The Evolution of Commerce - What Industries are Dying, What's Thriving?

Submitted by xtramelanin on

Mates,

It has been on my mind recently that we live in a time of change as it relates to many things, not the least of which is commerce.  I see some industries that we all know are dying (see e.g.,  video stores and malls in general) and of course some that are now taking the front and center stage (see e.g.,  Internet shopping ala Amazon).  

Among some of the other dying trades would be things like newspapers, bookstores, 1 hour photo (do those even exist any more?) and maybe things like phone booth manufacturers.   

As to thriving industries, those might include all manner of elder care businesses, microbreweries and distilleries (I can hear a loud cheer from the mgoglitteratti), and surprisingly some of the agricultural/farming niche industries.  

So for you Mgovisionaries, the question is really a two-part one:  What industries do you see that will either die althogether or shrink considerably?  Similarly, what are the up and coming growth industries?   

Lets hear from all you uber-smart folks on the list.  

XM

guthrie

April 20th, 2018 at 10:50 PM ^

Virtually all of the kitchen jobs in the food service industry will die out within the next 15-20 years.

Companies that manufacture mass transit will explode but jobs for people operating transit will disappear within 30 years.

Massive construction/infrastructure projects will dominate the landscape as wireless charging becomes necessary, starting with streets.

Companies specializing is genetic editing will take off within a few years.


guthrie

April 21st, 2018 at 1:40 AM ^

I think the cooks and waiters are out the door. There’s some burger chain out here in Cali that has already replaced the cooks with a robot. And carrying food from the kitchen to a customer seems perfect for robots. Maybe the fancy places hold on to chefs and waiters but I think it will be a novelty like the gas stations that still have the attendants who run out and wash your windows while pumping your gas.

Don

April 21st, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^

Mass transit in what country? Europe or Asia, sure.

If you seriously believe that significant new mass transit is coming to the United States any time within the next two decades, you're fooling yourself. Badly.

The political will, or power, necessary to make it happen doesn't exist, since one of our two major political parties is categorically and philosophically opposed to anything smacking of public transit, and the money isn't there, anyhow—the recently-enacted fiscal time bomb that's now ticking at the federal level will doom any attempts to raise the necessary capital for such endeavors.

guthrie

April 21st, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^

You’re thinking about it from the wrong perspective. You’re thinking mass transit is for helping out people. If that were the motivation, then I would agree with you.

But the fact is there is going to be an incredible amount of money to be made in mass transit. And that’s the only motivation that matters.

It won’t be long before freeways and surface streets are demolished in order to add wireless charging capabilities for driverless electric cars. When that is being done, governments all over the country will use eminent domain to simultaneously expand mass transit so that it’s functional in the US.

The reason will be that large corporations which produce transit vehicles will see the money trough about to open and will lobby like crazy to get their hands on it.

schreibee

April 21st, 2018 at 10:55 AM ^

It ALREADY exists (Google esports if you're truly unaware of this). It's almost completely participated in & spectated by young ppl, the ones who would've been sports fans in prior generations. Some players are making in the 6, maybe even 7 figures! And fyi, an asteroid the size of a football field passed Earth the other day, twice as close as the moon. If one that size ACTUALLY hit ground, it could virtually obliterate a modest size city, and cause dust & debris to blacken the sky over a sizable area. Similar to a volcano erupting in an urban area. So...

Chaco

April 20th, 2018 at 11:02 PM ^

thriving:

- data analytics/mining/science & insights

- medical industry of all kinds (home healthcare along with med research and pharma)

- virtual reality technology which I think will act as a layer on top of a bunch of industries (imagine "virtually" walking through a design of your home before it is built as a way to "experience" the architect design before any building starts.  Same concept with say an operating procedure where a doctor can use vt to operate on someone thousands of miles away - already happening today but will increase)

- payments industry chain (banks, payment, credit etc)

- m&a activity along with partnerships (future business solutions will require a lot of specialization and therefore a lot of real-time collaboration among experts to create an end-to-end solution)

- I think there is already a collapsing into regional city hubs (Chicago, Denver, Atlanta, Dallas/Houston, Seattle, SF, LA, WDC, NYC, Boston, maybe Philadelphia, maybe Charlotte) but that could halt/reverse as people get tired of the congestion and use some of the above trends to exist remotely 

- "experience economy" - only way to differentiate so it will also act as a layer on top of all sorts of industries.  The "Lyft" experience is > the "taxi" experience in pretty much every way; personally I feel that youtubetv > sling tv because of the experience - so the first mover can end up getting mowed down by the fast follower with the better experience.  I think AOL will overtake Compuserve as a result. 

- also, seemingly, vape shops

 

dying:

- bricks and mortar retail - especially strip malls (see vape shop exception above)

- personally I think accounting and legal professions will take a hit in the next ten years as AI/rules-based concepts start to take out the lower end repetitive aspects of those professions 

- again just personal opinion but I think the traditional world of academia is a bit of a bubble waiting to pop.  When you look at tuition cost trends along with things like distance-based learning and the Khan academy and the comfort with which "today's kids" deal with virtual technology I could see a world where a substantial % of the population just opts out of the "go live here 4-5 years while you get a degree" approach.  I think smaller schools with small endowments (heh heh he said endowment) will be the canary in the coal mine.  

- not dying but we've already seen the "splintering" of entertainment, broadband delivery, news/media industries so places that can somehow simplify and package/aggregate (e.g. Youtube TV) will emerge

- oil change shops....electric cars will slowly replace gas cars in the fleet and no need for jiffy lube

 

there are more but I think this is boring enough already....

Commie_High96

April 20th, 2018 at 11:16 PM ^

Lawyers are safer than you think, no one will ever want computer judges, or advocates. You going to trust telling a computer the types of confidential info you might have to tell a lawyer? Your social security number is not even close to as confidential as your really private, personal shit. They said outsourcing to india was going to hit lawyers. One case where someone got inside info from indian legal assistants killed that industry.

4yearsofhoke

April 21st, 2018 at 4:04 AM ^

Have some knowledge/xp in the legal tech space. It's hard to predict what AI will do for the legal industry.

On one hand, AI/machine learning may lead to lawyers being able to more due diligence for deals etc... because they can review documents much faster.

On the other, stuff like basic wills etc... will get farmed out to services like LegalZoom. The catch is there is a huge market of people who should/might want to consider legal services who simply don't. E.g. the guy making a lower class income may never approach an attorney about estate planning, BUT he may use LegalZoom. Same goes for a small start-up for IP regarding trademarking their IP.

A lot of law is not simply just rules (but it can be). A decision-tree or expert system type tech won't be able to compute things like "Is this person an independent contractor or an employee?" There's too many variables generally to give a clear yes or no in many cases and firms selling software doing this are building in some big data/machine learning based algorithms to give risk tolerances etc...

*Real STEM people please excuse me if I used any tech terms in the wrong way.

stephenrjking

April 21st, 2018 at 12:14 AM ^

Interesting thoughts. Not sure I agree with all of your conclusions, but I enjoy the reasoning. Worth noting: in some cases the term "dying" is a misnomer. "Contracting" is a better term to me for what is happening to brick-and-mortar retail. There's always going to be a market for some in-person shopping, but it is getting tighter and the effects aren't yet fully known. Innovation is non-linear and it can be hard to predict the impact new technologies will have. We aren't close to flying cars, but everyone has a smartphone, etc. I think there's good potential for AI processing to grow significantly in its role in society (low-level accounting as you mentioned) but as argued above me there's no telling what industries may or may not be impacted.

SeattleWolverine

April 21st, 2018 at 9:35 AM ^

As a person living in one of the now 9 states with legalized recreational weed, this is actually kind of a thing. But in the end, growing weed is just ag, distribution is just distribution, and retailing really isn't much different so aside from the barriers to entry on the regulatory side it's too easy for competitors to move in. Definitely a lot of money to be made but not a gold rush. 

The Dirty Nil

April 20th, 2018 at 11:29 PM ^

I’m in the home construction business and damn, is it great here in northern Michigan. Name your price and people are willing to pay because there just aren’t enough people willing to go do the work consistently. That’s not something that’s going to be replaced by robots thankfully.

xtramelanin

April 20th, 2018 at 11:32 PM ^

industry, and i was watching a video last week about how a robotic system was going to build a house on site, including laying the block for the foundation and the framing.  i guess i can see some of that being mechanized, but i have a hard time seeing it all done away with.  too many variables. 

ATC

April 20th, 2018 at 11:44 PM ^

Although thriving..... the advent of cavitation will transform a vital industry relied upon for quenching all thirst near and far. Cavitation eliminates milling grist completely (yes, you read that correctly), greatly lowers saccharification temp. and significantly reduces conversion time. Cavitation brewing tech. will be the equivalent of giving matchsticks to cavemen.

ndekett

April 20th, 2018 at 11:45 PM ^

Everyone thinks his or her job is immune from being replaced by AI and robots, but I suspect we're all wrong. AI will take menial jobs first, but after that, the more money you make, the more incentive there is to have you replaced. I think the best we can hope for is to consult the robot programmers.

champswest

April 20th, 2018 at 11:52 PM ^

It will all be special effects and we won’t be able to tell the difference. Also gone: clocks, watches, cameras, books, newspapers, magazines, movie theatres, personal vehicles, animal agriculture, coffins, funeral homes and the US Post Office.

Sam1863

April 21st, 2018 at 5:49 AM ^

Einstein said, "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

And Ludwig Borne said, "Losing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth."

So if this is true, does the death of reality mean that mankind will become wiser? Or is that just another illusion?

 

Damn. I knew I should have quit drinking and gone to bed.