I Like Burgers

October 30th, 2013 at 3:58 PM ^

No one gets fired or asked to resign for attending an event where weed is smoked.  Any person that ever went to a concert would be elligible to be fired.  And hell, even if Pelini smoked weed, that's not something you get fired for without a bunch of other stuff preceeding it.


October 30th, 2013 at 4:03 PM ^

Um....different "alleged" issue is being rumored to have occured.  One that he previously "allegedly" had fallen prey to at Nebraska.



October 30th, 2013 at 4:40 PM ^

It depends on your definition of the word drug. Usually, people drug to refer to narcotics (heroin, meth, oxycontin, etc) as opposed to things like alcohol and tobacco. People who drink or smoke cigarettes don't consider that "doing drugs." My point is that weed is in the latter category.


October 30th, 2013 at 5:50 PM ^

You know that has a lot to do with only one of them being illegal, right? No one cares if you use either of them lightly, but if I had the choice between hiring a heavy pot smoker or a heavy drinker, I'd pick the smoker every time. Much less likely to affect your work, and if think most employers would agree with that, they just can't test you for alcohol.

NOLA Wolverine

October 30th, 2013 at 6:08 PM ^

No that part escaped me. Failing a drug test due to marijuanna use and losing a job oppurtunity is enough for me to hold it on a different level than caffeine and alcohol and I'm not alone on that. If you want to lump it together with alcohol because you enjoy weed then whatever, it's still a tangible difference. 

They definitely do care if you use marijuanna lightly. Companies pay to have potential employees hair tested for a reason. And I'm not sure what remote island this company is stuck on with two prospective employees with drug addictions, but yeah, no real company is going to hire either of those people if they can figure that circumstance out before hand. 


October 30th, 2013 at 6:27 PM ^

Places are increasingly (think hospitals) testing for nicotene and not hiring based on that positive test, citing rising insurance premiums as a major factor -- although some laws are on the books against this in certain states citing 'smokers' rights'. 

I guess the issue I take with this is let's say tomorrow Congress legalizes weed, your opinion changes? 

Leaving aside the caffeine issue, because that was more of a semantical debate I was having with Wolvin about how encompassing the term drug can be, I think without that legislation, you should be able to differntiate between the effects of alcohol on a person vs. alcohol and tobacco. 


October 30th, 2013 at 8:08 PM ^

I agree with goblue20111 that the big difference (not sure if it's tangible or if that's even a possible state for a difference) is legality.  If we woke up tomorrow morning and weed was legal, would you still think it's worse than alcohol?

Most companies' marijuana tests allow for a fairly significant amount of marijuana in your blood, but different than a test they use to probation, for example.  They're not looking the occasional user, they're looking for the total pothead, which I can understand.  

That said, most employers are more concerned with alchohol than they are with marijuana.  Outside of using it on the job (which would be an equally big problem with alcohol) there are few ways that marijuana can negatively affect your job performance.  Someone showing up hungover, however, is a very common problem for employers.  And with DUIs having harsher penalties, having an employee lose his ability to drive can be a deal breaker (like it is for me).

Outside of "is illegal" are there reasons you disagree? 

snarling wolverine

October 31st, 2013 at 11:23 AM ^

there are few ways that marijuana can negatively affect your job performance.

This isn't really true. Studies have shown that marijuana can have effects on a person's cognition, in areas like memory and attention, for several days afterwards.  It's not as blatantly obvious as drunkenness but the effects last longer.  It can take a few weeks for the negative effects to completely disappear.


October 30th, 2013 at 4:45 PM ^

 it's a tax issue. Most people cant grow enough tobacco to support a smokers habit, drinkers tend to be social even when you dont want them to be but anyone can grow 6 or more plants and smoke out all day. You can support you own habit without buying weed from a store and paying taxes. They could tax pipes or papers but come on how many weed smokers have smoked out of a coke can or a windex bottle


October 30th, 2013 at 5:58 PM ^

You make an excellent point. In addition, people act like you throw some seeds in the ground and kush comes out. Growing quality marijuana is A LOT of work and isn't cheap. It's much easier to grow good vegetables/produce than good marijuana, and I don't see the produce section disappearing out of grocery stores. People aren't going to start making the capital investments and commit the time to growing good marijuana just because it is legal. They will walk their soon-to-be-happy asses to the store and buy it like Americans do everything else (I am including myself in that statement).

Prince Lover

October 31st, 2013 at 2:14 AM ^

One night after working at Pizza Bobs, the crew was sitting in the back alley, enjoying the joint being passed around. All of a sudden we hear some guys as well as see some flashlights looking around. We thought for sure it was cops and got scared. Well, we scared the 3 guys coming into the back alley as well as they thought they'd be alone too. After realizing no one in either group were cops they asked if anyone objected if the dug up that plant. We had no idea what they were talking about, then they showed us; between Mr Spots and the restaurant next door, I believe it was some short lived italian place, there was a 3-4 foot plant growing right there for the whole world to see. We all passed by it several times a day and never noticed it. It just looked like a weed growing in an alley.