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Brian September 9th, 2019 at 1:21 PM

9/7/2019 – Michigan 24, Army 21 (2OT) – 2-0

Welcome, BPONE sufferers! A double-overtime game against Army has everyone back in the pit, and even in the cold light of day 48 hours later it's hard to argue. A week after it felt like Michigan had added a bunch to the arc read package that saved their running game last year, Michigan QBs kept once and Zach Charbonnet trundled towards a very 1982 line: 33 carries, 100 yards.

Back in 1995 the shotgun was understood as an offensive gambit limited to passing downs because attempting to run out of it sucked. It would continue to suck until Rich Rodriguez accidentally invented the zone read when his QB at Glenville State screwed up. Once the option made spreading the field a run-game advantage instead of a disadvantage… [gestures at college football].

Michigan took the portal back to 1995 this weekend, and now we're back to crabbing about Michigan's offensive system while Lloyd Carr's on the field. RIP Speed In Space, 8/31/2019-9/7/2019. Cue the spittle, and the condescending media columns about how spittle is unbecoming.

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In the aftermath Harbaugh was asked about the lack of reads from his quarterback and made some assertions that I hope are not true:

On Shea Patterson potentially being dinged up and not running on option plays

He ran a couple. He was better. He was able to work through what he had and felt 100 percent for the game.

The read was not there for the quarterback to pull it.

If this is a 100% Shea Patterson, Michigan isn't doing anything this year. And it probably isn't. Patterson's lone called run of the game went four yards; Patterson was not hit but dove forward onto the ground. There he stayed. Dylan McCaffrey came in for the next two plays. Patterson returned for OT, hitting a couple of short throws across the middle in Michigan's first drive before three consecutive bad misses in OT2.

That certainly feels like a QB who Michigan is attempting to protect, because as soon as they stop doing that he goes out of the game briefly and then airmails all his passes of any length. (The OT1 throws were inside the hashes; the OT2 throws were on the sideline.)

The frustrating thing is that Army's approach never got tested. Michigan's rock paper scissors wins in this game were close to nonexistent. Army swallowed a fourth and two play with two guys in the backfield. Patterson's lone zone read keep ate a corner blitz. Michigan ran out of ideas late and kept returning to a no-read power play. This wasn't a return to the sometimes clunky early Harbaugh days—those had tons of different run plays and regularly popped guys through big holes by misdirecting linebackers. This was a near-total abdication of the idea of coordinating a run game.

So, like, what the hell? Why did game two of Josh Gattis become a debacle on par with Let's Put Denard Under Center? If Patterson is hurt why isn't Dylan McCaffrey playing? If Army is messing with Michigan's reads in basic scrape exchange ways, why don't you have a plan for that?

Like the title says: no good answers.

There's a lot of people extrapolating from not enough data and deciding to jump out of a plane; it's too early for that, but getting approximately zero coordinator wins in a tight game against Army while both quarterbacks get their offseason hype blown up is cause for concern.

Football's weird and Michigan has a bye week to get healthy and figure some things out. They'll have to.

[After THE JUMP: slomka, slomka, slomka, egg, and slomka]

AWARDS

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Hutchinson is in there somewhere [Campredon]

Known Friends And Trusted Agents Of The Week

you're the man now, dog

-2535ac8789d1b4991f1c37dee-a502-44d9#1 Aidan Hutchinson. TFL that put Army in third and eleven was all him, and he finished the sack on the next play. Also credited with the forced fumble that Metellus coulda shoulda scored on.

#2 Zach Charbonnet. Lack of yardage on ground even more disturbing because Charbonnet was seemingly maximizing his carries. He was able to regap in the backfield a few times like a much lighter guy. Also did not get Patterson killed.

#3 Josh Uche. A source of 1 and 0 yard plays either by getting off blocks and tackling himself or forcing things back inside on option plays.

Honorable mention: Ronnie Bell was half of the Michigan passing offense but gets knocked down into this section because his punt returns were an adventure. Lavert Hill made interception this week.  Josh Metellus and Brad Hawkins didn't screw anything up, which is hard to do as a safety against this offense.

KFaTAotW Standings

NOTE: New scoring! HM: 1 point. #3: 3 points. #2: 5 points. #1: 8 points. Split winners awarded points at the sole discretion of a pygmy marmoset named Luke.

10: Zach Charbonnet (#2 MTSU, #2 Army)
8: Ambry Thomas (#1 MTSU), Aidan Hutchinson(#1 Army)
6: Josh Uche (#3 MTSU, #3 Army)
1: Will Hart (HM MTSU), Jordan Glasgow (HM MTSU), Josh Ross (HM, MTSU), Sean McKeon (HM, MTSU), Shea Patterson (HM, MTSU), Ronnie Bell (HM Army), Josh Metellus (HM Army), Brad Hawkins (HM Army), Lavert Hill (HM Army).

Who's Got It Better Than Us(?) Of The Week

Kwity Paye, Aidan Hutchinson, Carlo Kemp, and Josh Uche combine to sack Army's QB and recover it on the final play of the game.

 

Honorable mention: Lavert Hill's INT prevents a 21-7 Army lead. Metellus grabs a fumble. Hutchinson sets up the final play with Michigan's first TFL in OT2.

X4OROG3KOKTIFUY4YU4SNSLDIY_thumbMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Ben VanSumeren puts Michigan's third fumble of the game on the deck, condemning Michigan to a halftime deficit.

Honorable mention: Patterson's first fumble. Patterson's second fumble, which was Christian Turner busting a blitz pickup and not Patterson's fault. Josh Metellus's fumble recovery TD getting called back erroneously. That not being reviewable. Most offensive plays?

OFFENSE

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more targets [Campredon]

Throw the ball to Collins. Or Black. Anybody! The most frustrating part of Patterson's game right now is his refusal to punt the ball up to his giant leapy guys in jump ball situations. He did it once in this game, got nowhere near Collins, and still got a PI call. That should be the default response to pressure, or going through a read or two and not seeing anything particularly amazing.

Instead he's been moving up in the pocket and taking sacks, or scrambling for not much. Collins came down with two fade TDs against OSU last year. Are any of these Lilliputians seriously going to check him? Why does Collins come out of the game in critical situations and why doesn't he have a butt-ton of targets?

Two games in and Collins has one more catch than Charbonnet. He's on pace for a 33-catch year. That's without DPJ playing. What are we doing?

Speed of thought. The first fumble was a missed pickup but also a guy that Patterson saw coming while he had an open hot route drag in front of his face. Decisions were an issue for Patterson last year, and sometimes in the opener, and I feel like there are a number of quarterbacks who get that ball out instead of taking a sack. There's been a whole lot of "throw the ball!" going through my mind in the early going. It's rare that Patterson gets out a quick rhythm throw.

Charbonnet, though. The silver lining in the suck that was Michigan's ground game: Charbonnet did maximize his yards, and successfully picked through a lot of trash to do so. He demonstrated vision and an ability to re-gap that backs his size do not often have. Two games into his career and he's the safety blanket Michigan turned to after Turner got Patterson strip-sacked, and a 33-carry bell-cow after VanSumeren put the ball on the ground.

He's going to be outstanding if Michigan puts together offensive gameplans that aren't comprehensively crushed.

Hayes: stock down a bit. He got spun through easily on the Collins PI, forcing the quick throw that was way off. Michigan was mostly right-handed on the ground; with Runyan on the field they were mostly left-handed a year ago. Hayes isn't going to Wally Pipp Runyan.

On Jon Runyan Jr.’s injury

Jon was just really on the verge of being ready to play. He could have played, but there was … he looked good in practice, but we just felt like we would give him another week to make sure this isn’t something that’s a season ongoing problem.

On if he’ll start at Wisconsin over Ryan Hayes

Can I say that now? Most likely.

His two starts have been encouraging overall, but not enough to displace a returning All Big Ten tackle even if that tackle has a hard cap on his pass protection.

A foot away from a monster day. Ronnie Bell had a ton of catches in this game and one diving attempt at a wheel route that would have been a touchdown if he was able to catch it in stride. Bell was headed for a Poor Damn Ronnie Bell designation, and then he caught eight balls.

Bell's route on that wheel was very nice; he dusted the DB with an out move that the DB bit on and then was gone.

Short yardage problems. I preferred Michigan giving the ball to Ben Mason on dives, which IIRC worked every time last year except for one missed assignment by Runyan, to whatever Michigan's doing right now. It's impossible to get hammered in the backfield like Michigan did when you're running the simplest play in football behind Ruiz and Onwenu. TTB:

When any 5-man run scheme is involved, you’re outnumbered in the run game up front. Michigan can block 5 with the line and read another with the QB, but bringing a 7th guy into the box makes Michigan vulnerable to the SAM linebacker here bending off the edge unblocked. Unless Shea Patterson throws the ball quickly to the X receiver or gets it out to the trips side with a bubble or key screen, Michigan is going to struggle mightily to run the ball in this type of set against an aggressive defense.

The one area where I wanted Michigan to continue manballing without apology is also a tactical issue now. Cumong.

DEFENSE

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a third of Marc-Gregor's pictures are some variant of this [Campredon]

In a fundamental sense, who cares? Nothing about this defensive performance matters at all going forward. Michigan faced Army, a team that does Army things against everyone from Colgate to the Pittsburgh Steelers. The A-back got 29 carries. The game was watching an endless procession of thumps up the middle leavened by exactly five passes.

A couple of guys did pop out, at least. Anyway.

Approach. Michigan was in a 3-3-5 almost the whole game; the box was usually six players with a three-man safety level. This was close-ish to what they did against Air Force under Brown a couple of years ago. Michigan did blitz frequently, and in the second half they slid Hutchinson inside and had Uche on the LOS quite a bit.

This may have invited the frequent Slomka-ing but Michigan was successful in preventing outside runs. Army had the one chunk run on their first touchdown drive and nothing else that went over ten yards. Was that a good strategy? A bad strategy? I don't know. I don't know what the alternatives were.

Army never went on one of their trademark 19-play marches, but that was in part because Michigan's issues with holding on to the ball set them up with short fields. It's possible Michigan's strategy feels a lot better if Army's TD drives don't start on the Michigan 40 and Army 40 and they end before the endzone.

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Uche: all the time. Uche did get the vast majority of snaps for the first time in his career—and against a team that does almost nothing but run. He popped out on a few different plays where he was able to stack and shed OL to get thwacks in at the line of scrimmage. Final judgement is withheld until I can get through the UFR, and Army blockers aren't Wisconsin blockers. But, yeah, man, he's gotta play.

Also: Hutchinson. Michigan's DL all spent turns getting shoved downfield on dive plays in ways I don't know if I'm going to be able to judge. I caught one particular fourth-down dive on which Hutchinson folded inside of Uche and got shoved back because Michigan's three-man line allowed Army a double. But Army's double was bizarre, consisting of one guy engaging Hutchinson while a second Bush pushed the first guy from behind. How does one grade that? I guess I'll find out.

Hutchinson suffered his share of cut blocks and deposits downfield but also came up with the play of the game when he got a bonafide tackle for loss—excuse me, that doesn't do it justice. Hutchinson came up with a

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In the second overtime. He did this by (deliberately?) taking a false step on the snap, convincing a guard that he was not a threat, and then redirecting fast enough through the gap left by a pulling OL that he was able to turn second and eight into third and eleven.

Paye, Hutchinson, and Kemp then combined to force the fumble on the ensuing play. Their kicker had zero track record other than a miss from 50 at the end of regulation but I might have tried to get 6-8 yards and rolled those dice instead of throwing in an obvious situation to, but I haven't seen practice.

Holding. It wasn't until Sunday that I found out the holding call on Army's second TD drive was on Hill and not Hudson. Hill grabbed a guy in the way that DBs often do and got unlucky when he stumbled. Hudson flat out got beat and had to grab his guy around the waist to deal with it, and then his dude was the target. Hill's issue falls under the rubbin's racin' rubric to me, but I can't complain because a holding call was justice on that play.

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Up and down day for Hudson [Campredon]

Other Hudson issues. The single long Army run saw Hudson lose leverage and get locked inside by a blocker after he hesitated. Michigan safeties in general had a tough time getting off blocks when Army did venture outside. Offsetting the problems: it was Hudson's thunderous edge blitz that forced Hill's game-saving interception. He had a blocker, even.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Where art thou, Peppers? I have some sympathy for Ronnie Bell's punt return follies in this game because Army's first punt went 30 yards in the air, and then the second one went 45 yards to a sideline. Still: failing to field three punts and fumbling the one you do field is less than ideal. Hopefully Peoples-Jones is back for Wisconsin and we can forget the first two games of punt returns ever happened.

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Man alone. Michigan's fake punt was a check after Army left Dax Hill by himself. Useful to have a linebacker-sized upback who was a high school QB. Makes you wonder if that was a specific thing Michigan saw about Army or a general policy.

Meanwhile, I was momentarily terrified because Hill had to dodge a guy to pick up the first down. Michigan had just gotten a false start penalty, and someone actually asked him whether that was intentional to set up the fake. Harbaugh said no, if you were wondering.

Kickoffs: interesting? Giles Jackson busted a kick return out to Army territory before a penalty brought it back. He almost had another long jaunt before being chopped down at the 30. He looks like he might be the rare difference-maker as a kick returner.

One negative on his day: he got a jet sweep that was blocked for a chunk of yards. Like Michigan always seems to, he ran outside of a kickout block and set most of those yards on fire. If you see your teammate's back please do not bounce to the sideline. It is bizarre how frequent this is. Ben VanSumeren did it in the opener. When your 240-pound not-a-fullback guy is bouncing I start to suspect brain worms.

Blindside block: I thought we fixed this. Last year Michigan special teams did a good job of doing the hands-up I'm-not-touching-you-you're-touching-me thing on blindside blocks. They were legal last year but a frequent source of targeting calls and blocking-in-the-back penalties. Michael Barrett didn't execute this on the long Jackson return

MISCELLANEOUS

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bored [Campredon]

Commercials. We got two instances of the commercial-kickoff-commercial sequence once reserved for NFL games, and every single timeout that wasn't right at the end of a half went to a full media timeout. The athletic department has gone to a full-on distraction blitz for the great piles of commercial time, and even though they have an excellent idea of how many breaks are in a game they ran out of stuff to use at the beginning of the fourth quarter. In a game against Army.

Attendance is flagging because going to games is a worse experience. It's not hard.

The approach down the stretch. I liked what Michigan was doing on their final drive, which was poised on a knife edge because of Army's general Army-ness. Michigan has the advantage when there are two minutes on the clock, so a leisurely approach until you've reached the stage where you can move the ball quickly while Army cannot was good. And it paid off: even after the failed fourth down attempt all Army could manage with the time they had was a 50-yard FGA.

Going for it. Yeah, go for it. The second decision is unimpeachable, IMO, for the reasons I mentioned in the above bullet point. If you punt, definite overtime. If you get it you've got the ball on the Army 40 with two minutes left. If you fail, Army doesn't have much time to do anything with it.

It is easier to complain about going for it from the Army 19 with ten minutes left, but I didn't like the prospect of Michigan going up three and then seeing 19 consecutive Slomka dives with the last in the endzone.

To be clear, I also advocate getting it when you go for it. In favor there.

HERE

All about obliques:

The Function of the Oblique

Because of the way the obliques run, they are able to aid in a lot of motions, such as trunk flexion and sidebending.  However, the primary role here is rotation.   When the trunk rotates, you will find that your two sets of obliques work together.  An example would be when you rotate to the left, your right side external oblique and left side internal oblique work together to create this motion.

Why is this important in athletes?  Well for throwers, such as baseball pitchers and football quarterbacks, rotation is critical.  Try and throw the ball without rotating your body at all, and you will find that not only does it not go far, but you look like an idiot.

Best and Worst:

Worst: Scoreboard Gazing

What drove me crazy this weekend, maybe more than even this game, was how often people would look at, say, Maryland destroying Syracuse or MSU suddenly discovering an offense against Western and perilously over-read into early-season results. Yes, Ohio State beat up on Cincinnati and, because the world isn't fair, Fields will likely be yet another superstar for them. Wisconsin looks to be back to their usual ways, smashing USF and CMU by an aggregate score of 110-0. A week after MSU could barely crack 300 yards against a probably-bad Tulsa team (while giving up only 80 total yards), MSU scored 51 points with 582 yards of total offense, including 251 yards on the ground. My guess is MSU's offense is somewhere in between those two marks, and they'll get a big test next week when Arizona State shows up. Penn State struggled with Buffalo for a half and then turned a couple of breaks into a blowout, and more generally have outscored their two opponents 124-20. As a conference, there are 6 teams averaging 40+ points per game thus far, which ties the Big 12 for the lead in that completely arbitrary category. Do I think that holds true for the rest of the year? Probably not, but a lot of teams are eating their Wheaties thus far into the season.

Looking at playcalls:

Michigan got noticeably more conservative in the second half. I would suggest that things may go further: There appears to be a significant change after the strip-sack in drive three, Michigan's second turnover. On the subsequent drive (drive four) Michigan runs 5 out of its 6 plays, including every first down. The following drive was a "2 minute" drive that included a surprising amount of running. Michigan then produced the startling second half play selection that is recorded above.

Prior to the second lost fumble, Michigan's offense was actually quite diverse. There was a very close balance between running and passing, including on first down, there was lots of yardage gained, and the second drive produced a touchdown. The 2-minute drill balances the numbers somewhat, but even then, Michigan ran an unusual number of times for a 2-minute offense.

ELSEWHERE

Highlights:

Don't schedule service academies, the stat:

Since 1995, the three FBS military academies — Air Force, Army, and Navy — are a combined 41-11-1 against the spread* as underdogs of more than three touchdowns (21.5 points or more), according to Odds Shark’s database.

Most recently, Army took 29-point favorite Oklahoma and 22-point favorite Michigan to overtime in consecutive years, while 2018 Navy covered against Notre Dame and UCF. The popular advanced analytics agreed with the big spreads before kickoff ... and yet the trend held steady.

If you took the military underdog to cover all 53 of those spreads, you’d have beaten Vegas a hilarious 78.8% of the time. It’s hard to imagine there’s a much stronger trend with historical backing like this one. Just for reference, beating the sports book a mere 55 percent of the time would be considered really, really excellent.

Hoover Street Rag:

I am not saying any of us is a prophet, but someone in the Michigan fan base saw the Army/Oklahoma game as it played out last year on that one guy's Periscope stream and immediately asked the question "Wait, why did we schedule in 2019 Army again?"  Especially since Army was supposed to be playing Northwestern today.  Keeping in mind that Army had won 12 games in four years prior to 2015 when this game was announced, it wasn't an overly terrible idea, it's just that Jeff Monken hadn't had time to go full wizard on his team.  But never schedule a service academy.  We're done with this.  Or at least, we should be.

Lorenz:

Two wide open receivers missed (Bell deep, Collins in OT) and a dropped ball; Michigan gave away three easy touchdowns in the passing game. What concerned me most about Patterson is that he was only able to pick Army apart when he had a ton of time to throw the ball. He made a couple of improv plays out of the pocket, but there was very little as far as quick, crisp throws to get the ball in the hands of their playmakers. He didn't look decisive throughout the game and was totally careless with the ball on his first fumble. Call it what it was: a disappointing performance.

Sap's Decals:

OFFENSIVE CHAMPION – For the second straight week I’m going with Zach Charbonnet. Great running backs typically see three things when they run: the hole, the 1st down sticks and the end zone. It’s becoming obvious that 24 has the vision to see all three. Last week it was great pass-pro, this week it is the durability to carry the ball 33 times for 100 yards and three touchdowns. Dude’s just getting started and he already looks so comfortable in this offense.

MGoFish. Maize and Go Blue. Maize and Blue Nation. Adam Rittenberg.

Comments

MGoBlue96

September 9th, 2019 at 2:16 PM ^

I truly feel like Harbaugh and the program in general are stuck in a cycle of trying to do things the Bo way.  The Bo way says we are just going to be stronger and tougher than the other team on short yardage regardless of the numbers disadvantage. It also has the mantra that we are going to impose our will on the other team versus reacting to what the opponent is actually doing. I really feel like the core issue under Harbaugh is the unwillingness to take the easy thing/the thing the defense is giving you. Everything has to be so difficult for no reason. The offensive philosophy is still stuck in the past in some ways regardless of what new stuff is added to the offense.

When your facing a defense overmatched athletically there is no possible way they can take away everything. Army made the decision that they were going to try and not get killed at the line by committing extra bodies and to limit shots downfield. That means there is other stuff there. So that means either the coaches knew that and were not reacting to what Army was doing because they were trying to impose their will or they didn't know the right counters to use. Either possibility is not good.

Air-Ron

September 9th, 2019 at 2:13 PM ^

I haven't been able to watch the last two games.  It sounds like that's actually a win for me...

But this from the "epic double bird" section: 

Patterson's first fumble. Patterson's second fumble, which was Christian Turner busting a blitz pickup and not Patterson's fault. Josh Metellus's fumble recovery TD getting called back erroneously. That not being reviewable. 

What the heck is going on?  Should I just skip football this year?  Do I just tell people we're a basketball school?  

On the plus side, my OU loving co-workers and neighbors have sympathy for me right now, as their heisman trophy winner had a similar result against army last year too.

LKLIII

September 9th, 2019 at 7:16 PM ^

I think this is the most likely explanation. 

Or—related—Patterson is hurt & because the success of the new offense REQUIRES a healthy & reasonably mobile QB, they are being hyper cautious with a healthy McCaffrey since right now he’s the only viable QB at 100%. 

If we get to major opponents and/or Shea gets close to 100% before that & we STILL don’t open it up & have them do QB keepers, then we are probably screwed.

But not before then. 

KBLOW

September 9th, 2019 at 2:19 PM ^

Not giving MCaff a full series AND a full playbook to use while in, mystifies me. I agree with the team chemistry issues and "learnin' how to fight" mindset, yet being willing to lose that game to prove those points is not only plain stupid, it doesn't give the team any game speed practice on chucking it deep to our WRs.

Hail-Storm

September 9th, 2019 at 2:19 PM ^

No mention from Brian, but I wanted a shout out to Glasgow.  He showed up a lot in this game as a sure tackler.  There was a lot of times he met the ball carrier and restricted any extra yards by himself.  Can't imagine what this last decade would look like without those three brothers.

MGoStrength

September 9th, 2019 at 2:20 PM ^

Why of why is it so hard to recruit and develop a good QB?  Since JH has arrived we've had three 4-stars (Peters, McCaffrey, & Milton) and a 5-star (Patterson), none of which are freshman, and none of them show much development.

Autostocks

September 9th, 2019 at 3:11 PM ^

This is unfair.  What have you seen of MCaffrey and Milton to know whether they've developed or not?  Peters has actually had a great start for Illinois.  And everyone was marveling at the job Harbaugh did with Rudock and Speight, who made it to the NFL as former 3-stars.  I think you actually have a sample of one with Patterson.

MGoStrength

September 9th, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^

What have you seen of MCaffrey and Milton to know whether they've developed or not? 

Nothing, that's the point.  They haven't over taken a Patterson QB that isn't do anything special.

Peters has actually had a great start for Illinois.

He couldn't do anything against S. Carolina nor beat out Patterson.  I doubt you'd say he's living up to his recruiting profile of being a top 100 player.

And everyone was marveling at the job Harbaugh did with Rudock and Speight, who made it to the NFL as former 3-stars. 

Speight had one decent year, then got off to a bad start in his sophomore year prior to getting injured.  But, what did he do against the better defenses?...he threw INTs against OSU, Iowa, Wiscy, & MSU.  Ruddock has probably been the best so far, but part of question I posed was recruit and develop one...not just poach one.

This is unfair. 

What wording would you prefer to use?  I'm not saying they're terrible, although JOK was and Peters taking so long to displace him is a little bit of a criticism there.  But, by and large they are merely OK.  For a team that regularly gets ranked in the top 10 and recruits in the top 10, we should have a top 10 QB.  And, we can't seem to get much better than slightly above average QB play.  We are never going to win a B1G championship without better QB play.  It's too important of a position.  Meanwhile, OSU has a brand new staff, brand new starting QB, and is only a RS freshman and he lit it up last week.  

MGlobules

September 9th, 2019 at 2:21 PM ^

No good answers, but some tentative deductions:

1. Give us the points off of the Metellus pickup or any of the three fumbles and this is kind of a yawner, whether people with no life and very small parts want to torture themselves and others or not. It may be old-fashioned but it's still okay to shake your head, laugh, and call it a memorable game/victory, as your less self-entitled ancestors would have done.

2. If Shea is injured and going to be okay for Wisconsin, the rest of the game kind of follows a sane coaching trajectory IF we accept the implication that Dylan is not, in the coach's view, up to a lot as a passer and/or ready.

3. Defensive job was laudable whether it was Army or not.

Couple more thoughts:

Harbaugh trying to belittle Baumgardner was weak sauce. That's why you get paid those big bucks, Jim. The correlate to this is that we deserve a straight answer about whether Jim made the decision to go into a shell and who was calling second-half plays.

OTOH, just keeping cool and professing to be happy with the win may be exactly what the team itself needs, rather than spending a lot of time being defensive or combative.

I guess some kind of cold calculus has been made that the hits are worth it, but the gameday environment here now seems toxic beyond fixing. A lot of that crap just never should have made it to the board.

 

 

DaftPunk

September 9th, 2019 at 2:22 PM ^

Blame the long TV timeouts on Fox Sports.  Last year when we had a game on one of the other networks, I was startled when we went through several possessions without a commercial. FS also sucks for not displaying the play clock until it's down to 10 seconds.

On the positive side, we got the student section to not yell "You suck,bitch!" when the band plays Temptation after a third down stop, mostly by not playing Temptation on third down stops.  We'll se what happens with Rutger.

Alton

September 9th, 2019 at 2:32 PM ^

The number of TV timeouts per quarter (4) hasn't changed in about a decade.

The length of the TV timeouts has increased from 90 seconds about 20 years ago to now 150-165 seconds.  The quarter breaks Saturday were actually 225 seconds--almost 4 minutes!  That's an extra 2 minutes of down time per game just for the quarter breaks compared to last season.

A specific issue on Saturday is that the commercial break timing is left to an "expert" in the director's booth.  They have to take into account the probability of getting all 4 breaks in during each quarter.  With Army, they need to assume that any possession can last 7 minutes or more, and so each quarter ended up being front-loaded with commercials.

A discussion needs to take place about both the length and the number of commercial breaks, but that discussion in the end is going to come down to a decision made by people who only care about money--people whose salary depends on the amount of money TV stations are willing to pay.  

bluebyyou

September 9th, 2019 at 2:28 PM ^

Brian's comments on the media timeouts are spot on.  This week's timeouts were longer than game 1 and seemed more frequent.  They were typically about 2:35 and close to four minutes between quarters. They are making the stadium experience almost unwatchable (at least at home, you can switch to another game for almost three minutes.)  The folks putting on the "filler" show ran out of things to do.

DualThreat

September 9th, 2019 at 2:51 PM ^

Yeah, I do this for every Michigan game now:

Record the game.  Start watching the recording when the actual game is just past halftime.  Fast forward all commercials.  Catch up to live about midway through the 4th quarter.

The only restraint you need is to not check the score or, in general, look at media for an hour and a half.  Spend that hour and a half on other things in life other than commercials!  Totally worth it in my mind.

Hail-Storm

September 9th, 2019 at 3:56 PM ^

By necessity I need to watch games on delay (Recorded) and my tv now knows what the commercials are and when the actual show comes back on so automatically starts the player when the game is back on.  Only time I need to fast forward is through the half time show where they don't give much feedback.

When at games I'd actually not mind having a little less filler for every second.  Maybe have some time where there is nothing for a minute during a tv timeout. That way they can spread out their stuff over the game and people have a chance to chat or the students get to come up with something creative to fill the time.

blueday

September 9th, 2019 at 4:02 PM ^

The stadium experience is unbearable due to the timeouts. Addionally, what is up with the camera angles on the big screen?  If you needed to watch live due to seat location, the camera visual is useless. Unwatchable. Throw in the Harbaugh factor and staying home is feeling like the smart move.

bronxblue

September 9th, 2019 at 2:30 PM ^

I don't know why people keep saying Patterson's throw to Black in the second OT was bad.  I mean, here's the throw.

Yes, Black had to stretch a bit but that's a ball you expect your WR to catch.  He completes that Michigan is inside the 15 with a first down.  And on replay, that last throw felt like a communication, as if Patterson thought Black was coming back more and he didn't.  It wasn't a good pass in the sense that it was behind the first down marker, but at least from the view given in the video it didn't look like it sailed on him; he threw it where he was aiming.  The first pass way off and bad, but...that happens.  

I think Patterson isn't playing great and some balls absolutely sailed on him, particularly to Eubanks.  I wouldn't be remotely surprised if he was hurt.  But sometimes I feel like this groupthink happens where the guy he threw some darts in the 4th quarter and the first OT on third down suddenly is a "mess" because of a bad series.  Patterson should come in for blame with the first fumble and sorta the second (though that blitz pickup was awful), and he did miss a couple of reads and easy throws.  But I'm interested to see how he actually grades out in UFR throwing the ball because it doesn't seem nearly as bad as the response has been.

bronxblue

September 9th, 2019 at 3:03 PM ^

Like I said, he had to stretch a bit.  It also hit him directly in the hands and he wasn't fully extended.  He threw the ball to where his receiver could catch it, and the whole "throw it to our tall guys where the corners can't hit it" necessitates, at times, getting the ball up a bit.  And he threw it leading him; maybe Black didn't get out of his route on time?

That should have been a catch.  And Black already dropped another sure-fire TD on Michigan's first drive that hit him directly on the hands near his chest-to-eye level.  So let's stop acting like it was a foregone conclusion.

I don't blame college guys for making mistakes; playing football is really hard, and with a swirling wind balls can get away from you.  But all this shitting on Patterson for a bad game seems to ignore the fact that Michigan's WRs have dropped a lot of balls this year, moreso than last year it feels like.  Maybe McElwain was doing something right with the receivers last year that was lost this one, but far too often people blame the guy throwing the ball for an incompletion when it's at least as much due to the guy on the receiving end.

bronxblue

September 10th, 2019 at 11:23 AM ^

It wasn't the best pass he could have thrown, but this was earlier in the game and Black did the same thing again with a ball that hit him in the hands.

Again, I'm not ragging on anyone here. It was a little windy and those balls could have been thrown a bit better. But if these WRs are supposed to be NFL first-rounders like I keep being told, and you're supposed to just throw it up and they'll bring it down, they have to be able to catch balls like that. They just sorta have to. And the near-constant refrain that the QB is always at fault in some way is getting tiring.

Hail-Storm

September 9th, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^

I think Black had a bad game.  He missed stuff I didn't see him miss last year.  I also think Shae was late and off a lot.  I only remember a couple really good throws by him.  I really liked his throw across the field to Bell that he hit in stride.  It felt like Michigan was missing a slant game to allow Patterson to have short throws across the middle.  I'm probably over simplifying though and missing a lot of complexity.

Shae was off.  Over the last few games he has missed short passes with swing passes to the running backs or jet sweeps and on screen passes.  He also has missed badly on guys wide open and made some misreads on throwing into some coverage. 

Rudock had a slow start to his senior year, so there is time to turn it around. I am just having a hard time seeing it with Shae right now. 

Ball security and reads on the read option also leave much to be desired.  If Dylan can throw in addition to his read option, I'd love to see him step up.  I just haven't seen enough of him throwing to get an idea of his passing and ability to read the defense.  Hoping by Wisconsin the offense shows some life. 

antonio_sass

September 9th, 2019 at 4:16 PM ^

this particular sequence also speaks well of the scheme. 

the play before on 1st down, Collins is wide open. Shea needs to throw it a touch sooner. Also Eubanks is silly open heading towards sideline. 

2nd down was also execution, not scheme. open guys, relatively quick passes. 

let's do more of this thing where guys are wide open. 

UMgradMSUdad

September 9th, 2019 at 2:37 PM ^

Attendance is flagging because going to games is a worse experience. It's not hard.

I don't live any where near Michigan, so haven't been to a Michigan home game in years, but I have been to other college games closer to home.  I'm not sure I'm willing to invest the time and money again, though.  The traffic, the walking, the standing in line, the expense for tickets and parking--all that I understand and am not too bothered by.  But the in-stadium experience has gotten to be a huge annoyance.  Too many long gaps between actual football is the worst. It's about like going to a play, and instead of one intermission in the middle, they've added a dozen more, without enough time to get out of your seat and do anything.

 

BahamaMama

September 9th, 2019 at 5:30 PM ^

Totally agree. Have been part of a group that has tailgated together for close to 30 years. After this season there are 16 of us giving up our tickets. Time, money and game day experience has really started to suck. We will get together next season at each other’s house and enjoy the game that way.

dragonchild

September 9th, 2019 at 2:39 PM ^

If we look at this game in a bubble, I can wrap my brain around the in-game decisions.  An old military mantra is make the enemy fight on your terms and in this sense Army was both lucky and brilliant.  Shea's kryptonite is reading coverages, and whatever they were doing, it was befuddling him.  The run game had a bad case of fumblitis against an opponent that thrives on high-variance events by running an extremely low-variance offense.  The defense was doing a good job containing the triple option, so the second half was all about simplifying things to stupefying extremes and going right into the trenches where Army wanted them.  It worked. . . barely.

The reason for BPONE is that we've seen this all before and the idea that Michigan put away some bag of Fischian tricks to pull back out for future games had always turned out to be a mirage.  We don't have proof yet that that's the case here, but I did warn in my Black Preview of Negative Expectations that Gattis is a rookie play-caller whose track record in tough games was a blank slate, and Shea is mentally who he is at this point.  That diary was half intended to be snark but only in the sense that I found all worst-case scenarios unfolding to be unlikely (and to be fair, the CB and RB situations are much better than projected).

CityOfKlompton

September 9th, 2019 at 2:42 PM ^

Short yardage problems. I preferred Michigan giving the ball to Ben Mason on dives, which IIRC worked every time last year except for one missed assignment by Runyan, to whatever Michigan's doing right now. It's impossible to get hammered in the backfield like Michigan did when you're running the simplest play in football behind Ruiz and Onwenu...The one area where I wanted Michigan to continue manballing without apology is also a tactical issue now. Cumong.

I love the Ben Mason manball fun, but I really don't understand why we keep going with this misconception that it has been so successful for Michigan. This team ranked 74th(!!!) out of 126 in Power Success Rating (percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown) last season. A cool eight spots ahead of Michigan State, and we know how well that went for them last year...

Simply put, it may seem fun, but the stats back up the fact MICHIGAN HAS NOT BEEN GOOD AT THIS!!!!!!!!

bronxblue

September 9th, 2019 at 2:52 PM ^

I mean, off the top of my head he was stopped twice on the same drive against Florida with a yard to go.  It's weird to have this professed love for innovative offenses and analytics and yet also have this blindspot where throwing a guy in short yardage is assumed to always work despite evidence it isn't.  I mean, teams like Baylor, Boise St., Penn State, Purdue, a lot of teams all run offenses closer to the one Gattis wants and were more successful rushing on short yardage last year.

I've said this already a couple of times but this offense has easy ways to convert in short yardage.  They just need to actually run those plays and not throw a freshman at the line with a 4-yard head start.

imafreak1

September 9th, 2019 at 3:39 PM ^

Because I am an obsessive psycho, I just reviewed every 4th down try by Michigan from 2018. This idea that Michigan routinely jammed it down teams throats on 4th and 2, promulgated by the announcers, is false. The idea that Mason got 4th and short every time is false. The idea that they gave it to Mason most of the time on 4th and short is false. None of this is reflected by the stats which are as follows.

Michigan was 9/19 on 4th down.

They only attempted 4th and 2 four times all season. They were 3/4 with runs by Higdon, Patterson, and Mason. Their unsuccessful attempt was a pass.

They gave the ball to Mason on 4th down four times. 3 of them were 4th and one and he only converted 1 of those. He also converted a 4th and 2. He was 2/4 on 4th down.

Higdon was 3/4 on 4th and 1 and 1/1 on 4th and 2.

Evans was 2/2 on 4th and 1.

4th and 2 was not something Michigan even tried very much last season. Provided you have a varied play selection, 4th and short should be efficient regardless of your formation. The problem becomes when you line up and basically point directly where you are running and then expect to make it. I liked the decision to go on both 4th and 2. I would prefer to see more variability in the play calling.

bronxblue

September 9th, 2019 at 2:44 PM ^

I'll also add, and it feels weird defending Patterson so much because I legitimately thought he had a mediocre game, but he had multiple balls on line that were either dropped (Bell and Black definitely had balls they should have caught) or called for PIs, which don't show up on the stats but were good throws that probably could have been caught had they, you know, been interfered with.  And the "throw it up to the tall guys" doesn't work when, say, one of those tall guys dropped multiple balls that hit him in the hands.  

It's just - I don't understand how "you can't really take much away from this Army game because playing Army makes no sense" and "the world is falling apart because Michigan played a weird game against Army" square with each other.