Football Scoop (24/7 confirmed): Harbaugh offers position to Ed Warriner

Submitted by The Krusty Kra… on January 20th, 2018 at 12:29 PM

This is interesting since Michigan is currently at 10, a sign that Pep is on his way out?

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop-2/scoop-saturday-january-20-2018/

EDIT: 24/7 confirms he has interviewed as an Offensive Analyst: https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Bolt/Ed-Warinner-to-join-Michiga…

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GustaveFerbert

January 20th, 2018 at 12:43 PM ^

Is an MSU signee

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Hotel Putingrad

January 20th, 2018 at 12:51 PM ^

he probably wants to be closer to his kid, and getting away from peppy PJ is just a bonus

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Youngharbaugh4

January 20th, 2018 at 12:45 PM ^

Is what’s in circulation.

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DoubleB

January 20th, 2018 at 1:26 PM ^

are now in the offensive kitchen? Drevno, Hamilton, Enos, and Warriner--all have been OCs recently I believe--plus Harbaugh

The one thing I give Harbaugh a ton of credit for is that he doesn't seem to just hire guys he knows and has worked with. He tries to find guys that he thinks makes the program better. The opportunity to put a really great staff together exists, IF he can get it delegated and organized the right way.

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FatGuyTouchdown

January 20th, 2018 at 1:34 PM ^

he wouldn't be a cook. His job would primarily be breaking down film, scouting opponents and helping drawup gameplans as well as recruit on campus. Think of him more as the guy that delivers the food than a cook. He will have no input on gameday playcalling and won't even be on the field.

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DoubleB

January 20th, 2018 at 2:05 PM ^

that's his job. The man has 30+ years of experience. Do you really need to bring in someone with that resume (who, mind you, already has a job coaching) to break down film and draw up scouting reports? There are coaches on this board who can do that work. He will be much, much more involved than that.

The other option is that he really, really dislikes PJ Fleck.

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OwenGoBlue

January 20th, 2018 at 3:17 PM ^

I'd expect that analyst spot has some fingerprints on situational and opponent-specific gameplanning. With advances in film/opponent scouting you need skilled guys working on short yardage, third down, red zone, etc. gameplans weeks ahead of matchups. Seems better to have a college guy with intimate knowledge of opponents than an NFL guy like Turner in that role.

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Bambi

January 20th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^

It sounds like he might be coming in as an offensive analyst, which would be great. If he somehow took over at OC I'd be pissed. He was run out of OSU for being a terrible OC and only got a job at Minnesota as an OL coach. He seems like the type of guy who's good as a position coach, but anything more is too much for him.

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team126

January 20th, 2018 at 12:53 PM ^

He walked a long distance to get here.

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bacon

January 20th, 2018 at 1:15 PM ^

I’ve always thought it was a shame that the willingness to walk to Ann Arbor was so high on the list of the job criteria that Brandon used to make that hire. There’s no question that Hoke loved Michigan, but the same is true of almost everyone on this board.

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January 20th, 2018 at 1:42 PM ^

Most of us didn't recognize the significance at that time (and I include myself in that group).

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evenyoubrutus

January 20th, 2018 at 1:13 PM ^

HOWEVER their offensive line seemed to take a big step back when he stopped coaching that position. Maybe offensive line coaches simply don't make good coordinators?

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Bambi

January 20th, 2018 at 1:32 PM ^

True about their OL. Agrees with what I said above, he seems to be a good OL coach but not a good OC. Hiring him as an OL coach I would be happy with even, but OC would be bad.

And it seems that way. I'd be okay with letting other teams figure that out for sure though.

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ScooterTooter

January 20th, 2018 at 2:02 PM ^

It might be stereotyping a bit, but it makes sense. Why would you expect guys with an OL background to be creative when it comes to offensive scheme?

Maybe someone with more knowledge could weigh in.

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DoubleB

January 20th, 2018 at 2:08 PM ^

passing routes, the OL coach is involved with every other aspect of an offense. All run game, screens, pass protection.

Just because it isn't designing a 30 yard pass play doesn't mean it isn't creative.

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Stringer Bell

January 20th, 2018 at 2:11 PM ^

Think it has more to do with the workload. OL is such a large position group, and you have to teach the players not only proper technique but also schemes, etc. Molding 5 guys into a cohesive unit is hard, and doesn't really lend itself to doing double duty as an OC. Just my opinion.

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brad

January 20th, 2018 at 5:20 PM ^

ding ding ding ding ding ding ding, we have a correct answer

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BlueHills

January 20th, 2018 at 1:16 PM ^

Yeah, just look at his team results. Terrible. Co OC from 2012-2016, right? 2012 undefeated. 2013, 12-2 2014 National Champions 2015, 12-1 2016, 11-2 I mean, Harbaugh doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing hiring coaches with that kind of record. Good thing you’re around to tell him.

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Toby Flenderson

January 20th, 2018 at 1:18 PM ^

Jim Bollman was also co-OC under Jim Tressel when OSU won the NC in 2002, and went to the NC game in 2007 and 2008. I guess we want him right?

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Jimmyisgod

January 20th, 2018 at 1:27 PM ^

Well, he's helped MSU get to the playoffs and win a Big Ten Title since he's arrived there. So maybe he's a decent coach.

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Bambi

January 20th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^

Bollman's S&P+ offense rankings:

2012: 59 (year before Bollman got to MSU)

2013: 64

2014: 10

2015: 31

2016: 66

2017: 92 (worse than Michigan this past year)

Seems like a top tier coach to me..

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Christicks

January 20th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^

Haha this is a textbook PWNing!

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Bambi

January 20th, 2018 at 1:45 PM ^

He was OC that entire time, with those results, and was run out of town and his next job was a clear demotion. What does that say about him?

Also, OSU's S&P+ offensive ranks while Warriner was there:

2012: 16

2013: 2

2014: 1

2015: 20

2016: 23

2017: 7

Guess which year his Co-OC Tom Herman left? Answer is after 2014. Guess which year Warriner was run out of Columbus? Answer is after 2016. He was given the most stocked cupboard offensively you could ask for and could barely put together a top 20 offense. You think he would do any better here?

Also glad to know OC's now get credit's for W/L record now. Can we bring back Mike DeBord? We went 11-2 with him in 2006 you know.

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January 20th, 2018 at 6:18 PM ^

He and Tim Beck were a failure as OCs. If he is the OL coach I would think he would do an excellent job. The OL were not very good in 2011 before he took over and sent a bunch to the NFL. Oh and he inherited Bollmans horrible offensive line recruiting in 2012. Ie he did it without a 2014 type roster at OSU.

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BlueHills

January 20th, 2018 at 10:13 PM ^

I hate to say it, but all of those numbers taken together are more impressive than our recent results on offense. But beyond numbers, they won games. More games than Michigan. People who know how to coach game winning teams are good to have.

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Northville

January 20th, 2018 at 2:33 PM ^

Actually, don't. There is no comparison.

I mean, surely Harbaugh isn't gonna make this guy just an analyst. If that IS the plan, I know I'm not alone in thinking that adding more line cooks to an already crowded kitchen sounds wonky at best.

Harbaugh will either truly shake-up the top of the O staff or another bad season will surely force his hand.

We'll see. I personally think Shea is gonna be an overnight sensation. Just how sensational hangs in the balance of these decisions though, it seems.

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umchicago

January 20th, 2018 at 3:34 PM ^

pep is gone. this guy also focuses on a portion of the OL to coach (ie. interior or tackles) to assist drevno.

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Blau

January 21st, 2018 at 9:51 AM ^

Only a matter of time before JH adds a Special Teams coach in charge of the 3rd gunner down the left side of the kickoff team. Can never have too many of those on your staff.

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chrysler buckeye

January 20th, 2018 at 12:55 PM ^

Harbaugh offers the son first and then hires the parent?

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goblue2008

January 20th, 2018 at 1:13 PM ^

Does it feel weird that we are hiring assistants/analysts with different offensive philosophies (ex warriner vs Enos)? There isn't a consistent philosophy and identity we are trying to implement. (Serious question, not trying to be a negative Nancy)

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SpilledMilk

January 20th, 2018 at 1:17 PM ^

I think it's just more evidence that this is Harbaugh's offense and whoever is hired is expected to conform to his philosophy.

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RedGreene

January 20th, 2018 at 1:25 PM ^

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mgokev

January 20th, 2018 at 1:28 PM ^

Maybe that's the point. The analysts can look into opposing defenses (especially if they have experience on those teams in the past) and the breadth of offensive philosophies can inform how best to attack a particular opponent in a given week.

Just a guess on my part.

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umchicago

January 20th, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^

maybe JH is getting former insiders of our main rivals to possibly gain an extra edge next year.

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Mr Miggle

January 20th, 2018 at 1:29 PM ^

He was a co-OC under Urban Meyer running Meyer's offense. What he has is knowledge about how that offense works. He was a coach for a long time at quite a few stops before OSU.

Good coaches shouldn't be shoehorned into some specialty. Good coaches can typically coach different positions, different schemes and players with different skill sets. What they bring is knowledge and an ability to teach and recruit.

There are some exceptions, of course, but Warriner is typical in that he's had experience with teams running a variety of offenses.

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ThatTCGuy

January 20th, 2018 at 2:34 PM ^

I don't think Warinner will have much of an issue meshing with the current staff. He didn't really run the offense at OSU (that was Herman/Beck with Urban's playbook), but his OLs there ran a lot of the gap schemes that the current staff likes to run.

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MWolverine7

January 20th, 2018 at 1:13 PM ^

Does anyone know if Jamie Morris made any comments regarding further changes to the offensive staff yesterday? Someone on another board stated Jamie insinuated the change would not be minor.

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Clarence Boddicker

January 20th, 2018 at 1:17 PM ^

Potentially, Enos steps in for Hamilton, and Warinner for Drevno. Add Mike Hart to coach running backs...somehow.

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Toby Flenderson

January 20th, 2018 at 1:19 PM ^

Not to be mean, but what is the reason that we want Mike Hart to coach RB's, other than the fact he went to Michigan?

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330blue

January 20th, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^

In his freshman year I believe, someone asked him what he wanted to do after football. He said his goal was to be head coach at Michigan someday. Sure enough after his playing days he got into coaching. Really it’s all about rooting for him to succeed and maybe just maybe he will reach his goal someday.

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Hotel Putingrad

January 20th, 2018 at 2:42 PM ^

he'll succeed Harbaugh

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evenyoubrutus

January 20th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^

Interesting. I think I had the same goal my freshman year of college. So do we both have an equal chance?

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m83econ

January 20th, 2018 at 1:41 PM ^

Because you're not really putting any effort in on your own

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Clarence Boddicker

January 20th, 2018 at 1:55 PM ^

Recruiting.

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A Lot of Milk

January 20th, 2018 at 2:41 PM ^

He's not a random coach's son who has never played the position before

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umchicago

January 20th, 2018 at 3:40 PM ^

he was a great all around RB that also was a great blocker. i would take that track record over our current RB coach.

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FrozeMangoes

January 20th, 2018 at 3:46 PM ^

At Western. He recruited well and WMU rarely fumbled while he was there. How much of that was Fleck finding talent above MAC level and how much was Hart? I don't know. But, I don't think he's just a name bc he played at UM.

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