4.46 for Darboh.....4.47 for Chesson!!!

Submitted by MichiganMan14 on March 4th, 2017 at 10:56 AM
Great times for both receivers! Get paid young fellas. Braden ran great yesterday as well at nearly 5.0. Terrific start for our boys!!!!

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gobluedave

March 4th, 2017 at 11:08 AM ^

was expecting better by chesson. I think that's a great time by darboh. he's got better hands and an extra 10 lbs on chesson. I hope chesson gets drafted he seems like a real good dude.

Mongo

March 4th, 2017 at 11:12 AM ^

17 bench reps and 4.46 forty ... plus he looks great on video, very fluid... measureables are top-end for WO's - good wing span plus nearly 10" hands. Going to get a big$ contract - could go early 2nd round.

ElBictors

March 4th, 2017 at 11:27 AM ^

It's proven pure 40 times don't matter - ask the Raiders after 20yrs drafting that way. But ...Darboh is only helping himself in the order and for a WR, it could definitely mean more money. I can see both making NFL rosters and playing a few years but I'd bet Darboh is the better all around Pro.

Avant'ish

SC Wolverine

March 4th, 2017 at 12:15 PM ^

What our three losses showed was the paramount importance of quarterback play.  Wilton was terrible vs. Iowa and OSU (when he was injured).  I think that with a lesser overall team we may perform better this coming year if Wilton takes a major step up.

Hard-Baughlls

March 4th, 2017 at 12:33 PM ^

The three losses proved what happens when you have an average O-line.  You can cover up a lot of other deficiencies - of which we have had very few this year - except O-line.

No QB will be perfect all game, every game, all year.  Speight was very good this year, and there was only 1 Deshawn Watson in the NCAA this year.  We beat Iowa and OSU with 1 first down to salt away the game.

Now the OSU game was also a complete robbery by the refs, but a better O-line and we salt that one away too.

All that said, Bama's or Clemson's D-line would have destroyed our O-line had we met either in the playoff.  After watching what FSU's D-line did to us, I felt much less annoyed about not making the playoff.

We lost 3 games by a total of 4 points, but with a good to great O-line, we roll through that schedule.

havkarl

March 4th, 2017 at 12:51 PM ^

story line if refs call the 4th down stop, or the last Iowa interception doesn't freakishly bounce into the defensive back. Neither season/game defining plays had anything to do with the OL. They would have been (probably should have still been) in the playoffs.

Idk, you might still have the opinion that our OL needs to improve? I hope they do, too. But it def didn't cost them three losses.

havkarl

March 4th, 2017 at 12:54 PM ^

To clarify, they definitely didn't win any games for them. Maybe a contributor for several running plays being stopped shorter than they should have been. But I actually thought the pass pro was decent for most of the year (except against FSU!).

Richard75

March 4th, 2017 at 1:23 PM ^

You could also say we salt that game away if the QB doesn't fumble the snap on the OSU 1, throw a pick-6, etc.

The OL was obviously disappointing (especially against FSU), but come on—the QB play wasn't "very good" by any stretch at the end of the year.

The Oracle

March 4th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^

Speight wasn't "very good." He was mediocre, playing well against lesser opponents and poorly in the toughest games. The offensive line wasn't great, either, but an excellent QB would've been fine behind it.

M Ascending

March 4th, 2017 at 2:28 PM ^

Speight's biggest problem is lack of accuracy (especially on deep balls) and trying to guide or aim the ball on shorter throws. That was a major problem even when the O- line gave him time. Speight needs to develop a gunslinger confidence and mentality and just it let it rip without thinking so much.

alum96

March 4th, 2017 at 2:55 PM ^

Here are Jalen Hurts stats vs Florida.

11-20, 138 yds.

Bama won by 40 pts.

Here are his stats vs LSU

10-19, 107 yds

Bama shutout LSU.

vs Washington 7-14, 57 yards.

Vs Clemson 13-31, 131 yards.

Some of you guys live on a different planet.  Yes if UM had Watson we'd probably have won 2-3 more games - there are about 3 of those guys in CFB.   That special of a QB can make up for a mediocre OL.  Speight was no different than guys whose teams got to the playoffs i.e. Bama, OSU.

Did you see some of JT Barret's games late? He was a disaster.   OSU still got to the playoffs.

OSU was destroyed by Clemson.  UM and OSU were in the ballpark of each other.  Short of a Heisman QB who was mobile, UM would have been trucked by a Bama DL.  Almost any QB did.  Speight was fine vs the masses of upper tier teams excluding a few future NFL guys.  The OL was not fine.  Nor was there a special RB to offset that OL like other teams had.

stephenrjking

March 4th, 2017 at 3:00 PM ^

(By the way, that special RB--which is code for "Dalvin Cook"--would make plays that other guys can't make, but even Cook was stopped at the line by Michigan's defense a fair amount of the time. Consistently running for 4 or 5 yards when the team needs to run clock is an OL issue more than anything else).

Mongo

March 5th, 2017 at 11:26 AM ^

between UM and OSU in the game last year? QB play. JT made all the key plays of a veteran leader to win that game and avoided costly mistakes, whereas Speight performed more like a solid rookie - made some great plays, but also made some key big mistakes. If Speight avoids those mistakes, we win that game decisively in regulation. Hoping Wilton takes it to heart and grows to be that consistent veteran leader this young offense will need for success in 2017. I think he will be that guy.

havkarl

March 4th, 2017 at 12:43 PM ^

Underperform for the whole season? That's a very harsh hot take considering many people still believe we won the osu game.
And total margin of loss is less than a TD, having played several top ten teams. Not to mention, I think we were winning in each loss in within the last few minutes.

I would agree if you meant we had a relatively poor games against Iowa and FSU. Or if you meant, "this was the team to win it all. Literally a few bounces ruined everything".

The Fan in Fargo

March 4th, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^

One guy said it best above. 40 times mainly matter in the skill positions like db and wr. I mean yeah they really do help at other positions but football is more of a game of angles and quickness/agility and power closer to the line of scrimmage imho. You have guys like Harvin, Deon and Moss who were unstoppable or couldn't be caught when out in the open. Then you have guys like Robert Smith and where did that speed ever really truly get him at the running back position? Not very far. He was that high knee long strider who could never get going fast enough from the strart to dominate anything. When he got in the open those 5 times he was gone but didn't see it much. That's why the studs dominate the game. Not trackstars.

Edit: Some people don't get out of that stance very good either. Show me where in any sport you start running from a stance like that. I know I cant get up to full speed very quick when I'm bent over and have a hand on the ground. Stupid.

Hard-Baughlls

March 4th, 2017 at 12:51 PM ^

Specifically for college football, teams are built from the inside out, the lines determine 80% of your success.

The 3 most important facets of a great team are

1) Dominant D-line - (UM 2016 ✓)

2a) Dominant O-line - (UM 2016 - Not even close)

2b) Great QB - (UM 2016 - Good, not great, couldn't compensate for an average O-line)

You can win with a meh O-line if you have Deshawn Watson or a generational QB to cover up for that deficiency - See (Cam Newton, Vince Young, Jameis Winston)

Or you can win with a solid game managing QB and a dominant O-line/running game ala Alabama over the course of their dynasty.

 

The NFL is a bit different as there is generally parity across the offensive and defensive lines (unless you have an elite group like Dallas O-line this year, Giants D-lines that beat the Patriots twice in the superbowl, or the elite Denver and Baltimore defenses of recent years).  But for sustained success in the NFL the QB position is essentially 1a, 1b, and 1c in terms of determining team success, as it's much harder to hold on to an elite "unit" relative to the rest of the league (trades, free agency, etc) vs. holding on to an elite or near elite individual that touches the ball on every offensive play of the game (Brady, Rogers, Peyton, Brees, Roethlisberger)