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Brian September 9th, 2019 at 1:21 PM

9/7/2019 – Michigan 24, Army 21 (2OT) – 2-0

Welcome, BPONE sufferers! A double-overtime game against Army has everyone back in the pit, and even in the cold light of day 48 hours later it's hard to argue. A week after it felt like Michigan had added a bunch to the arc read package that saved their running game last year, Michigan QBs kept once and Zach Charbonnet trundled towards a very 1982 line: 33 carries, 100 yards.

Back in 1995 the shotgun was understood as an offensive gambit limited to passing downs because attempting to run out of it sucked. It would continue to suck until Rich Rodriguez accidentally invented the zone read when his QB at Glenville State screwed up. Once the option made spreading the field a run-game advantage instead of a disadvantage… [gestures at college football].

Michigan took the portal back to 1995 this weekend, and now we're back to crabbing about Michigan's offensive system while Lloyd Carr's on the field. RIP Speed In Space, 8/31/2019-9/7/2019. Cue the spittle, and the condescending media columns about how spittle is unbecoming.

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In the aftermath Harbaugh was asked about the lack of reads from his quarterback and made some assertions that I hope are not true:

On Shea Patterson potentially being dinged up and not running on option plays

He ran a couple. He was better. He was able to work through what he had and felt 100 percent for the game.

The read was not there for the quarterback to pull it.

If this is a 100% Shea Patterson, Michigan isn't doing anything this year. And it probably isn't. Patterson's lone called run of the game went four yards; Patterson was not hit but dove forward onto the ground. There he stayed. Dylan McCaffrey came in for the next two plays. Patterson returned for OT, hitting a couple of short throws across the middle in Michigan's first drive before three consecutive bad misses in OT2.

That certainly feels like a QB who Michigan is attempting to protect, because as soon as they stop doing that he goes out of the game briefly and then airmails all his passes of any length. (The OT1 throws were inside the hashes; the OT2 throws were on the sideline.)

The frustrating thing is that Army's approach never got tested. Michigan's rock paper scissors wins in this game were close to nonexistent. Army swallowed a fourth and two play with two guys in the backfield. Patterson's lone zone read keep ate a corner blitz. Michigan ran out of ideas late and kept returning to a no-read power play. This wasn't a return to the sometimes clunky early Harbaugh days—those had tons of different run plays and regularly popped guys through big holes by misdirecting linebackers. This was a near-total abdication of the idea of coordinating a run game.

So, like, what the hell? Why did game two of Josh Gattis become a debacle on par with Let's Put Denard Under Center? If Patterson is hurt why isn't Dylan McCaffrey playing? If Army is messing with Michigan's reads in basic scrape exchange ways, why don't you have a plan for that?

Like the title says: no good answers.

There's a lot of people extrapolating from not enough data and deciding to jump out of a plane; it's too early for that, but getting approximately zero coordinator wins in a tight game against Army while both quarterbacks get their offseason hype blown up is cause for concern.

Football's weird and Michigan has a bye week to get healthy and figure some things out. They'll have to.

[After THE JUMP: slomka, slomka, slomka, egg, and slomka]

AWARDS

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Hutchinson is in there somewhere [Campredon]

Known Friends And Trusted Agents Of The Week

you're the man now, dog

-2535ac8789d1b4991f1c37dee-a502-44d9#1 Aidan Hutchinson. TFL that put Army in third and eleven was all him, and he finished the sack on the next play. Also credited with the forced fumble that Metellus coulda shoulda scored on.

#2 Zach Charbonnet. Lack of yardage on ground even more disturbing because Charbonnet was seemingly maximizing his carries. He was able to regap in the backfield a few times like a much lighter guy. Also did not get Patterson killed.

#3 Josh Uche. A source of 1 and 0 yard plays either by getting off blocks and tackling himself or forcing things back inside on option plays.

Honorable mention: Ronnie Bell was half of the Michigan passing offense but gets knocked down into this section because his punt returns were an adventure. Lavert Hill made interception this week.  Josh Metellus and Brad Hawkins didn't screw anything up, which is hard to do as a safety against this offense.

KFaTAotW Standings

NOTE: New scoring! HM: 1 point. #3: 3 points. #2: 5 points. #1: 8 points. Split winners awarded points at the sole discretion of a pygmy marmoset named Luke.

10: Zach Charbonnet (#2 MTSU, #2 Army)
8: Ambry Thomas (#1 MTSU), Aidan Hutchinson(#1 Army)
6: Josh Uche (#3 MTSU, #3 Army)
1: Will Hart (HM MTSU), Jordan Glasgow (HM MTSU), Josh Ross (HM, MTSU), Sean McKeon (HM, MTSU), Shea Patterson (HM, MTSU), Ronnie Bell (HM Army), Josh Metellus (HM Army), Brad Hawkins (HM Army), Lavert Hill (HM Army).

Who's Got It Better Than Us(?) Of The Week

Kwity Paye, Aidan Hutchinson, Carlo Kemp, and Josh Uche combine to sack Army's QB and recover it on the final play of the game.

 

Honorable mention: Lavert Hill's INT prevents a 21-7 Army lead. Metellus grabs a fumble. Hutchinson sets up the final play with Michigan's first TFL in OT2.

X4OROG3KOKTIFUY4YU4SNSLDIY_thumbMARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Ben VanSumeren puts Michigan's third fumble of the game on the deck, condemning Michigan to a halftime deficit.

Honorable mention: Patterson's first fumble. Patterson's second fumble, which was Christian Turner busting a blitz pickup and not Patterson's fault. Josh Metellus's fumble recovery TD getting called back erroneously. That not being reviewable. Most offensive plays?

OFFENSE

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Throw the ball to Collins. Or Black. Anybody! The most frustrating part of Patterson's game right now is his refusal to punt the ball up to his giant leapy guys in jump ball situations. He did it once in this game, got nowhere near Collins, and still got a PI call. That should be the default response to pressure, or going through a read or two and not seeing anything particularly amazing.

Instead he's been moving up in the pocket and taking sacks, or scrambling for not much. Collins came down with two fade TDs against OSU last year. Are any of these Lilliputians seriously going to check him? Why does Collins come out of the game in critical situations and why doesn't he have a butt-ton of targets?

Two games in and Collins has one more catch than Charbonnet. He's on pace for a 33-catch year. That's without DPJ playing. What are we doing?

Speed of thought. The first fumble was a missed pickup but also a guy that Patterson saw coming while he had an open hot route drag in front of his face. Decisions were an issue for Patterson last year, and sometimes in the opener, and I feel like there are a number of quarterbacks who get that ball out instead of taking a sack. There's been a whole lot of "throw the ball!" going through my mind in the early going. It's rare that Patterson gets out a quick rhythm throw.

Charbonnet, though. The silver lining in the suck that was Michigan's ground game: Charbonnet did maximize his yards, and successfully picked through a lot of trash to do so. He demonstrated vision and an ability to re-gap that backs his size do not often have. Two games into his career and he's the safety blanket Michigan turned to after Turner got Patterson strip-sacked, and a 33-carry bell-cow after VanSumeren put the ball on the ground.

He's going to be outstanding if Michigan puts together offensive gameplans that aren't comprehensively crushed.

Hayes: stock down a bit. He got spun through easily on the Collins PI, forcing the quick throw that was way off. Michigan was mostly right-handed on the ground; with Runyan on the field they were mostly left-handed a year ago. Hayes isn't going to Wally Pipp Runyan.

On Jon Runyan Jr.’s injury

Jon was just really on the verge of being ready to play. He could have played, but there was … he looked good in practice, but we just felt like we would give him another week to make sure this isn’t something that’s a season ongoing problem.

On if he’ll start at Wisconsin over Ryan Hayes

Can I say that now? Most likely.

His two starts have been encouraging overall, but not enough to displace a returning All Big Ten tackle even if that tackle has a hard cap on his pass protection.

A foot away from a monster day. Ronnie Bell had a ton of catches in this game and one diving attempt at a wheel route that would have been a touchdown if he was able to catch it in stride. Bell was headed for a Poor Damn Ronnie Bell designation, and then he caught eight balls.

Bell's route on that wheel was very nice; he dusted the DB with an out move that the DB bit on and then was gone.

Short yardage problems. I preferred Michigan giving the ball to Ben Mason on dives, which IIRC worked every time last year except for one missed assignment by Runyan, to whatever Michigan's doing right now. It's impossible to get hammered in the backfield like Michigan did when you're running the simplest play in football behind Ruiz and Onwenu. TTB:

When any 5-man run scheme is involved, you’re outnumbered in the run game up front. Michigan can block 5 with the line and read another with the QB, but bringing a 7th guy into the box makes Michigan vulnerable to the SAM linebacker here bending off the edge unblocked. Unless Shea Patterson throws the ball quickly to the X receiver or gets it out to the trips side with a bubble or key screen, Michigan is going to struggle mightily to run the ball in this type of set against an aggressive defense.

The one area where I wanted Michigan to continue manballing without apology is also a tactical issue now. Cumong.

DEFENSE

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a third of Marc-Gregor's pictures are some variant of this [Campredon]

In a fundamental sense, who cares? Nothing about this defensive performance matters at all going forward. Michigan faced Army, a team that does Army things against everyone from Colgate to the Pittsburgh Steelers. The A-back got 29 carries. The game was watching an endless procession of thumps up the middle leavened by exactly five passes.

A couple of guys did pop out, at least. Anyway.

Approach. Michigan was in a 3-3-5 almost the whole game; the box was usually six players with a three-man safety level. This was close-ish to what they did against Air Force under Brown a couple of years ago. Michigan did blitz frequently, and in the second half they slid Hutchinson inside and had Uche on the LOS quite a bit.

This may have invited the frequent Slomka-ing but Michigan was successful in preventing outside runs. Army had the one chunk run on their first touchdown drive and nothing else that went over ten yards. Was that a good strategy? A bad strategy? I don't know. I don't know what the alternatives were.

Army never went on one of their trademark 19-play marches, but that was in part because Michigan's issues with holding on to the ball set them up with short fields. It's possible Michigan's strategy feels a lot better if Army's TD drives don't start on the Michigan 40 and Army 40 and they end before the endzone.

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Uche: all the time. Uche did get the vast majority of snaps for the first time in his career—and against a team that does almost nothing but run. He popped out on a few different plays where he was able to stack and shed OL to get thwacks in at the line of scrimmage. Final judgement is withheld until I can get through the UFR, and Army blockers aren't Wisconsin blockers. But, yeah, man, he's gotta play.

Also: Hutchinson. Michigan's DL all spent turns getting shoved downfield on dive plays in ways I don't know if I'm going to be able to judge. I caught one particular fourth-down dive on which Hutchinson folded inside of Uche and got shoved back because Michigan's three-man line allowed Army a double. But Army's double was bizarre, consisting of one guy engaging Hutchinson while a second Bush pushed the first guy from behind. How does one grade that? I guess I'll find out.

Hutchinson suffered his share of cut blocks and deposits downfield but also came up with the play of the game when he got a bonafide tackle for loss—excuse me, that doesn't do it justice. Hutchinson came up with a

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In the second overtime. He did this by (deliberately?) taking a false step on the snap, convincing a guard that he was not a threat, and then redirecting fast enough through the gap left by a pulling OL that he was able to turn second and eight into third and eleven.

Paye, Hutchinson, and Kemp then combined to force the fumble on the ensuing play. Their kicker had zero track record other than a miss from 50 at the end of regulation but I might have tried to get 6-8 yards and rolled those dice instead of throwing in an obvious situation to, but I haven't seen practice.

Holding. It wasn't until Sunday that I found out the holding call on Army's second TD drive was on Hill and not Hudson. Hill grabbed a guy in the way that DBs often do and got unlucky when he stumbled. Hudson flat out got beat and had to grab his guy around the waist to deal with it, and then his dude was the target. Hill's issue falls under the rubbin's racin' rubric to me, but I can't complain because a holding call was justice on that play.

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Up and down day for Hudson [Campredon]

Other Hudson issues. The single long Army run saw Hudson lose leverage and get locked inside by a blocker after he hesitated. Michigan safeties in general had a tough time getting off blocks when Army did venture outside. Offsetting the problems: it was Hudson's thunderous edge blitz that forced Hill's game-saving interception. He had a blocker, even.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Where art thou, Peppers? I have some sympathy for Ronnie Bell's punt return follies in this game because Army's first punt went 30 yards in the air, and then the second one went 45 yards to a sideline. Still: failing to field three punts and fumbling the one you do field is less than ideal. Hopefully Peoples-Jones is back for Wisconsin and we can forget the first two games of punt returns ever happened.

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Man alone. Michigan's fake punt was a check after Army left Dax Hill by himself. Useful to have a linebacker-sized upback who was a high school QB. Makes you wonder if that was a specific thing Michigan saw about Army or a general policy.

Meanwhile, I was momentarily terrified because Hill had to dodge a guy to pick up the first down. Michigan had just gotten a false start penalty, and someone actually asked him whether that was intentional to set up the fake. Harbaugh said no, if you were wondering.

Kickoffs: interesting? Giles Jackson busted a kick return out to Army territory before a penalty brought it back. He almost had another long jaunt before being chopped down at the 30. He looks like he might be the rare difference-maker as a kick returner.

One negative on his day: he got a jet sweep that was blocked for a chunk of yards. Like Michigan always seems to, he ran outside of a kickout block and set most of those yards on fire. If you see your teammate's back please do not bounce to the sideline. It is bizarre how frequent this is. Ben VanSumeren did it in the opener. When your 240-pound not-a-fullback guy is bouncing I start to suspect brain worms.

Blindside block: I thought we fixed this. Last year Michigan special teams did a good job of doing the hands-up I'm-not-touching-you-you're-touching-me thing on blindside blocks. They were legal last year but a frequent source of targeting calls and blocking-in-the-back penalties. Michael Barrett didn't execute this on the long Jackson return

MISCELLANEOUS

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bored [Campredon]

Commercials. We got two instances of the commercial-kickoff-commercial sequence once reserved for NFL games, and every single timeout that wasn't right at the end of a half went to a full media timeout. The athletic department has gone to a full-on distraction blitz for the great piles of commercial time, and even though they have an excellent idea of how many breaks are in a game they ran out of stuff to use at the beginning of the fourth quarter. In a game against Army.

Attendance is flagging because going to games is a worse experience. It's not hard.

The approach down the stretch. I liked what Michigan was doing on their final drive, which was poised on a knife edge because of Army's general Army-ness. Michigan has the advantage when there are two minutes on the clock, so a leisurely approach until you've reached the stage where you can move the ball quickly while Army cannot was good. And it paid off: even after the failed fourth down attempt all Army could manage with the time they had was a 50-yard FGA.

Going for it. Yeah, go for it. The second decision is unimpeachable, IMO, for the reasons I mentioned in the above bullet point. If you punt, definite overtime. If you get it you've got the ball on the Army 40 with two minutes left. If you fail, Army doesn't have much time to do anything with it.

It is easier to complain about going for it from the Army 19 with ten minutes left, but I didn't like the prospect of Michigan going up three and then seeing 19 consecutive Slomka dives with the last in the endzone.

To be clear, I also advocate getting it when you go for it. In favor there.

HERE

All about obliques:

The Function of the Oblique

Because of the way the obliques run, they are able to aid in a lot of motions, such as trunk flexion and sidebending.  However, the primary role here is rotation.   When the trunk rotates, you will find that your two sets of obliques work together.  An example would be when you rotate to the left, your right side external oblique and left side internal oblique work together to create this motion.

Why is this important in athletes?  Well for throwers, such as baseball pitchers and football quarterbacks, rotation is critical.  Try and throw the ball without rotating your body at all, and you will find that not only does it not go far, but you look like an idiot.

Best and Worst:

Worst: Scoreboard Gazing

What drove me crazy this weekend, maybe more than even this game, was how often people would look at, say, Maryland destroying Syracuse or MSU suddenly discovering an offense against Western and perilously over-read into early-season results. Yes, Ohio State beat up on Cincinnati and, because the world isn't fair, Fields will likely be yet another superstar for them. Wisconsin looks to be back to their usual ways, smashing USF and CMU by an aggregate score of 110-0. A week after MSU could barely crack 300 yards against a probably-bad Tulsa team (while giving up only 80 total yards), MSU scored 51 points with 582 yards of total offense, including 251 yards on the ground. My guess is MSU's offense is somewhere in between those two marks, and they'll get a big test next week when Arizona State shows up. Penn State struggled with Buffalo for a half and then turned a couple of breaks into a blowout, and more generally have outscored their two opponents 124-20. As a conference, there are 6 teams averaging 40+ points per game thus far, which ties the Big 12 for the lead in that completely arbitrary category. Do I think that holds true for the rest of the year? Probably not, but a lot of teams are eating their Wheaties thus far into the season.

Looking at playcalls:

Michigan got noticeably more conservative in the second half. I would suggest that things may go further: There appears to be a significant change after the strip-sack in drive three, Michigan's second turnover. On the subsequent drive (drive four) Michigan runs 5 out of its 6 plays, including every first down. The following drive was a "2 minute" drive that included a surprising amount of running. Michigan then produced the startling second half play selection that is recorded above.

Prior to the second lost fumble, Michigan's offense was actually quite diverse. There was a very close balance between running and passing, including on first down, there was lots of yardage gained, and the second drive produced a touchdown. The 2-minute drill balances the numbers somewhat, but even then, Michigan ran an unusual number of times for a 2-minute offense.

ELSEWHERE

Highlights:

Don't schedule service academies, the stat:

Since 1995, the three FBS military academies — Air Force, Army, and Navy — are a combined 41-11-1 against the spread* as underdogs of more than three touchdowns (21.5 points or more), according to Odds Shark’s database.

Most recently, Army took 29-point favorite Oklahoma and 22-point favorite Michigan to overtime in consecutive years, while 2018 Navy covered against Notre Dame and UCF. The popular advanced analytics agreed with the big spreads before kickoff ... and yet the trend held steady.

If you took the military underdog to cover all 53 of those spreads, you’d have beaten Vegas a hilarious 78.8% of the time. It’s hard to imagine there’s a much stronger trend with historical backing like this one. Just for reference, beating the sports book a mere 55 percent of the time would be considered really, really excellent.

Hoover Street Rag:

I am not saying any of us is a prophet, but someone in the Michigan fan base saw the Army/Oklahoma game as it played out last year on that one guy's Periscope stream and immediately asked the question "Wait, why did we schedule in 2019 Army again?"  Especially since Army was supposed to be playing Northwestern today.  Keeping in mind that Army had won 12 games in four years prior to 2015 when this game was announced, it wasn't an overly terrible idea, it's just that Jeff Monken hadn't had time to go full wizard on his team.  But never schedule a service academy.  We're done with this.  Or at least, we should be.

Lorenz:

Two wide open receivers missed (Bell deep, Collins in OT) and a dropped ball; Michigan gave away three easy touchdowns in the passing game. What concerned me most about Patterson is that he was only able to pick Army apart when he had a ton of time to throw the ball. He made a couple of improv plays out of the pocket, but there was very little as far as quick, crisp throws to get the ball in the hands of their playmakers. He didn't look decisive throughout the game and was totally careless with the ball on his first fumble. Call it what it was: a disappointing performance.

Sap's Decals:

OFFENSIVE CHAMPION – For the second straight week I’m going with Zach Charbonnet. Great running backs typically see three things when they run: the hole, the 1st down sticks and the end zone. It’s becoming obvious that 24 has the vision to see all three. Last week it was great pass-pro, this week it is the durability to carry the ball 33 times for 100 yards and three touchdowns. Dude’s just getting started and he already looks so comfortable in this offense.

MGoFish. Maize and Go Blue. Maize and Blue Nation. Adam Rittenberg.

Comments

turtleboy

September 9th, 2019 at 1:44 PM ^

Playing hurt Shea over two stud qb prospects in non-conference play gives me plenty of unease, the once formidable offensive brain trust turtling and having no real gameplan outside of hurt shea executing despite being hurt fills me with dread. I'd like to tell myself this is an aberration, but we have several years of bpone inducing results to overcome before I start giving the benefit of the doubt again. Prove me wrong, jim, I'm begging you. 

Kevin13

September 9th, 2019 at 7:29 PM ^

The fact Dylan is not playing is beyond frustrating right now. Shea is hurting and not moving the offense. He seems to be unable to read a crashing DE in zone read. He has missed numerous easy passes and has put the ball on the ground something  like 5-6 times in two games. We needed a fake punt to help us get our only points in the first half against Army. Why so stubborn to keep playing him when right now it’s just not working. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Try something different!

MonkeyMan

September 9th, 2019 at 7:46 PM ^

Harbaugh's 5th year and he still can't field a good QB. Lots of littler programs seem to find 'em; heck the QB that faced OSU in week one was better than anything I've seen on a Harbaugh field.

5th year and it still sucks- AND this is what the next 15 years are going to look like. JH has got a headlock hold on the job. Get used to it, its gonna be like this for a loooooooooooong time.

imafreak1

September 9th, 2019 at 1:46 PM ^

The dive to Mason did not work every time. In fact, it was stopped the last two times they tried it. Back to back dives on the first possession of the bowl game. A single missed assignment cannot explain both plays.

I think this focus on the lack of FB dives, misses the point about the issues with the offense. The announcers make this worse by talking about it incessantly. I remember the dive mostly on 3rd or 4th and 1 not 2. It only works for Army every time on 4th and 2.

 

West Texas Blue

September 9th, 2019 at 1:48 PM ^

Year 5 and still no light at the end of the tunnel for the Offense.   It's like every year it's something different.   3 OCs in 5 years, general malaise with the offensive line recruiting and play, and returning QBs that regress (Speight, Patterson).   Yet we have backup QBs that transfer and light up a conference contender (Joe Burrow vs Texas) or it's a true freshman lighting up an annual conference contender (USC's Slovis vs Stanford).

I think at this point it's safe to say Harbaugh has lost his "QB Whisperer" touch.   Outside of his first year with Jake Ruddock (who was already a 5th year QB who wasn't as bad at Iowa as people make it out to be), QB play and recruiting has uninspiring.   Peters and Speight transferred, O'Korn was a disaster, Patterson hasn't shown any progress from year 1 to year 2 so far, and now some people are saying McCaffery has arm strength issues so not ready to run the offense yet.   So where's the light at the end of the tunnel?   There is no faith in the offensive coaching staff anymore.

stephenrjking

September 9th, 2019 at 1:52 PM ^

There's a scenario in which Patterson is clearly the best QB on the roster and is good; where Gattis has designed a fantastic offense; where an injury to Patterson caused him real trouble on Saturday; where the staff, despite those issues, did not want to pull Patterson in a game where Michigan needs to gut through and develop chemistry without a QB controversy that could make real trouble in the locker room; and where the response to all of these things resulted in the game we saw, which was (in this scenario) a bizarre anomaly where everything that could go wrong did, that will bear no resemblance to the rest of the season.

That scenario is possible. It fits the facts.

It is also possible that Harbaugh is being Harbaugh, and that Harbaugh is actually Lloyd 2.0 with his frustrating refusal to embrace new stuff and get good at it, and that Harbaugh is not actually a great QB coach (he had Rudock for less than a year; no other QB at Michigan under Harbaugh has markedly improved from season to season, while Peters did not look ready at all despite a couple of years in the program, O'Korn failed to deliver on any of the hype he developed in practice, and Speight got noticeably worse from 16 to 17 before transferring out of the program entirely). 

I really want to believe that this offense can succeed. There is no excuse for it not to look, frankly, like LSU did against Texas. We have skill all over the field. The RB questions have been answered. The OL is banged up but should be fine. We have a 5-star QB starting and a high 4-star backing him up. We should light the world on fire.

And yet. 

The good news is that we don't have to wait long to get some real answers. Wisconsin looks really good, and Michigan doesn't excel on the road, and guess where the team goes a week from Saturday?

Either the improvements are real and we see them on the field next week, or they aren't and we don't. 

We'll know what we're in for this year before October gets here. That's comforting, at least. 

Decatur Jack

September 9th, 2019 at 2:34 PM ^

Agree with all except one part, this:

It is also possible that Harbaugh is being Harbaugh, and that Harbaugh is actually Lloyd 2.0 with his frustrating refusal to embrace new stuff and get good at it

If Harbaugh is the one controlling the offense then why didn't we go to Down G runs? Why didn't we run power with Mason and Charbonnet? This ain't Stanford. It's Gattis.

Gattis has abandoned the part of the offense that worked REALLY effectively last year, much like Borges abandoned the part of RR's offense that worked. This is a consequence of Harbaugh giving Gattis complete control of the offense.

We have to hope that the reason why the offense is not as good is because Gattis was holding back. He wants to wait until we have both tackles back, or something.

UM in NC

September 9th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^

How does this idea of coaches “holding back” stay alive?  Maybe (maybe) there might be one or two special plays saved up for rivals, but when the entire second half of play calling is a disaster, it’s not holding back.  It’s fucking up.  They just made bad decisions.  They did not have a winning game plan that they just ignored

Reader71

September 9th, 2019 at 8:38 PM ^

There is a scenario in which they are holding something back, but it's not to spring a surprise on a good team.

This is a new offense. It it not fully installed. Plus we're starting a freshman RB, two freshmentakles, and a freshman slot man. We've seen our offense add wrinkles throughout the season in every year Harbaugh has been here. 

I don't know how much a full install will change anything, since the genuinely new things haven't really set the world on fire, but there will be more and more stuff coming in. We have to hope we get good QB play. That's the beginning and end of this thing.

lhglrkwg

September 9th, 2019 at 3:51 PM ^

My fear is that it is Gattis' offense but Harbaugh still has a bridle in Gattis' mouth where he can steer the ship as he needs. It might be Gattis' playbook, but I would be 0% surprised (and I in fact think this is what's happening) if Harbaugh directs Gattis whether to run or pass when he starts feeling nervous. I don't think that's too hard to believe. What else is Jim doing on the sidelines? He sure isn't coaching the defense...

JBLPSYCHED

September 9th, 2019 at 2:43 PM ^

I agree. Our game at Wisconsin in two weeks is also Harbaugh's final exam in the 5 year course called "Flip or Flop: A Hard Reboot of Michigan's Football Program." To win that game we will have to execute well using a modern offense rather than relying on one off-tackle running play. I think it's possible that we demonstrate REAL progress in that regard but I am also prepared for an abject failure. It's a big game, a conference game, against a very good opponent, on the road. Nothing in our recent (or not so recent) history suggests that we will rise to the occasion. If we flop then in my mind it's not on Shea, not on the coordinators, not on bad luck, the weather, or circumstances, or any other damn thing. It will be on Harbaugh. And my fall Saturdays will be free to use as I please for the duration of his tenure. Go Blue!

volnedan

September 10th, 2019 at 10:50 AM ^

It seems his sentiment is like most, where if we lose at Wisconsin that is the breaking point of his patience on Harbaugh, until he proves his worthiness.  Whatever that means.

 

I'm not giving up on this season yet, but my expectations for Year 5 have been greatly reduced until I see otherwise.  The team is not passing the eye test yet.  

gmoney41

September 10th, 2019 at 1:38 PM ^

Well at some point we are going to have to win these games consistently or we will all check out.  At this point and time, Michigan is a paper tiger that is all talk. Winning Road games against ranked opponents will be a big step in the right direction.  Bpone is natural considering year after year of hype over results.  

Needs

September 9th, 2019 at 2:48 PM ^

I have not rewatched, but it seemed like the biggest issue in the passing game, other than the overthrows of Bell and Collins, was Patterson's pocket presence. He seemed markedly uncomfortable in the pocket and was looking to escape at the first opportunity, even when the Oline had the pressure reasonably under control or Patterson could see the rush with time to get the ball out (fumble #1).

 

I don't know if that has to do with him being relatively short as a QB, aftereffects of his time at Ole Miss and the ND game last year, or something else, but it certainly has to screw with the timing of the passing game, cuts out an entire side of the field, leads him to look to short outs and generally hurts the passing game. For this offense to get better and more explosive, he needs to be more disciplined in the pocket.

antonio_sass

September 9th, 2019 at 3:57 PM ^

I agree that this has been an issue this year and last. 

But he's also capable. Video here of completion to R. Bell where you can see him going through every progression and standing in the pocket: 

https://twitter.com/UMichFootball/status/1170502611352674305

Feels like he's generally too afraid to make a mistake, or is waiting for wide open receivers. Just chuck it. 

Needs

September 9th, 2019 at 4:11 PM ^

I think having the confidence and the time to do this key (it's also when the Moorhead offense took off in his first year at PSU).  

Watching Texas/LSU, so much of the Texas offense was just based on chucking it up to their talented receivers on the sidelines when the WRs had sight of the QB and the CBs didn't. Ellinger did take hits, but he hung in the pocket to make the throws.

They lost, of course, but that was due to their predictably porous D. The offense put up 38 on LSU, which always has top athletes on D, and Ellinger threw for 400 yards and 4 TDs.  

Shea's obviously not confident in his protection or in saying "Fuck it, go deep and out athlete the defense" but that seems like that might be a necessary step to open things up. 

I Like Burgers

September 9th, 2019 at 6:42 PM ^

Feels like he's generally too afraid to make a mistake, or is waiting for wide open receivers. Just chuck it. 

This is been my feeling since Harbaugh got here.  That first game with Rudock against Utah they went deep quite a few times, but Jake got picked off three times.  After that game, it felt like they just scraped the going deep portion of the offense until halfway through the season.  And ever since then I've always wondered if the reason they don't go deep often, and don't throw those 50-50 jump balls down the field is because Harbaugh is so turnover adverse that he rails on the QBs behind the scenes to the point they are shellshocked and won't take risks.

LKLIII

September 9th, 2019 at 6:14 PM ^

Man, I'm praying it's scenario #1 like everybody else.

The bad news is, on the surface, those factors laid out in #1 seem to be A LOT of unrelated issues simply converging on us all at once, which makes it on the surface less likely to be the explanation.

The good news is, in reality, many of those things can be explained by the concurrence of a few fairly straightforward. They are:

  1. The nature of & transaction costs of implementing the new offense
  2. Injuries--most notably to Patterson, Runyan, and DPJ.
  3. Our historical drought of beating OSU/winning the Big Ten
  4. How our schedule shakes out this year

The key thing is, these are not totally independent factors that are randomly cropping up (thus making the theory less likely).  Instead, these things are cropping up (or are worse that they'd normally be) around the same time specifcally because they feed into each other.  Examples:

  • Key injuries to Runyan, Patterson & DPJ contribute to the near-miss Ronnie Bell plays, some of the turnovers (blind side pass protection; Patterson rib/oblique injury makes it hard to tightly tuck the ball to one's side), and exacerbates some of Shea's natural tendency to rush reads, abandon a pocket too soon, & also to try to get rid of the ball in the midst of a sack rather than tucking it for ball security.
     
  • The new offense puts an emphasis even more on the need for an accurate & mobile QB. Having a good & healthy QB is also an efficient way to bridge an overall talent gap with a superior roster like OSU.  This puts a greater emphasis on the importance of QB health, especially for the Big Ten season & against our key rivals.  

     
  • The schedule also sets up a series of attractive oasis weekends after certain games--whether it be an actual bye week, or a cupcake opponent like Rutgers.  This creates additional upside incentives for the staff to entirely rest injured players who are "questionable", and to possibly bottle-up the playbook to limit/prevent additional injuries against either less talented rosters, or against non-conference opponents.  Get past MTSU/Army--bye week; survive Wisconsin--Rutgers, etc.  This assumes that due to the drought against OSU & the Big Ten Championship, the staff is taking a "first things first" approach & prioritizing beating OSU & getting to Indy, rather than rolling the dice on injured QBs & playing questionable players in order to try to run the table & hit the CFP.

 

None of this answers why we didn't put in McCaffrey instead of Shea so we could open up the playbook & also have him pull/keep on the Zone Read stuff.  That's the #1 thing that bothers me still. 

Maybe McCaffrey just doesn't have the whole offense mastered yet. Maybe they don't want to create a QB controversey and/or want to create as much chemistry as possible between Shea & the rest of the offense.  Or maybe, they are just *that* motivated to get to the MSU/PSU/ND/OSU stretch with BOTH Shea & McCaffrey as healthy as possible, that they are super nervous to even risk McCaffrey on the zone read/arc block keeper stuff until Shea is close to 100% healthy, lest they go into the meat of that Big Ten schedule with just one 100% healthy QB.

 

Wisconsin will be interesting.  People cynically say that if we lose to them, our season is over.

But, if my "transaction costs + injuries + schedule set up = sitting questinoable players more & artifically constrained playbook for some games" theory is right, then I don't think a win or loss per se against Wisconsin will tell us anything.   In reality, the inflection points will FIRST be the health of Shea, Runyan & to a lesser extent DPJ, and then everything flows from that.

If we lose because the turnovers continue/playbook remains constricted because they're STILL hurt, then it won't tell me much. 

OTOH, if their health improves and we STILL lose (because the playbook still doesn't open up or because it opens up & we dorf everything), then we are probably screwed because the injury theory underpinning everything will no longer be valid.