OT: Duke Alum - Kyrie Irving and Sparty Alum - Draymond Green Believe Earth is Flat
It appears Kyrie Irving and Draymond Green are flat earthers. FYI, the Earth is round.
Per the initial podcast where Kyrie unleashes this foolishness:
“This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. “It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us.”
While serial ball-kicker Draymond doesn't proclaim that the Earth is flat, he's definitely not a believer in a round earth:
“Who’s to say that picture is telling the truth? I can make a round picture with my iPhone today, with the panorama camera and make it look round."
I hope Kyrie is trolling, but based on his follow up comments he appears to really believe this stuff. Draymond is a Sparty, so not much surprise there.
Links to the various stories:
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kyrie-irving-flat-earth-draymond-gre…
http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/02/18/draymond-green-kyrie-irving-…
February 19th, 2017 at 7:33 AM ^
a lot of people have weird science conspiracies these days. Chemtrails, flat-earthers, Whole Foods....
February 19th, 2017 at 7:45 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 7:49 AM ^
*** Trigger warning: This is at least vaguely political. I still think it's OK. ***
Whole Foods: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/23/whole-foods-america-s-…
As far as Kyrie is concerned, I'm with MGrowOld's first point (an oblique statement on the current political environment).
February 19th, 2017 at 9:07 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:10 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:11 AM ^
Also, science isn't a fact. It's billions and billions of them.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:33 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:39 AM ^
You are technically correct. Which, scientifically speaking, is the best form of correct.
February 19th, 2017 at 12:16 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^
Technically speaking scientific theories are based on a collection of facts and supported by observation and experimentation
February 19th, 2017 at 10:31 AM ^
As a scientist and an engineer, I feel I should remind people that the scientific method can only be used to definitively disprove something, not prove it. For example, if you have the hypothesis claiming that birds cannot fly, and all of your observations are of stationary birds, that does not prove your theory correct, just that it is not yet disproved.
Now, this does not excuse anyone proclaiming a flat-earth theory (or that a 3-9 season is still a moral victory), but there are other subjects that can be more ambiguous about being proven/disproven.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 10:55 AM ^
That still does not constitute "proof", but it does does lend significant supporting evidence to the theory. However, there could have been (could be) another logical hypothesis that could lead to the same results (I'm not claiming that, but this is the potential arguement).
This is the crux of the method - a hypothesis is valid so long as the observations/data support it, but it only takes one (legitimate) contrary result to invalidate it. The invalidation does not mean everything in the hypothesis is incorrect, but that something needs to be changed in it and then re-tested (thus the iterative nature of the method). Even what we know as commonplace "laws" in science are still theories, in principle, just that they have been so well tested and supported that they are no longer disputed. It's all semantics.
February 19th, 2017 at 8:26 PM ^
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February 19th, 2017 at 6:15 PM ^
The worst part about science is that it makes people actually believe statements like that. "Science is true!" ignores how often real, actual scientists have been wrong in the past and how wrong they might actually be right now. And most actual scientists will tell you that. Science is supposed to question things, not leave the whole world at a definitive THIS IS TRUE FOREVER conclusion.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:34 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 10:43 AM ^
It's been changing for millions of years.
February 19th, 2017 at 7:32 PM ^
...have no place in Draymond's world.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:12 AM ^
found one
February 19th, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 3:14 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 12:12 PM ^
for the purpose of not starting a pointless debate
February 19th, 2017 at 1:30 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 1:47 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 10:34 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 12:48 PM ^
I think the difference is that we are now aware of it.
Cinema is still used as outright propaganda. If anything it has gotten worse with new avenues for distribution. YouTube is an excellent platform for such videos.
February 19th, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 1:31 PM ^
Just don't tell him "the science is settled."
February 19th, 2017 at 4:16 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:51 PM ^
This is accurate. Interestingly, "climate change" is used now instead of "global warming" for this very reason (at least in part). Funding was not being provided for projects associated with "global warming" so the term became unpopular.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:51 PM ^
Double post. Enjoy this instead:
February 20th, 2017 at 1:05 PM ^
It will be political as long as the government is involved.
February 19th, 2017 at 8:48 AM ^
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February 19th, 2017 at 7:10 PM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:05 AM ^
and it bites people of all walks and political persuasions. The rise of the internet has given all sorts of bad ideas a home and a corner of the internet to claim credibility. Anti-climate change, anti-GMO, flat earth, anti-vaxxers, the entire exisistence of Infowars, etc. People do not have respect for scientific consensus and get this idea that if they and 20 of their friends from some blog come to their own consensus that it is magically valid
February 19th, 2017 at 9:14 AM ^
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February 19th, 2017 at 11:14 AM ^
Don't know about diabeetus, but watch out for Walter Brimley.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:44 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 3:15 PM ^
Thank you.
Back to my oatmeal.
February 19th, 2017 at 1:48 PM ^