Black Monday Updates - Coaches Fired
As we all know, right now with Harbaugh situation and NFL, important to monitor which NFL teams fire their coaches today. Here is the list so far.
Fangio - Broncos
Zimmer - Vikings
Nagy - Bears
Flores - Dolphins
Thoughts? Stephen Ross wouldn’t take our coach would he? We know Bears are in play. Heard Vikings could be in play as well. Could be a long couple days seeing where this goes. Raiders win last night gets them in playoffs, so hiring Harbaugh now would be very odd even if they only got an interim coach now.
January 10th, 2022 at 9:46 AM ^
With pace out in Chicago that could make that more appealing.
January 10th, 2022 at 9:58 AM ^
has he been fired yet?
I have only seen Nagy being fired
edit - I see it now - both gone
January 10th, 2022 at 9:48 AM ^
*Bloody Monday. I’ve never seen it referenced as Black Monday.
January 10th, 2022 at 9:52 AM ^
I believe you have seen it referenced as black Monday.
January 10th, 2022 at 9:56 AM ^
In fact, here's an article from as far back as 2009 calling it Black Monday, in a way that implies it's a common phrase.
Bloody Monday, on the other hand, is something I don't think I've heard, or is at least much rarer than Black Monday.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:30 AM ^
I stand corrected. Must be a regional thing or something my dad used to joke about and it just stayed with me all these years.
either way, based on the volume of replies I’m clearly incorrect. My apologies.
January 10th, 2022 at 1:25 PM ^
Black Friday is when the available coaches go on sale.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:36 AM ^
although I've heard it as Black Monday more often.
January 10th, 2022 at 11:32 AM ^
Plus-1 for any Psych reference.
January 10th, 2022 at 11:21 AM ^
I thought it was Sunday.
Bloody Sunday.
January 10th, 2022 at 11:52 AM ^
Monday, Bloody Monday!
How long? How long can Joe Judge hang on. How long?
January 10th, 2022 at 1:05 PM ^
I can’t believe the news today. I can’t close my eyes and make it go away. And the battle’s just begun. There’s many lost, but tell me who has won?
January 10th, 2022 at 1:42 PM ^
Apparently everyone except Giants fans. However, I don't think there is any way their coach or their dopey GM survive the week.
January 10th, 2022 at 3:02 PM ^
It's a win for Joe Judge if the Giants don't do the smart thing and fire his incompetent ass.
January 10th, 2022 at 12:29 PM ^
I believe it's Monday, Monday ... can't trust that day...
January 10th, 2022 at 1:13 PM ^
No more!
January 10th, 2022 at 2:46 PM ^
Ikr. It’s just another manic Monday.
January 10th, 2022 at 9:53 AM ^
You got me thinking where I heard this or if it was right.
The NFL regular season comes to a close Sunday night, meaning Black Monday isn't far behind. Black Monday, the first Monday following the regular-season finale, is the day when many struggling NFL teams announce coaching changes or front-office shake-ups. By no means is a team required to wait until Black Monday
January 10th, 2022 at 10:00 AM ^
It does seem like a weird description when black Friday signifies good business results but whatever.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:18 AM ^
Black Friday is named as such because historically it happened to coincide with the time most brick and mortar retailers became profitable for the year, which is to say "in the black."
January 10th, 2022 at 10:35 AM ^
Yes and I started in accounting long enough ago to know that black signifies profit and red loss.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:43 AM ^
Black Thursday and Black Monday are associated with big stock market crashes. Lots of traders got fired. Suspect that is where it comes from
January 10th, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^
When Black Friday comes
I'll stand down by the door
And catch the grey men when they
Dive from the fourteenth floor
January 10th, 2022 at 10:24 AM ^
I had a similar discussion with the MGoGirlfriend years ago: How come Black Friday has a positive connotation while so many other terms with black (blackmail, blackball, black hat, etc.) are negative?
She 'splained that the term comes from the old bookkeeping habit of recording profits in black and liabilities in red. Thus, a company "in the black" is profitable.
Which is so obvious that it was embarrassing that I didn't know it. But she patted me on the head and told me I shouldn't worry my pretty little head about it. My only job is to be her arm candy.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:09 AM ^
Sunday Bloody Sunday?
January 10th, 2022 at 10:19 AM ^
It’s been called black Monday for years.
January 10th, 2022 at 11:08 AM ^
Why not both? Or a combo?
Bloody Black Monday
Black Bloody Monday
Monday, Bloody and Black
Black and Bloody Monday
Bloody and Black Monday
January 10th, 2022 at 1:09 PM ^
Yeah kind of a British thing. You’re a bloody genius!
January 10th, 2022 at 9:52 AM ^
Let’s hope the Raiders can pull off the win in Cincy. Then they really can’t fire their coach
January 10th, 2022 at 9:56 AM ^
Let's hope this doesn't last an entire week.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:38 AM ^
honestly - does it feel like anything is imminent? Seems like last year where everything was up in the air for weeks. We all desperately wanted information and updates, and the AD took their time with every detail... Every other school has moved quickly this offseason, despite the insane amount of changes. Michigan, does what it does. I get that they dont owe me anything, but right now the optics are "uncertainty" and that doesnt do recruits, players, coaches, fans any good..
January 10th, 2022 at 1:51 PM ^
TRVB - Last year turned out pretty great though, didn’t it!? And recruiting was fine despite all of the panic. It is what it is.
January 10th, 2022 at 3:29 PM ^
Last year everything was in limbo from the time of the last game (PSU on Thanksgiving, or the cancelled OSU game two weeks later) through NFL coaching carousel season in January. This year we were so focused on the playoff we skipped the December period of uncertainty. That's why it feels like it's moving faster this year, though it could still drag on if the Raiders make a playoff run and whether they keep the interim coach or not hangs in the air.
Also, last year everyone thought we were tanking the program and losing recruits because we weren't sure Harbaugh would stay, we didn't have a DC, etc. In the end it all worked out just fine.
January 10th, 2022 at 9:55 AM ^
None of these teams have QBs that make them good jobs. The Raiders are going to keep their coach IMO, he just took them to the playoffs! If they beat Cinci, that position will be filled for sure.
Flores is a great coach, would love to have him on a team I cheer for.
January 10th, 2022 at 1:23 PM ^
Agreed. Surprised to see Flores go. Positive direction after total rebuild with Tua not yet a star and not always available
January 10th, 2022 at 9:55 AM ^
The Raiders winning last night probably helps Michigan. It at least puts a stay of execution on the Raiders letting go of their interim guy and going guns-blazing for Harbaugh, and probably gives Michigan more time to get the right offer together, if they haven't already put it together (which, if they haven't by now, then they really are their own worst enemy).
I'm sure the Raiders are still putting an offer together behind the scenes just so its ready to go, but I can't imagine they would formally offer it to Harbaugh before they definitively know their season is over. Because what happens if they make the AFC Championship? What if they make the Super Bowl or, god forbid, win it? You really going to fire that guy now? Would be one of the biggest "Well this is awkward" moments in sports history.
As for Stephen Ross, I don't think he'd have any real qualms about hiring Harbaugh if he was interested. It would be a business decision, and the Miami Dolphins are his business. If he thought Harbaugh was the best man for the job and could lead Miami to a Super Bowl, I think he'd put an offer in to Harbaugh and wouldn't think twice about it. I think he'd rather have a ring than not hurt his alma mater's feelings. Deion just swiped the #1 overall player in America out from under his alma mater to go play at Jackson State. That should be a reminder to all of us that football is a business, even at the college level. They are all in the business of winning.
Bears will probably make a play as well since Harbaugh has history there, but I don't know if they already have another candidate in mind.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:13 AM ^
I wonder if the players have any say. The Raiders haven't been to the playoffs since 2016 yet here they are despite a shit ton of distractions (Gruden firing, Ruggs car crash, some overrated former OSU corner getting cut for issuing death threats etc). I have to imagine that Bisaccia's performance has endeared the players to him and that they would love to continue playing for him.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:49 AM ^
Good points to make, and I’m sure if the Raiders win a game or two in the playoffs, then they will get to have their say in the decision.
But if they flame out or just don’t look good next weekend, I’m guessing Davis is just going to go his own way.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:55 AM ^
"They are all in the business of winning." Are you sure about that?
It seems to me that NFL owners are in the business of making money. And they do that whether they win or lose.
Of course they're competitive, and want to win. But if the Patriots became a doormat, Kraft wouldn't sell.
January 10th, 2022 at 11:02 AM ^
Agreed. Look at the Lions and tell me with a straight face the Fords are in the business of winning.
January 10th, 2022 at 1:28 PM ^
Deion just swiped the #1 overall player in America out from under his alma mater to go play at Jackson State
Were we in on Travis Hunter? Thought it was FSU that got swiped
January 10th, 2022 at 9:55 AM ^
Just got an ESPN alert that the Dolphins will not target Harbaugh after firing Flores. So that's good news for us.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^
Ross just said he will not be the owner to take Harbaugh away from Michigan.
January 10th, 2022 at 9:57 AM ^
Pace out in Chicago too.
I'm hearing very Armstrong GM and Day HC in Chicago is looking pretty, pretty tempting.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:06 AM ^
Oh wait... I'm an insider!
Shakeup in Chitown. All of the talk around SOLDIERS has been what's going to happen to MN and RP. Well, today was the day they were handed a LM Pizza and their walking papers.
Word around the Naval Pier is that GSH (RIP btw) would be turning over in his grave if the CB's didn't take a long look at TA for GM and RD for HC.
Stay tuned.....
January 10th, 2022 at 10:13 AM ^
Ok now I got it.
January 10th, 2022 at 10:17 AM ^
LM pizza. Mmm!
Although I prefer P pizza
January 10th, 2022 at 10:35 AM ^
Pequod's?
Pats?
Art of? (Doesn't fit, just lived virtually nextdoor my freshman year of real life and it has a special place in my heart)