OT: Game of Thrones S7 E3- The Queen's Justice
1. Body double or no body double for Cersei getting out of bed?
2. Odds on Jon nailing Dany before the end of the season?
Likely a body double because Lena's breasts are not that large. Jon and Daenerys will not have sex, especially when Bran informs him that he is her nephew and the rightful king of Westeros.
Better questions: will Jaime kill Cersei before the season ends? How many Lannisters survive the season? How will Tarly die? Will Euron ever bed Cersei? Who will Arya kill next?
I will guarantee you they won't have sex. It doesn't make sense for that to happen at this point in the show.
have traditionally married in the family. They both want to be King/Queen. Marriage would allow that to happen. It might make more sense for that to happen than not at this point.
She's his aunt isn't she?
Right, but that might prevent the writers from having Dany bang her brother's son.
right, that'd just be too low for the writers to stoop. raping your sister is one thing, but banging your nephew??? a bridge too far, my friend.
That wasn't my point. Cersei and - to a lesser extent - Jaime are villains. Having them in an incestuous relationship isn't as big of a deal as having Dany and Jon in an incestuous relationship, especially since there isn't a whole lot of time for romance given the current climate of the show. Do they really want us to watch our hero Jon Snow plow his aunt?
you may be drawing far too traditional lines between good and bad for GoT
Approximately the female half of the planet wants to watch Jon Snow plow somebody. I don't think they'd care if it's his TV aunt.
Come on, 1/2 of us watch for the plots the other for the Sunday night sex and nudity. Have to admit, its a winning combo. Kind of like The Sopranos, always great, but could never get enough Bada Bing!
1. Body Double and looks like same one from two seasons ago. For reference, watch The 300.
2. 6:5 or something similar, it's totally happening and I already feel pre-icky about it.
I dunno, man... After that introduction and first couple of conversations? I can't see them sexing it up before season's end. But at the rate armies and navies get around, why not? The only question is whether they find out thier kin before it happens - if they do, no sex. If not, they'll need fresh sheets for the bed...
Why would they have sex? They just met for the first time ever. There is a small amount of episodes left. They need to wrap the story soon. She is finally within striking distance of Cersei. I think the last thing on Daenerys' mind is fucking the king of the north after just meeting him. The same can be said for Jon. He is desperately pressed for time at this point. The guy came there to mine dragon glass. I have a feeling people who think they will bang simply want it to happen because Emilia Clarke is hot (and she is).
She has made it clear in the past that she wants to marry for political purposes. Thats why she told her Fboy to stay in Mereen. The king of the North happens to be visiting. Get hitched, bang, kill white walkers, everyone wins.
For your timing concerns they can have a shotgun wedding. Davos can read them their vows. Bonus, we can see if davos learned how to read (RIP Shireen).
I just don't see it happening. There are two possible outcomes: 1) Jon will become king. Daenerys will either be killed or step aside after learning that Jon has the rightful claim to the throne (doesn't seem likely after what she has been working for, she is set on being queen). 2) Jon doesn't want the throne. He made it clear that he never wanted or asked to be name king of the north. Jon accepted the role because he knows his people believe in him and he is a strong leader. I have a feeling the second option is more likely. Daenerys will become the queen of Westeros and name Jon the warden of the north or some other high position. Jon doesn't strike me as a guy who wants the responsibility of being the one true king.
I completely hear everyone boggling at Euron's (and Jonny S's) plot-driven ability to sail halfway around a continent in one episode and how it doesn't really ring true. However, if any of you have ever played the "A Game of Thrones" Fantasy Flight board game, the gerrymandering of the sea zones is so absurd that gallivanting such absurd distances by ship merely gave me a chuckle.
About that...they never showed who was at Casterly Rock destroying the Unsullied ships. Obviously it's Euron's fleet, but the fleet could have been split. We don't know if Euron was there. Part of the fleet could have been there while the other was still in King's Landing.
I generally think complaints about characters traveling vast distances on the show overblown because it's not like everything in the episodes has to happen chronologically (since they jump all over the world), or at least we don't know how much time might have passed. This particular instance tho I think is pretty egregious.
I completely agree with you about knowing how much time has passed between events. That is why this never seems to bother me with any show or movie. I just sit back and enjoy what I'm watching. Sitting there and analying, looking for plot holes just isn't in me. I don't understand how people can think like that when watching a fictional movie or show.
chronologically, and there is no way to tell how much time actually has lapsed unless something happens to link plotlines. In this episode, Varys finds out about the ambush on Yara's fleet at the moment Jon and Dany first meet. Varys would have found out about this very soon after Euron marched through King's Landing which links those two events as having happened at approx the same time.
From there, Euron's fleet sailed all the way to Casterly Rock, and Jaime marched all the way to Highgarden. So it's reasonable to think Jon has made a lot of mining progress while that was all happening. Not sure if Dany is lending ships for transport, but that could have also been acheived in that time. Wonder if we'll find out next episode.
I like the story. But I'm getting tired of the heymakers/complete reversal of fortune all the time. Euron's fleet comes out of nowhere and just kicks ass on EVERYTHING. Last season the Vale comes out of nowhere and kicks ass. The Lannister army is apparently just awesome despite being bled, spread thin, and at war for several years. I kind of want them to get on with the narrative here and deal with the threat up north. I also hate Cersei.
I imagine the "Lannister army" isn't just the Lannisters at this point. Tarly was riding with Jaime and I imagine he has a sizable force at his disposal. Also plenty of Lannister bannermen and other lesser houses will be helping out as well, I would think.
I think this was one of the points they were making by showing Brann in the shot next to Jamie. The Lannisters are using allies and sellswords in their vanguard. But I guess if you're gonna ride and die with a sell sword it might as well be the best in the Seven Kingdoms.
but sellsword armies are going to be tough to maintain. The reach was supposedly fresh. The defection of Tarly does help explain that.
I don't understand why they just didnt' land the whole blood army at Highgarden. There was food for it there, and they could have integrated the Tyrell Army right from the get go.
And now what happens with Dorne? Its an entire region left leaderless. Presumably it still has some military power? I'm guessing that they'll just get written out of the show but it will bug me if they don't explain it.
Now we're almost at a stalemate. Unsullied are stuck in Casterly rock with no provisions. Dany is stuck on Dragonstone without a fleet to get her troops to the mainland. The Lannisters now have tons of money and food but arguably some serious rebuilding. Dorne is (?). The North is damaged, but likely could hold the neck against all. But the Vale is a giant wildcard. Their army is in the North with the most fickle of leaders.
The Tyrell's were supposed to siege King's Landing, but they never got the chance to go there. I suspect the lack of Randall Tarly in her back pocket probably threw that plan into turmoil. The Unsullied was sent to Casterly Rock to beat the perception that Dany would use foreigners to burn and rape Westeros.
But it all backfired, and now Dany only has the Dothracki hoards and her dragons.
I've heard anywhere from 50K to 100K.
Season one Drogo's had the largest khalasar at around 40k, which included non-fighters as well. It would make sense if she had close to 50k fighters after killing the Khals at the end of season 6.
Why does everyone think Dorne was defeated? The ships that Euron destroyed were on their way to Dorne to transport the army. The army is still intact...just sitting in Dorne.
The only baffling thing to me is how easily Highgarden was defeated. Bunch of flower pansies.
Dorne is headless. Who rules now? Tristaine, The Sand Snakes, Ellaria, Oberyn, and Doran are all dead.
I'm thinking mainly that with the need to tie crap up, and the unpopularity of the Dornish part of the show to some, they writers are going to call Dorne good.
Instead of Davos simply introducing Jon as Da Kingadanorf, he should have busted out into a Ric Flair-esque rant about who he is:
HE'S THE WHITE WALKER-SLAYIN', BASTARD BAD-ASS, YGRITTE-SMASHIN', WOOOH! BOLTON-BASHIN', NEVER DYIN', STYLIN' AND PROFILIN', PRINCE WHO WAS PROMISED!
Was Bran emotionless towards Sansa because he's already seen her betray Jon?
I think he's emotionless because he knows that nothing is more important than stopping the Night King. Now that he's the Three Eyed Raven, family doesn't matter. Friendships don't matter. Just stopping the Army of the Dead.
This is likely the reason and makes the most sense.
pretty quick to proclaim Bran as the one true heir of Winterfell.
Cersei / Ramsey ruined her.
August 1st, 2017 at 12:48 PM ^
'I'm the three eyed Raven'
Who told you that?
'The three eyed Raven'
I thought you said you were...'
'It's difficult to explain...'
No, its not actually. Especially in a world used to titles. 'See, Sansa, its kind of a title like High Septon or King's Justice... I just inherited it from this guy who died...'
Ta Da! Explained.
I know I'm being petty, but that was a stupid conversation and a waste of screen time in a show that has precious little of it left.
I mean, he is pretty much helpless. He's on Dragonstone with a few men and absolutely needs the dragonglass immediately so he can get back to Winterfell and prepare to fight the Army of the Dead. And he knows what he's saying sounds ridiculous, especially when the South has always considered the North to be an odd and superstitious people.
August 1st, 2017 at 12:46 AM ^
Heard on news tonight that HBO has been hacked and there is a good chance that some future episodes of GoT may have been compromised and/or potentially may be leaked. Biggest Hollywood hack since SONY.