First Look: 2017 Defense Comment Count

Brian

DEPARTURES IN ORDER OF SIGNIFICANCE.

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[Paul Sherman]

  1. CB Jourdan Lewis. Two-time All-American has case for second-best cover corner in school history. Various excellent stats, none better than this: over his last two years throwing it in the dirt and throwing at Jourdan Lewis were equally productive in terms of QB rating.
  2. DE Taco Charlton. Rampant in the second half of the season against both run and pass and destined for the first round of the draft. Charlton was the rare WDE to play at 280 pounds and gave Michigan's run defense oomph it will miss even if his replacement keeps up the pass rush productivity.
  3. SAM Jabrill Peppers. Massively overrated nonentity will be mysteriously drafted in first round this April and have decade-long NFL career. Absence in bowl game went completely unnoticed and did not pave the way for almost all of Dalvin Cook's yards.
  4. NT Ryan Glasgow. Robot Viking finally started getting appropriately rated as a senior, when he was again an excellent penetrator and disruptor of all things run and pass.
  5. SDE Chris Wormley. TE obliterator and utterly steady; maybe a hair less than explosive. Pass rush not a huge strength, but that went unnoticed since everyone else was picking QB out of their teeth. Elite run defender capable of playing inside or out.
  6. CB Channing Stribling. Outstanding year in coverage; if he was any easier to hit with a completion than Lewis it was a narrow thing indeed. Run support an Area For Improvement, as they say. Should still go early in the NFL draft, as he's a legit 6-foot.
  7. Safeties Delano Hill and Dymonte Thomas. Close to interchangeable, so addressed together: capable of deep zones and slot coverage, these two kept Jabrill Peppers out of coverage almost all year. Tremendous luxury to be able to do that and flip 'em on motion. Thomas did bust a few times for big plays (most prominently against UCF and FSU), but as safety tandems go this might be tops in recent Michigan history.
  8. ILB Ben Gedeon. Sideline to sideline ILB who couldn't carry wheel routes downfield. Consistent tackler who showed up in the right spot almost every time; took on blocks with aplomb and shed them with authority. Lack of playing time early in career got more inexplicable every game.
  9. DT Matt Godin. Played well enough early in the season, when Hurst was laid up with a minor injury, to maintain that status for the duration. Was solid in his role; provided little pass rush but effective run defender. Least productive rotation DL by some distance but still meaningfully positive per PFF.

WHAT'S LEFT

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get in his belly [Fuller]

  1. DT Maurice Hurst. Technically not a starter but whatever man. Per PFF, the most productive interior pass rusher in the nation. Huge grades to both them and this sites UFR; with serious uptick in snaps should have breakout senior year and contend for AA status.
  2. ILB Mike McCray. Resurrected career after long-term injury threatened it and was about 80% revelation. Superior blitzer, tough customer on the inside. Struggled to contain edge runs for much of the year; late improvement in that department.
  3. CB Jeremy Clark. Injured in game four and Michigan will try to get a sixth year for him. If that comes through Clark is a bolt of experience in a secondary that will otherwise have almost none. Lost his starting job to Stribling but started anyway since Lewis was out for the first three games; has a year of solid starts under his belt and should be a draftable guy.
  4. DE Rashan Gary. Snaps limited by guys in front of him; impressive and productive when he did get on the field. Physical potential limitless, and should take The Leap as a sophomore.
  5. DE Chase Winovich. Crazy productive pass rusher who'd show up for a handful of snaps in big-time games and come away with a sack anyway. Per PFF had 27 pressure events in 277 snaps, which is almost precisely the same rate at which Charlton racked them up. Run D occasionally wobbly. Potential breakout player.
  6. DT Bryan Mone. Second straight injury-plagued year. As a result barely got over the 100-snap threshold that we're using to distinguish "new" from "what's left." Struggled when he did get snaps much of the year, hopefully because he was not 100%. Flashed ability against OSU.
  7. FS Tyree Kinnel. Promising safety candidate was dimeback for much of the year and did well in that role. Had a couple of Kovacsian TFLs where he'd fly up from outside the picture to kill a guy dead. Coverage, which was reputed to be a strength when he was a recruit, didn't get tested.
  8. CB Brandon Watson. Nickel corner was beat with some regularity when tested. Doesn't seem to have much upside.

WHAT'S NEW, OR CLOSE ENOUGH, ANYWAY

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dread level: rising [Patrick Barron]

Everything! Almost everything, anyway. The DL has some guys who have established a certain level of performance, to the point where only one of them is even sort of "new," that a redshirt junior who would be old except for terrible injury luck. 

Dudes flanking McCray. Devin Bush figures to draw into the starting lineup next to McCray since he was the clear #3 ILB last year. That should push the bulkier McCray to MLB and give Bush WLB. Hopefully that would allow McCray to focus more on getting vertical instead of lateral. Bush is very much a spread ILB.

Meanwhile at SAM/Viper(!!!), many different things could happen. Josh Metellus and Jordan Glasgow got Don Brown praise for their work at Viper(!!!) during bowl practices; Noah Furbush is a more traditional LB option at the spot; Khaleke Hudson still seems like a perfect fit as an emphatically box safety; if Michigan can get Willie Gay, recruiting types report that he is an instant impact player.

Either all of the secondary or all but one guy in the secondary. Michigan has a ton of cornerback talent pushing through at a spot where you can get by decently on athleticism. Safety has guys with scattered snaps a year ago and really needs a couple of players to come through.

WHAT'S ROD STEWART 1977

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omar comin' [Fuller]

Still the defensive line. Michigan graduates all four starters but this is very much a reload situation, not a rebuild. Michigan figures to start:

  • Maurice Hurst, who produced just as much as last year's top starters in 60-70% of their snaps. He is going to be elite.
  • Rashan Gary, who was +13 in about 300 snaps as a true freshman and is a holy lock to be real good as the #1 recruit in the country.
  • Chase Winovich, who would be coming off a double-digit sack season if he had as many snaps as Charlton, in his first year as a WDE.
  • Bryan Mone, who had a series of injury struggles the last two years but flashed his ability on a critical third and short stop against the Buckeyes.

Those guys are very much in contention for the best line in the conference.

Probably cornerback? If Michigan gets Clark back that's a veteran who will be of interest to the NFL as a Sherman-type jumbo CB; I thought he was a B+ guy in 2015 and should get better if allowed to return. Surely Michigan can find Lewis 2.0 from the pile of recruits in shiny wrapping paper they've accumulated.

Don Dang Brown. Brown lived up to the hype and then some. Michigan LBs totaled 43 TFLs as he solved problems with aggression; Michigan is at or near the top of any defensive metric you care to look at. While the copious talent had a lot to do with that, those guys were around last year and Brown still just about halved S&P+'s expected points allowed metric from 13.7 to 7.7.

While there's going to be some regression, Brown's defenses tend to take a year before kicking in to high gear. Increased familiarity with the system should help mitigate the personnel losses.

WHAT'S ROD STEWART 2017

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Is Kemp ready to play? Is anyone? [Fuller]

Defensive line depth. Seven different guys saw 250+ snaps last year, with Bryan Mone getting 117 of his own. Four of those guys are gone. There is a shortage of gentlemen ready to step in. This site constantly says that nose tackle is a spot with two starters. Starter #2 at NT is...?

DE is probably fine. Between Reuben Jones, Carlo Kemp, Lawrence Marshall, and Ron Johnson Michigan can find a couple guys to spell the starters. The only DT on the roster other than the projected starters is Mike Dwumfour, a middling three star coming off an injury redshirt. Michigan's bringing in a ton of DT types in this recruiting class but even if they get a top guy like Jay Tufele or Aubrey Solomon, relying on a true freshman in the two deep is alarming. Michigan might have no choice but to move Gary to DT.

Going from Peppers to Not Peppers. The silver lining of his absence almost certainly costing Michigan the Orange Bowl is that I don't have to spend much time explaining why Peppers's departure will be costly. Yes, he tended to go on a ride when he got blocked. Michigan was delighted to take that tradeoff if it meant that you could not outrun Michigan's front seven with Usain Bolt.

WHAT'S HEISENBERG ROD STEWART UNCERTAINTY

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[Eric Upchurch]

Safety. You know, I'm almost sanguine about safety these days. After a solid decade of safeties topping out at "eh, he hasn't set his head on fire" and frequently dipping into "welp, he set his head on fire again," Michigan's on a run of guys who are actual positives. It is at this moment that we must have maximum vigilance, for this is when Angry Michigan Safety Hating God loves to strike. 

Michigan clearly likes Kinnel. Unfortunately they have few alternatives; it looks like both Hudson and Metellus are tracking towards hits, but are both of those guys box safeties who you don't want to see in deep coverage? I dunno. Mental issues for a couple of true sophomores could pop up as well.

Outside linebackering. Bush will probably be at least all right and could verge on good by the end of the season.  SAM/Viper(!!!) could see just about any level of performance and it wouldn't be much of a surprise.

MANDATORY WILD ASS GUESS

What looks like another excellent starting DL and cornerbacks that should pick up the departed's mantle without too much trouble is a good baseline to work from. And while the unit is going to be young—just three seniors are currently projected in the starting lineup—it isn't going to be troublingly so. The only spots at which freshmen are likely to contend are backup DT and maybe somewhere in the secondary.

So while they aren't going to be this year's outfit, which was neck and neck with Alabama for the nation's best, neither are they going to drop off to average. Unfortunately, this is not a fully Harbaugh-ized program so there are some sore spots at which one injury could radically reshape the outlook—someone please wrap the DL starters in cotton until fall—so I reserve the right to repeal the prediction if the wrong guy goes down, but this should be a top 15 S&P+ defense and top 20-ish in YPP and the like.

Comments

lilpenny1316

January 13th, 2017 at 1:22 PM ^

Is that a bad thing?  Seems like he could have a Suh-like impact in the middle of the line.  That amount of strength and speed coming up the middle could lead to double teams and all kinds of opportunities for the edge rushers and Dr. Blitz.

JeepinBen

January 13th, 2017 at 4:26 PM ^

Gary will play both 3T and SDE, it's more a question of getting your best line out there. M's best line has both Hurst and Gary on the field. Hurst can play NT and 3T, Gary 3T and SDE. The question is who else is on the line with them?

Hurst's best position is 3T (maybe NT for passing downs), where's Gary's? And what's give M the best line?

markusr2007

January 13th, 2017 at 1:22 PM ^

That was a great 2016 Michigan defense, full of talent and snap experience.

I'm sure a lot of Big Ten opponents will believe going into 2017 "Michigan has been decimated by graduation".

It's nice to finally describe Michigan's defense as "reloading" again. Haven't  heard that pleasant term much since the early Lloyd Carr era.

Harbaugh!!!!

 

 

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

January 13th, 2017 at 1:46 PM ^

to another great D is DL health and depth. Really need Dwumfour to be steady & sturdy as 1tech backup; at least hold the POA. Real question is the physical ability of Hudson or Jeter or Bey or Solomon or et al to play 200+ snaps at DT - I think Brown will find a way. LBs will be fast and aggressive. I expect a great year from McCray as more MLB and Bush will bring explosiveness. Singleton and Anthony will bring the same speed, FB maturity and aggressiveness that Bush flashed as a backup. Secondary will be athletic and aggressive - some busts but very capable. I think the biggest loss or the biggest risk is the absence of Glasgow. If the DTs can just hold the POA, this D could be top 5.

llandson

January 13th, 2017 at 1:51 PM ^

I have high hopes for Metellus at safety. The last safety to flash such athleticism as a freshman was Kovacz. I always thought Hill and Thomas were average at best, and benefitted from having outstanding defenders around them. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that someone we currently think of as a CB plays more S next year. I long for the days of Tripp Welborne and Vada Murray. 

charblue.

January 13th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^

last season was the injury to Clark whose absence prevented the defense from really playing lights out with Lewis as the nickel back and Clark and Stribling on the corners and Peppers free to do his thing and improvise even more at Viper.

If Clark comes back, that really sets up a similar situation for the secondary where you find your best athlete and/or smartest and sharpest defender to take over the Viper role and really attack the offense. Clark brings not only great size but solid defensive skills. He was on most all special teams which is how he got hurt, not in his role at cornerback. I'm sure at the next level, he might be regarded as a safety. But of all Michigan's corners, he was always the steadiest in terms of defending passes. As the tallest guy in the secondary, he really is a major asset for this team when he is on the field and a real lynchpin to the entire defense.

I mean if he comes back, he could a starting defensive captain. And he is also well-respected by his teammates.

In either case, with all the secondary prospects Michigan is bringing in and those who got experience this season in limited opportunities, I am less concerned about the back line than finding enough backups on the DL and filling all the LB jobs, although McCray was outstanding this past season, in my opinion. He clearly advanced beyond any doubt in making linebacker a position of strength. Just don't allow him to be isolated on a speedy halfback like he was in the Orange Bowl, in spite of his tremendous pick 6 play.

Linebacker pass coverage is one thing that needs shoring up. Michigan was burned by Wisconsin, Penn State and others on wheel routes and receivers isolated on Gedeon and McCray.

Blue Sharpie

January 13th, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^

There is a reason he was a Heisman finalist and will get drafted before Lewis and Taco. Jabrill was like having 20,000 nuclear weapons that deterred things we were not even aware of. The dropoff at their respective positions will be most at Viper. Jabrill's speed on the strong side will not be equally replaced by anybody on the roster. But we do have Jourdan like speed at cornerback and the dropoff will be less noticeable. Even Jourdan himself said the young guys are ahead of him at the same age. Jabrill's intangibles were off the charts too, like confidence, energy, character, competiveness, angry tackling, instilling a fear factor, and his overall attitude. Jourdan is a quiet lead by example guy. I also wonder if our DB's benefitted more than the LB's from having a great DL line. There's also the obvious reason that Jabrill has eligibility left, but Taco and Jourdan are out of eligibility.

ca_prophet

January 13th, 2017 at 2:45 PM ^

including our Heisman candidate.  And yet we have the makings of a pretty good defense on hand.  What we lack is depth.

There are definitely some problems ahead, but this side of the ball looks to be good on the line and so worries me less.

 

alum96

January 13th, 2017 at 2:45 PM ^

Young inexperienced talented guys at corner...ok mostly.  Young inexperienced talented guys at safety... oh no's.

I feel more sanguine about the defense than offense next year but it's all relative. Especially when you can't count on Mone to stay upright for 20% of the season.  Also Hurst has benefited from the smaller workload - it's a lot easier to penetrate when you are going up against a guy worn down by the Glasgow types.  His energy level on 3rd down won't be the same now.

Don Brown was handed a Ferrari last year - this year is really going to be one we see what Brown can do for you.

GoBlue in IA

January 13th, 2017 at 3:05 PM ^

While we lose a ton of experience upperclassmen bring, this will be the second year under Don Brown.  His track record in year two speaks for itself.  Unless there is a true freshman who will see significant playing time, all of our defense will have been under the tutelege of Dr. Blitz for two years.  

The stats may not be as gaudy as this past year, but the defense will not cost us games.  Hopefully the O-line issues start to go away and the offense can keep the D on the sideline for prolonged periods during the game.

The 2017 defense will be fine.

 

lhglrkwg

January 13th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^

What a blessing this is to lose a ton of NFL level starters off an elte defense and be able to say that theyll probably still be top 20-30ish. Never Forget.

AC1997

January 13th, 2017 at 4:20 PM ^

Besides health, you could make the argument that Hudson, Mettelus, and Dwumfor are among the most critical players this off season. The safeties essentially both have to be good enough to play right away because the last Glasgow is the only other remote possibility at safety/viper. And we need another DT in the rotation with Dwumfor being the only obvious option. I think the starting DL and ILB are fine and we have literally seven viable corners to yield two starters. Safety/viper and a third DT are the biggest unknowns.

AA Forever

January 14th, 2017 at 2:08 PM ^

He's too small.  Not many guys are going to make an impact at DT at 270-280 lbs playing against Big Ten offensive lines.  We've got way too many DE types, and almost no true DTs.  Hudson and Jeter are the only guys in the recruiting class who are even close, even they are too small to count on at 3-tech this year against decent competition.

AA Forever

January 14th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^

We need Gary to be great.  Not very good, but great.  Consensus All-conference and strong All-American candidate.  He needs to dominate against pretty much everyone, and be better than anyone we had in 2016.

 

Bp6

January 15th, 2017 at 2:43 AM ^

I really hope the staff hits defensive tackle and nose tackle hard next year while out on the recruiting trail. The best teams in the nation are always loaded in the trenches. The interior defensive line is so important to a defensive coordinator. It would be really nice to get Solomon or steal a DT recruit we haven't heard of yet. Next year should be a slight down year, but the team will be so much fun to watch.

michiganfanforlife

January 16th, 2017 at 9:01 PM ^

I'm more optimistic than most. Before Harbaugh arrived this defense was ok but not very good. These guys got forged into fine weaponry and I can't wait for some of Harbaugh's handpicked PIMPS to go through this same process. When Jim's guys are Juniors/Seniors we will be a fully operational battle system. Add Don Brown and it's just not fair. We will solve problems with aggression and I don't think we take a step back. This team will be young and hungry. We will crush our enemies and hear the lamentation of their women.



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