ND/MSU: Who do you like?

Submitted by MGlobules on

Okay, "like" might be too strong a word. But who do you want to win? I'm kinda hoping they both crap the bed en route to a Sparty squeaker, setting up our game--between two unbeatens--on the national stage.

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DrMantisToboggan

September 13th, 2016 at 8:15 AM ^

ND by a couple scores...double digits at least. Their OL will do enough to stand up to MSU's front 7 and Kizer will be able to throw fairly easily on their secondary. Texas put 50 on ND (OT aided) but MSU does not have the weapons that Texas does and probably also has weaker QB play. Also I am very much rooting for ND and Wiscy to hand MSU back to back L's.

 

ND 31 MSU 17

 

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Everyone Murders

September 13th, 2016 at 9:02 AM ^

Moi?

I would never say "TO HELL WITH NOTRE DAME" on such a thread, because ... well, you know sometimes you get in trouble for using Bo's quote "TO HELL WITH NOTRE DAME".

(FWIW, I did not even see the caption that led to my exile until I was suddenly logged out.  Props to Brian for his "Everyone murders accounts" comment after I got nuked - couldn't upvote it at the time, because, well, ... exile.)

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DrMantisToboggan

September 13th, 2016 at 8:34 AM ^

I have really lost a lot of my hate for ND since the series ended on that blowout, in a year of Michigan football I think many fans will readily forget. Since then, MSU and OSU fans have seemingly doubled down on their terribleness. I have no moral confusion whatsoever anymore when ND plays MSU or OSU, hell I'd even be rooting for ND if they were playing Penn State. Big time ND fan on Saturday.

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FreddieMercuryHayes

September 13th, 2016 at 8:18 AM ^

I think ND wins, but I honestly don't know by how much. Dantonio is a better coach and comes up big in big games often. But both teams have major questions in the defensive backfield. I think ND can take advantage more, and I think their offense is more consistent and powerful. But who knows?



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gbdub

September 13th, 2016 at 10:04 AM ^

Sparty had the "misfortune" of getting one of their least deserving recent teams into the playoff - they were the 3rd best team in the division frankly, especially by the end of the year, and got in because both Michigan and OSU managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Not sure either of those teams beat Alabama, but they probably don't get shut out.


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gbdub

September 13th, 2016 at 12:28 PM ^

It's not "childish" to note that MSU's team last year was not their best. Alabama proved it.

Sparty showed up to play against OSU when OSU didn't, and they got really really lucky against Michigan. Sometimes you win like that, and those wins count just as much. But teams that rely on such a string of luck often get exposed, and the Spartans certainly did in the playoff.

(Lest you accuse me of homerism, I'd say Hoke's 2011 team was "exposed" in the Sugar Bowl, though they still lucked into a win, and they certainly were in the 2012 opener. The weakness of Durkin's defense against the spread was exposed against OSU, though that was more of a failure to adjust to a certain offense, as opposed to their other wins being "lucky")



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Everyone Murders

September 13th, 2016 at 8:28 AM ^

First, our opponents having better records helps our strength of schedule, which helps Michigan when Michigan beats them.  (I'll check with Mad Hatter to see if there is a precondition to speculation on that topic ... .)

Second, it makes beating them that much sweeter, since it shatters the dreams of two generally-obnoxious fanbases.  (Again, I'll check with Hatter.)

But I also enjoy them getting beaten.  I'd be lying if I said I wasn't pulling for Furman weekend before last.

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Hab

September 13th, 2016 at 8:21 AM ^

I would prefer a defeated, despondent, dejected, and despairing Sparty when we go to Lansing.  Wisconsin would be providing the cover to our strength of schedule that MSU was supposed to provide, and I would rather have the harder games at home.

I hope they both lose the game, are both found to have long-lasting, systemic doping programs dating back to the 50's, are forced to forefeit every game they ever played, and receive the death penalty.  May their existences be blotted from the history books.

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GoBlueNorth

September 13th, 2016 at 8:21 AM ^

My heart wants ND to win, I'm tired of Dantonio and the Spartans and truth be told, I don't harbour the same hatred for Notre Dame that much of this board does.

My head feels that somehow, Dantonio will pull another win out of his ass with a less talented team.

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MacaroniParty

September 13th, 2016 at 8:22 AM ^

i think MSU mauls ND in the trenches and pulls away in the second half. I guess i prefer ND to win just because of Michigan's lack of recent success against Sparty, but ND is still overrated after losing to an OK Texas team, and imo, MSU is underrated by most on this board.

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