OT: Game of Thrones S7 E3- The Queen's Justice
Nah that is a picture of Euron with Cersei on the night of their wedding.
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finger in the butt
I'm gonna miss Lady Olenna. She was the best.
that was one hell of an exit.
I killed your son. Make sure you tell his mom that I did it.
Glad they did right be her on her way out.
They may have killed her off, but man oh man did she have one HELL of an exit, warning Jaime that his sister is a disase who will be the doom of them all.
"Tell Cersei. I want her to know it was me." In the words of Rick James, that was cold-blooded. Even though Olenna is gone, this will haunt Cersei for the rest of her days, knowing that Jaime convinced her to give a quick and painless death to the killer of her firstborn son.
The rift between Jaime and Cersei is going to continue to widen.
it's way past due.
Looks like Bronn isn't ever going to have the bad cat.
from the sky, the Dothraki would get slaughtered by a disciplined army with armor, so it should be interesting to see how it gets sorted out. One thing is for certain, Cersei and Jaimie are scooping up prime territory and money(the Tyrells were the richest family in Westoros since the Lannister mines dried up), so they've got the gold to buy the army they need now.
And, it also looks like Dany does in fact NEED Jon Snow now that the vast majority of her army is either cut off or slaughtered, so he's finally got some leverage.
And then you have Littlefinger, who's in charge of arguably the best troops left in Westeros in the Knights of the Vale, and he made it clear in his speech to Sansa that he's sees everyone as an enemy and friend(depending on what he wants), and plays out every scenario possible in his head all the time. With power shifting back to the Lannisters, it will be interesting to see if he flips his allegiance once again.
We will probably find out Littlefinger has sacked Winterfell, killed Sansa and pledged allegiance to Cersei via Star Wars style scrolling text before the next episode.
That way maybe we could watch Dany become Khaleesi for the third time or something else that's really cool.
I agree with this:
"the Dothraki would get slaughtered by a disciplined army with armor"
Depends on the ground, on the leadership.... armored knights have a mixed history against horse fighters like the Dothraki; who I believe are supposed to be some amalgam of plains indian and mongol. I'm not sure the Dothracki are undisciplined.
Now, unless they have siege engines, castles will be a problem.
The plot is now moving faster than Euron's fleet. Which is a problem. They needed more episodes for this to make sense. Randall Tarly's scene a couple episodes back wasn't enough to justify him turning on the Tyrells. Euron's fleet apparently teleports all over Westeros after being created out of thin air. It's still a wonderfully acted show and the production elements are second to none and all of the conflicts (internal and external) that involve Starks are really good, but the plotting and especially the pacing are kinda messed up right now.
The worst is you can see the writers needing to get Jon and Dany north (and fucking). Never good when you can see the writers' hands at work.
they are really taking a lot of creative license with the amount of time it takes to travel anywhere
Right. Armies and fleets are moving all over Westeros fighting battles and sieges galore, except the army of the dead. They should've been through the wall and South to Dorne and back by now. Yet the Night King seems to be just dawdling about waiting for John Snow to travel back and forth from Dragon Stone to get dragon glass to make weapons to fight him with.
Anyway, still great episode. Love the twists and turns of fortune. Can't wait to see how this wraps up in the next few episodes.
Army of the dead has been slow moving the entire series. They were at the Fist of the First Men in season 2. Hardhome in season 5. They could have easily been at the wall now. But they can't get past the wall until something happens (maybe Bran going past, but I think it's something else).
My guess is generally they can only survive in cold weather. It may take longer for the weather to reach south on a more consistent basis.
I think so to. Like the Army of the Dead was able to enter the cave of the three-eyed raven because Bran was inside of it when he marked him in a vision. I don't think Bran is just some key for them to enter whatever threshold he crosses from here on out. Otherwise, wouldn't Bran see was crossing the wall mean and just sacrifice himself for the good of the people of Westoros?
I'm not even disagreeing but recognize you're taking issue with what would be the required, real-world time expenditure on the part of armies traveling to and fro as depicted on a show centered largely around the oncoming ice zombie apocalypse...
At least show a map with pictures of army & ship and dotted lines showing the routes.
Its not that people want to see boat sail or horses plodding along. But I would have liked some build-up to Lady Olenna's demise or the Unsullied taking Casterly Rock (and then being ambushed by Euron). Instead, it happened in around 3 minutes.
Meanwhile, last season how many episodes worth of minutes did we waste on Ramsey (who we already knew was a sadistic nutjob and everyone knew was going to die), Arya (whose "Faceless Men" arc was a total snooze all the way through seasons 5-6) and Dany (who did all the same things she had already done in previous seasons)?
Sure, they were main players, but wasn't there a whole season without Bran? His arc has survived just fine.
Its a highly entertaining show, but I feel like its been slipping since season 4 outside of a couple key characters and episodes.
August 1st, 2017 at 12:13 AM ^
Yeah once they completely got away from the books, the show started slipping.
I very much want to know why the fuck Randall Tarly betrayed the Tyrells. That's the kind of development which is hugely important (Tyrells had a mostly still together huge army and Tarly himself is the best living commander in Westeros, even defeated Robert) and we needed to better understand his character for it to make sense. Instead he's been in like two scenes before? We need that stuff and then I'd be better able to deal with Euron's teleporting fleet via suspension of disbelief.
But when unbelievable things are happening within the context of the show AND characters behave in ways that are bizarre to facilitate plot developments, then things are getting very shaky, writing wise. Still brilliant performances and great production design in every aspect, but the writing (particularly the plotting, small character development scenes are usually still pretty good) has always been the weakest part of this show and when they don't have guidance from GRRM and Benioff and Weiss write it themselves, it gets worse.
with all of this.
The way this season has gone is why I disliked season 6 in comparison to the rest of the show.
The events of last season probably could have been contained in 6-8 episodes (you could have cut Dany, Arya and Ramsey's screen time in half at the very least). This season would be great with 10, but now they have to rush to get to Dany and Jon prepping to fight the White Walkers in seven episodes (before waiting two years for the final six episodes, yay!).
We've now seen a guy who had what, five minutes of screen time last season (all series in fact) destroy 2/3 of Dany's forces in two episodes? The Greyjoys, Tyrells, Unsullied and Dorne defeated in 1.1 episodes?
By the way, I'm calling it: there will be only one wounded dragon left to head north. Cersei will kill two before being roasted.
How are the Unsullied defeated ? At worst they are in poor tactical position.
Aren't they surrounded with no supplies in a castle?
Yes and without a fleet to escape in. If they leave the castle, even by the sewers, they will be on foot without supplies.
They seized it very quickly, probably before any of the defenders could burn the provisions. Using what Sansa has stored up in Winterfell as a benchmark (enough to last a year), there is probably more than enough in Casterly Rock to supply the now-reduced force of the Unsullied for a long time.
I'm pretty sure Jaime said they took all the supplies from the castle. That was part of the plan.
My bad, missed that.
that Dorne itself shouldn't even be defeated, right? They captured Ellaria and the sand snakes heading home from Dragonstone, but the strength of Dorne should still be alive and well in Dorne. There are apparently no Martell's remaining, but no reason someone else couldn't take up command.
That was also a major plot hole that looks like it'll be glossed over.
It wasn't just the scene from this season that justifies him turning on the Tyrells. It was well estrablished in last season that Randall Tarly hates foreigners when Sam brought Gilly to Horn Hill.
the preview scene of a dragon flying ALONE in the clouds without a rider has me hoping Bran's warging abilities are going to come into play. But that's probably wishful thinking
I think some of the crazy she inherited is finally starting to come out.