but just going back to 2021 and 2022 when they had aliens at QB and WR, they are not nearly as good in 2024.  I'm not sure they are any better than they were in 2023, either.  We still have a killer defense and if we can get Cade-level of serviceability our of our QB then I like our chances in Columbus.