The Evolution of Commerce - What Industries are Dying, What's Thriving?

Submitted by xtramelanin on

Mates,

It has been on my mind recently that we live in a time of change as it relates to many things, not the least of which is commerce.  I see some industries that we all know are dying (see e.g.,  video stores and malls in general) and of course some that are now taking the front and center stage (see e.g.,  Internet shopping ala Amazon).  

Among some of the other dying trades would be things like newspapers, bookstores, 1 hour photo (do those even exist any more?) and maybe things like phone booth manufacturers.   

As to thriving industries, those might include all manner of elder care businesses, microbreweries and distilleries (I can hear a loud cheer from the mgoglitteratti), and surprisingly some of the agricultural/farming niche industries.  

So for you Mgovisionaries, the question is really a two-part one:  What industries do you see that will either die althogether or shrink considerably?  Similarly, what are the up and coming growth industries?   

Lets hear from all you uber-smart folks on the list.  

XM

wolverinebutt

April 21st, 2018 at 12:18 AM ^

Will the public library system reinvent itself or fade away? 

Could the public library only be for the poor in the future or just close?  What will library wokers do if they all close? 

Remember Stars Wars the 3rd of the first batch there is a Librarian that cannot help with a star chart with Obi wan.  Humm, AI won't take their jobs?       

ndscott50

April 21st, 2018 at 12:21 AM ^

In 20 to 50 years labor could be a thing of the past. Trucking, shipping and receiving, manufacturing, farming are not that far from full automation being feasible.

Autodesk and others are aggressively working on 3D printing for construction. They are also further along on

ndscott50

April 21st, 2018 at 12:25 AM ^

Automated design and engineering then people think. The more complex professions related to medical and data analysis are all in range of advanced AI in a 20 to 50 year timeframe.

In the end we are left with art and leisure by 2050 to 2070.

BeatOSU52

April 21st, 2018 at 12:23 AM ^

There’s a bunch of people that try to promote their so-called sports expertise on twitter and sell
“VIP” picks of the days all the time . These people only seem to be growing .

Venom7541

April 21st, 2018 at 12:59 AM ^

now is the time to buy land to grow marijuana for the day it becomes legal nationwide. I can't even partake, I literally get sick and throw up when I try it, but for writing is on the wall for the new industry.

Blueblood80

April 21st, 2018 at 2:54 AM ^

One thing that seems sure with all the newer technology is that obesity and laziness will not only thrive but reach levels we can’t even imagine.
Die: Personal relationships as we know it. We will live on internet boards with some very awful people. Oh wait....

Gulogulo37

April 21st, 2018 at 4:48 AM ^

Small bookstores have actually made a significant comeback already. The big stores don't offer much that Amazon doesn't. But small bookstores give a little community and intimacy that Amazon obviously doesn't at all.

switch26

April 21st, 2018 at 6:55 AM ^

I sell on Amazon and other pod services. I'm going to do it full time eventually. Best passive income I love it

throckman

April 21st, 2018 at 7:31 AM ^

Any job that requires making decisions based upon incomplete information is a growth industry. AI is terrible at that. (So are most people, heh.)

1VaBlue1

April 21st, 2018 at 8:22 AM ^

Excellent topic, Xtra!!!

Growth, well, continued growth, is government contracting.  Not only DoD based, either.  All gov't agencies need massive SW and systems upgrades/renovations/replacements.  And the agencies can't do it themselves.  They don't have the resources (ie: people), and can't afford them.  They will have the budget to pay someone else to do it, though.

 

reddogrjw

April 21st, 2018 at 9:28 AM ^

there are a ton of finesse parts of manufacturing that are tough to automate

 

many things like robotic welding and body shops for automotive are realtively simple, but assembly of all interiors are tough

 

maintenance of all this stuff is also an increasing industry

 

computers are not reliable from the fact that how often do you have to re-boot or re-set things

 

it is coming, but it is unlikely to happen in our lifetime

jbrandimore

April 21st, 2018 at 10:11 AM ^

Declining industries. Printing and publishing. I work for a company that sells hardware and software into that industry. The thing I have noticed from a front row seat is that when people project the future for the industries that will be most impacted by technology, they always assume that other than for employment aspects, technology is universally positive. It’s not. Not by a long shot. We were doing work in the 1990s that is literally impossible to do today. The never ending quest for ever lower prices for equipment and consumables has led the companies that make this equipment to make products which are hot garbage. Also, people used to be willing to pay for things like professional photo shoots where the ethos of 2018 is, “we had my nephew do this on his iPhone” or download it from our Facebook page. It is undeniably true that you can get final product cheaper and faster than ever before, but it is largely garbage. If I was to coin a term for this, it might be “the Ikea effect.” Sure, they can sell you a dresser cheaper than you have ever bought one before, but it’s not made of wood, and you’ll be lucky to get twelve years out of it before it falls apart. I have a feeling this price/quality trade off is in many more industries than mine.

LJ

April 21st, 2018 at 6:17 PM ^

Is that necessarily bad? Isn’t that just the market saying, “we’re not really interested in paying $200 for senior photos, or $500 for a nice dresser.” It’s not like we’re being hoodwinked—it’s just market forces. If people wanted that high quality expensive stuff they’d pay for it (and some do)

Shadowban

April 21st, 2018 at 11:04 AM ^

I think a lot of these micro breweries and distilleries will tank as soon as we see any type of significant economic downturn. Traverse City has brewpubs for days, and distilleries tucked away here and there, all dependent on what they see as an ever increasing supply of tourist disposable income. A little stock market tumble here, decreased corporate spending there, some unemployment, it will all fall down.

MClass87

April 21st, 2018 at 11:05 AM ^

In ten or so years, you will see relatively few privately owned cars within the large cities across the country.  They take up too much space in terms of parking, they pollute and are the source of too much user-error (i.e. accidents).  Cities will tax the living crap out of people who want their own car and will outsource individual transportation to companies that provide fleet service to individuals on a pay-for-use basis.  Push a button on your phone and the robo-car arrives within seconds.  The cars will be autonomous and electric, so the need for auto insurance will drastically change.  Eventually, self-driven cars will be seen as being so dangerous to the public, that they will be outlawed in the big cities.  The need for traffic lights and most of the annoying things that cause traffic jams, especially nasty taxi drivers, will be eliminated.  On another positive note, no more fear of getting a DUI, so a bunch of low-end lawyers will be out of work!

Don

April 21st, 2018 at 11:33 AM ^

I realize the notion that privately-owned/operated cars will soon be a thing of the past is conventional wisdom right now, but once upon a time so was this idea:

People have been predicting the imminent demise of the conventional automobile for as long as I've been alive, and the notion that any major American governmental unit is going to "tax the crap out of people who want their own car" (any more than said governments already do) is as mistaken as was the notion that by 1967 we'd all be driving flying cars.

One thing future prognosticators consistently get wrong is the pace of technological change when it comes to transportation systems and the engineering/science required to create and support them. Just consider that the original "Blade Runner"—released in 1982—envisioned not only flying cars, but the infrastructure necessary to support "off-world" colonies somewhere in extra-solar space.

In 2019.

rob f

April 21st, 2018 at 3:26 PM ^

Don's age. Knowing that Karl Benz is widely credited with inventing the automobile in 1885 (and the first naysayers immediately predicted its demise), it's safe to assume Don is at least 133. And that Popular Mechanics magazine cover? Sure doesn't look like George Jetson taking George's wife Jane for a pleasure drive.

Steve in PA

April 21st, 2018 at 11:34 AM ^

I work for a telecom provider and can't believe that people still order landlines.  I would guess that at least 50% of landlines have disappeared since I started though.  When I was hired it was the dot-com boom era and just about everyone was ordering a second line for their AOL dialup on 56k modem.

Wendyk5

April 21st, 2018 at 4:14 PM ^

I love my land line. The quality of connection is very consistent. When I’m on my cel phone in my house, I can’t really roam around or the person’s voice drops in and out. Love it for when I’m not home, but at home, the land line rules.

I dumped the Dope

April 21st, 2018 at 12:24 PM ^

I work in a factory, some odd jobs but a large portion of it is fixing automation.  So I have programmed robots, understand PLCs, conveyance and process equipment.  I feel like there's a strong future in this.  Automation makes less mistakes than people and when it works properly, can also outwork them.  But I think the call for automation of many forms is going to need technical skills to set it up and service it when it fails.

I think a large percentage of the current retail experience enjoys a bubble formed by the trough in fuel prices.  I think low fuel prices cause people to spend more on prepared/restaurant foods.

I also think it disproportionately affects Amazon, so many of their products are shipped twice, once across the Pacific Ocean, and second thru ground distribution in the US.  I think the "double handling" is going to be challenged by fuel price increases.

I think there's a career in web design, a site designer who can make things easy to use, lots of details and photos available is also going to be a skill in demand.

Also at the end of the day, I feel like its important to implant in my kids that they need to be part of the "investor class".  Which isn't a swipe at anyone on either side, but over a lifetime there's so much money to be made having a pathway into owning stocks/bonds/mutual funds.  It just requires a mindset and a little financial disciipline.

Champeen

April 21st, 2018 at 12:51 PM ^

Thriving:
Polysilicon manufacturers globally
Green energy especially solar
Cyber security

Soon to be dead or dying:
Coal plants
Nuke plants
Video stores

FWIW I’ve been a huge individual investor for about 20 years. I’ve made more mistakes in a year early on than some make in a lifetime. Although those mistakes really suck and cripple you in the short run, you gain so muck valuable knowledge it helps you exponentially going forward.

2 opinions I have right now is to stay away from cryptos and with any discecianary income you have buy DQ especially if this trade war keeps going.

Don

April 21st, 2018 at 12:56 PM ^

After global populations are ravaged by drug-resistant bacteria and viruses, manufacturing will grind to a halt in much of the world as the complex communications networks and physical infrastructures necessary to sustain it will have collapsed along with the population.

However, the remaining pockets of population will still be large enough to sustain demand for the everyday manufactured items we take unthinkingly for granted today. The value of containers of all shapes and sizes and materials, simple manufactured items, paper, oil and other petroleum products, metals of all kinds, and even some kinds of clothing will skyrocket. The list is almost endless.

The places these things will be found will be in the gigantic number of dumps, landfills, recycling facilities, and random garbage piles that we don't pay attention to today. Control of these "mines" will be prized and fought over, and the men and women who are in charge of the largest of them will be as wealthy in their time as the Kochs and the Mercers are today.

SteamboatWolverine

April 22nd, 2018 at 1:41 PM ^

I am involved in IT Security Awareness training / culture initiatives. The #1 obstacle to growth is difficulty retaining IT security professionals who have kept their knowledge current as attack vectors evolve.