OT: Duke Alum - Kyrie Irving and Sparty Alum - Draymond Green Believe Earth is Flat
It appears Kyrie Irving and Draymond Green are flat earthers. FYI, the Earth is round.
Per the initial podcast where Kyrie unleashes this foolishness:
“This is not even a conspiracy theory. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. “It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us.”
While serial ball-kicker Draymond doesn't proclaim that the Earth is flat, he's definitely not a believer in a round earth:
“Who’s to say that picture is telling the truth? I can make a round picture with my iPhone today, with the panorama camera and make it look round."
I hope Kyrie is trolling, but based on his follow up comments he appears to really believe this stuff. Draymond is a Sparty, so not much surprise there.
Links to the various stories:
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kyrie-irving-flat-earth-draymond-gre…
http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/02/18/draymond-green-kyrie-irving-…
February 19th, 2017 at 7:33 AM ^
a lot of people have weird science conspiracies these days. Chemtrails, flat-earthers, Whole Foods....
February 19th, 2017 at 7:45 AM ^
What's the Whole Foods one? I tried explaining the science behind "chemtrails" to a girl I went to high school with who incessantly posted about them in fb. She refused to believe it and still posts about them. Some people just have to believe in conspiracies to make themselves feel better I guess.
February 19th, 2017 at 7:49 AM ^
*** Trigger warning: This is at least vaguely political. I still think it's OK. ***
Whole Foods: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/23/whole-foods-america-s-…
As far as Kyrie is concerned, I'm with MGrowOld's first point (an oblique statement on the current political environment).
February 19th, 2017 at 9:07 AM ^
As a Michigan engineering graduate, this statement really bothers me. Science is not political, and should not be politicized.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:10 AM ^
May I add, making fun of draymond green for believing the earth is flat belongs on a Michigan blog.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:11 AM ^
Also, science isn't a fact. It's billions and billions of them.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:33 AM ^
Unless you're talking theories.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:39 AM ^
You are technically correct. Which, scientifically speaking, is the best form of correct.
February 19th, 2017 at 12:16 PM ^
+1 Futurama
February 19th, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^
Technically speaking scientific theories are based on a collection of facts and supported by observation and experimentation
February 19th, 2017 at 10:31 AM ^
As a scientist and an engineer, I feel I should remind people that the scientific method can only be used to definitively disprove something, not prove it. For example, if you have the hypothesis claiming that birds cannot fly, and all of your observations are of stationary birds, that does not prove your theory correct, just that it is not yet disproved.
Now, this does not excuse anyone proclaiming a flat-earth theory (or that a 3-9 season is still a moral victory), but there are other subjects that can be more ambiguous about being proven/disproven.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
Didn't Einstein "prove" his general theory of relativity when he accurately predicted the arching of the sun's rays around the moon after physically measuring them during a solar eclipse?
February 19th, 2017 at 10:55 AM ^
That still does not constitute "proof", but it does does lend significant supporting evidence to the theory. However, there could have been (could be) another logical hypothesis that could lead to the same results (I'm not claiming that, but this is the potential arguement).
This is the crux of the method - a hypothesis is valid so long as the observations/data support it, but it only takes one (legitimate) contrary result to invalidate it. The invalidation does not mean everything in the hypothesis is incorrect, but that something needs to be changed in it and then re-tested (thus the iterative nature of the method). Even what we know as commonplace "laws" in science are still theories, in principle, just that they have been so well tested and supported that they are no longer disputed. It's all semantics.
February 19th, 2017 at 8:26 PM ^
Hell, even gravity is still a theory.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:41 AM ^
The best part about science is it's true whether or not you believe it!
February 19th, 2017 at 12:15 PM ^
could not have said it better.
February 19th, 2017 at 6:15 PM ^
The worst part about science is that it makes people actually believe statements like that. "Science is true!" ignores how often real, actual scientists have been wrong in the past and how wrong they might actually be right now. And most actual scientists will tell you that. Science is supposed to question things, not leave the whole world at a definitive THIS IS TRUE FOREVER conclusion.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:34 AM ^
Tell that to Climate Change Deniers...
February 19th, 2017 at 10:43 AM ^
It's been changing for millions of years.
February 19th, 2017 at 7:32 PM ^
...have no place in Draymond's world.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:12 AM ^
found one
February 19th, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^
Hahahah yup
February 19th, 2017 at 3:14 PM ^
Maybe Draymond and FLWolv can be penpals.
February 19th, 2017 at 12:12 PM ^
for the purpose of not starting a pointless debate
February 19th, 2017 at 1:30 PM ^
Didn't get caught faking data on a regular basis.
February 19th, 2017 at 1:47 PM ^
That may help, yes.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:34 AM ^
Everything is political.
Academia is politicized. So is cinema. Sports is increasingly becoming politicized.. Our entire culture is politicized which in part explains the toxic atmosphere of the country.
Politics has a corrosive effect on everything it touches which is why it should not be on this board.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^
None of those things has ever, at any point, been non-politicized. Politics touches all parts of life and society. Academia has always been highly political. Cinema has always been political, often times used as outright propaganda. And on and on.
What has changed is that there is no longer political consensus on basically anything, no matter how trivial or how historically 'removed' from politics it was.
February 19th, 2017 at 12:48 PM ^
I think the difference is that we are now aware of it.
Cinema is still used as outright propaganda. If anything it has gotten worse with new avenues for distribution. YouTube is an excellent platform for such videos.
February 19th, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^
Tell that to Galileo
February 19th, 2017 at 1:31 PM ^
Just don't tell him "the science is settled."
February 19th, 2017 at 4:16 PM ^
News Flash: the government funds scientific research, including UM research to a certain degree. What it funds, who it funds, and how much it funds are legitimate political conversations, as taxpayers have concern over how their money is being used.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:51 PM ^
This is accurate. Interestingly, "climate change" is used now instead of "global warming" for this very reason (at least in part). Funding was not being provided for projects associated with "global warming" so the term became unpopular.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:51 PM ^
Double post. Enjoy this instead:
February 20th, 2017 at 1:05 PM ^
It will be political as long as the government is involved.
February 19th, 2017 at 8:48 AM ^
Edit: I don't know how to mgoblog.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:01 AM ^
No shit.
February 19th, 2017 at 7:10 PM ^
Oh you're still around? In that case, eat a bag of D's
February 19th, 2017 at 9:05 AM ^
and it bites people of all walks and political persuasions. The rise of the internet has given all sorts of bad ideas a home and a corner of the internet to claim credibility. Anti-climate change, anti-GMO, flat earth, anti-vaxxers, the entire exisistence of Infowars, etc. People do not have respect for scientific consensus and get this idea that if they and 20 of their friends from some blog come to their own consensus that it is magically valid
February 19th, 2017 at 9:14 AM ^
don't believe that studies have definitively ruled out any connection between vaccines and autism. I think that certain studies claiming a connection have been discredited, and that is what it is, but I think research should continue into the topic as many parents have seen with their own two eyes what science purports to completely rule out. I WILL TAKE ALL OF THE NEGS AND LIKE IT.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:30 AM ^
February 19th, 2017 at 9:39 AM ^
gummie bears cause autism I am in deep shit. Had a bag for breakfast.
February 19th, 2017 at 9:57 AM ^
don't know about autism, but watch out for diabetes.
February 19th, 2017 at 10:10 AM ^
sugar doesn't cause diabetes.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:14 AM ^
Don't know about diabeetus, but watch out for Walter Brimley.
February 19th, 2017 at 11:44 AM ^
I don't know about Walter but watch out for Wilford Brimley
February 19th, 2017 at 3:15 PM ^
Thank you.
Back to my oatmeal.
February 19th, 2017 at 1:48 PM ^
Don't know about diabetes but watch out for anal leakage