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09/18/2018 - 10:33am If a Michigan quarterback…

If a Michigan quarterback was asked whether he thought his team better than some other team, I'd hope that he would say something similar to what Frost said in 1997.  He didn't vote in the coach's poll, though, so took nothing away from Michigan.   the "out-hit' comment was far too pathetic to be irritating, and the mythical national championship is no more mythical than many others.

Frost is who he is.  I want to beat his team because they are between Michigan and a conference championship.  Frost himself isn't significant enough to be a factor in my thinking about the game.

09/18/2018 - 9:44am OP in thread https://mgoblog…

OP in thread https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/when-did-umbig11-become-shawn-l-martin#comment-243078484 is straight-up trashing umbig11 for not saying what the poster wants to hear.  It's not relevant to this board. Can we get that thread out of here?

09/18/2018 - 9:41am This OP is the very…

This OP is the very definition of shitposting.  People are entitled to opinions, and you can debate said opinions to their face.  Starting threads just to shit on other posters should result in a ban.

09/16/2018 - 8:23pm This running back corps is…

This running back corps is strong, too.  Not just the core.

09/16/2018 - 11:26am I think he tried hard to…

I think he tried hard to resist the troll that lurks inside every Buckeye.  He has posted here for a while and avoided the whole scUm thing. Alas, the troll is too strong in Buckeye DNA, and he lost all his rivalry cred with a word.

09/15/2018 - 2:13pm Allegedly.

Allegedly.

09/11/2018 - 5:51am You are number 6!

You are number 6!

09/10/2018 - 7:58pm "The university would…

"The university would probably argue that having a neutral 3rd party investigator is enough to ensure fairness."

Clearly the University does not believe this, as it makes hearings available to the accused in every single other type of student misconduct evaluation.

The sensitivity of the matter requires additional protections for both parties, but the right to a hearing seems an indispensable part of due process.

09/09/2018 - 6:13pm You've been here since 2011…

You've been here since 2011 and you are still surprised that people post their opinions as though they were known facts?  Almost everyone does it, and almost no one thinks that the poster is really trying to precisely predict the future.

09/02/2018 - 7:27pm "I'd happily trade trips to…

"I'd happily trade trips to France for wins"

Me: I'd happy trade away a scholarship if it meant a Big Ten championship every year.

I think I am winning in the "stupid Michigan football trades that aren't even real" contest you have started.

09/02/2018 - 3:21pm "I never thought I would see…

"I never thought I would see the day that M equals Minnesota.  Prove me wrong."

I have no desire to prove you wrong.  It makes me feel better about my sadness over the result of the game to know that there are morons out there losing their shit over it.

09/02/2018 - 2:48pm Harbaugh speaking coachspeak…

Harbaugh speaking coachspeak doesn't mean that there were no signs.

09/02/2018 - 12:01pm Michigan is not "currently"…

Michigan is not "currently" paying Harbaugh $8 million a year.  You cannot expect to reach accurate conclusions if you start out with data that you make up.

Plus, you cannot talk "replacement" without referring to what is replacing him.  Is Michigan going to be better in 2020 and beyond with all the turmoil of a coaching change, or better with an unspectacular but still very good coach in Harbaugh?

09/01/2018 - 7:17pm "I'm actually not adult…

"I'm actually not adult enough to watch Michigan football."

I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who is.  The great thing about Michigan sports is that they give you permission to have those intense feelings about something that doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things, just like you did as a kid 

09/01/2018 - 7:13pm No, a coin flip would be…

No, a coin flip would be about 0, because the coin already knows which team is playing at home.  If the game was pick'em, then the line assumes that Michigan is three points better on a neutral field, but the game isn't played on a neutral field, so that advantage in team quality is neutralized by HFA.  +2.5 assume that Michigan is five or six points better on a neutral field, but, again, that the game isn't being played on a neutral field.

09/01/2018 - 5:56pm 10-2 regular season with…

10-2 regular season with losses to Wisconsin and @MSU.  MSU loses to OSU and PSU (both of whom have 2+ losses, including to us), so Michigan wins the East by tiebreaker.  Even with a win in Indianapolis, Michigan doesn't make the playoff.

09/01/2018 - 8:46am Well, here at last, dear…

Well, here at last, dear friends, on the shores of Lake Michigan, comes the end of our preseason in Ann Arbor. Go Blue! I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.

09/01/2018 - 8:27am Let me know what it is, and…

Let me know what it is, and I'll borrow a smaller yacht.

09/01/2018 - 8:18am "for one" is spot on!

"for one" is spot on!

09/01/2018 - 8:16am You can beat up that…

You can beat up that strawman better than that.

09/01/2018 - 8:14am Hear, hear.  Lou Holtz's…

Hear, hear.  Lou Holtz's takes have never been very credible, but he is a great character and common decency says to look beyond the things he cannot control.

09/01/2018 - 7:55am Thanks for sharing with us…

Thanks for sharing with us you observation that, 20 years later, people look older!   Angelique  Chengelis is in her fifties and has retained her looks a lot better than I have.

08/31/2018 - 6:19pm His biggest lapse of…

His biggest lapse of judgement was deciding that he didn't have to follow federal law, OSU regulations, and the requirements of his own contract.  He decided that, instead, he got to be "the decider."  He still thinks that his judgement trumps the law. 

08/31/2018 - 6:09pm Meyer did precisely what…

Meyer did precisely what Title IX was designed to prevent:  he went with GSmith to "investigate" reported domestic abuse, asked the alleged perp if he did it, was told "no," and so decided that there was nothing to the story.  US law, university regulations, and his own contract state that he cannot do this; he has to report even the suspicion of violence against women committed by OSU employees or students, or against OSU employees or students, to the Title IX coordinator.  He is forbidden to make any judgements regarding violence against women on his own.

The report was clear that he was in violation of all these obligations.

Hoke told a white lie to cover for a player who was on his way home to tell his parents he had been kicked out of school.  Remember that there were only three days between the expulsion and Hoke's comment.  Hoke shouldn't have lied (should have cited student privacy instead), but it was nothing on the scale of Meyers's offenses.

08/30/2018 - 9:50pm Except that OSU says it didn…

Except that OSU says it didn't happen, and CS says it didn't happen.  Non-story.

08/30/2018 - 9:48pm She said that Meyers and…

She said that Meyers and company pressured her in 2009.  She claims that she was never contacted by anyone at OSU in 2015 (when Meyer and GSmith "investigated" and found ZSmith truthful and CSmith a liar - exactly the kind of "investigation" Title IX was passed to eliminate). What's astonishing is that the OSu investigation and their BoT and President concluded specifically that Meyer deliberately bypassed the legally and contractually mandated Title IX requirements, but that that was okay.  They didn't even cloak it in the memory figleaf, they just approved of it. Direct and deliberate violation of not just the spirit, but the letter of Title IX - okay.

And Ramzy Douchecanoe Ramzallah not only licks the OSU BoT's balls for this, but claims that Michigan was in the wrong for following Title IX to the letter in the Gibbons case.

I've come around to the proposal of others that a conference that allows OSU, MSU, and PSU to remain members isn't one I want my school to associate with.  Time for  shakeup.

08/30/2018 - 9:05pm "I don't see his resignation…

"I don't see his resignation as a good thing. "

It's actually a great thing.  The Board cannot now pretend that their decision was the obviously correct one.

Dr. Drake, though, is the biggest loser.  He's soiled goods now, seeing one of his own board resign rather than accept an outcome Drake was okay with.  Nobody needs someone who is soiled; there are too many unsoiled candidates out there.

I fully expected Drake to resign rather than go along with this farce.  He had no skin in this game, and would come out way ahead if he'd just kept his moral backbone - there's nothing more a good board wants than an incorruptible president.  He didn't prove to be worthy of his office.  Hope** he has a good retirement plan.

 

 

**not really - I hope he chokes on this.

08/30/2018 - 8:44pm Yep.  No one can fault him…

Yep.  No one can fault him on brains.  We'll always have 2016.

08/30/2018 - 8:37pm Agree about the end, but the…

Agree about the end, but the music was perfectly chosen and the clips were of exactly the right length - they started and stopped right where they should have (and that's surprisingly rare).  If videos show "touch" like quarterbacks do, this creator has it.  Very impressive.

08/30/2018 - 8:22pm Then you are receiving money…

Then you are receiving money for the coins, and money cannot be argued to have "zero monetary value."  If the coins are "free" and have no value, then you are just wasting lifespan on something that can never have value, since anyone who wants them can always get them "free"  instead of paying for them.

08/30/2018 - 8:18pm The dollar is based on, as a…

The dollar is based on, as a minimum, the fact that the government has no choice but to acknowledge its face value for the purpose of you paying taxes or other obligations to the government.

What is the cryptocurrency equivalent?

08/30/2018 - 8:15pm But in your scenario the…

But in your scenario the player is RECEIVING cash.  One cannot argue that money has "zero monetary value."  Your scenario is straight-up bag-man-ism.

08/30/2018 - 8:01pm Yep.  I can tell the NCAA…

Yep.  I can tell the NCAA that all I got from the bagman was paper with "zero monetary value," but they aren't likely to agree as I can exchange those benjamins for goods or services.  Value is assigned by the buyer.

08/30/2018 - 12:33pm You have to control for 

(1…

You have to control for 

(1) age of the populations in question, and

(2) the average "value added' to their lifetime incomes based on what they do in the four years in question.

Total compensation is what counts, not salary.

08/30/2018 - 12:30pm The value of a an amateur…

The value of a an amateur player (in college or elsewhere) is defined by what someone is willing to pay for their services.  Colleges seem to overpay by quite a bit, but that's because colleges don't have to worry about turning a profit.

08/30/2018 - 12:27pm Anyone who uses the phrase …

Anyone who uses the phrase "they (or someone else) are selling a digital token with 0 monetary value" doesn't understand a thing about economics.  If something has no value, no one will buy it.  If someone will buy it, then, by definition, you can;'t say it "has zero value."  Value = what someone is willing to pay for it.

08/30/2018 - 10:10am But you absolutely agreed to…

But you absolutely agreed to it also, so you can't complain.  After all, you didn't stop it so, by your standards, you gave it your absolute agreement.  After all, had you opposed it, I am convinced the league office would've changed it without a problem.

As long as we are basing arguments on shit we just make up as we type...

08/29/2018 - 10:43pm That's okay.  Keep throwing…

That's okay.  Keep throwing that fit.  We don't care.

08/29/2018 - 9:09pm They can shut down the blog…

They can shut down the blog now.  It will never get better than this.

08/29/2018 - 8:55pm Brian needs to be locked in…

Brian needs to be locked in a room and forced to watch Chase Winovich's last interview about 50 times.  How Brian can feel so blase about guys like Winovich baffles me.  If you can get excited about Iowa but not Winovich, you're watching the wrong game.

08/29/2018 - 8:51pm Not me.  I love Michigan and…

Not me.  I love Michigan and Michigan football.  I don't just love winning Michigan football, I love Michigan football.  Full stop.  All I ask is all they have.  If they don't have what it takes to win a game, then so be it.  As long as they gave their all, they have my full and unconditional support.  The players on those putrid RichRod defenses?  They had my full and unconditional support every time they gave their all, even though their all wasn't enough. 

I'd much rather lose than cheat.  If I felt otherwise, I'd cheer for MSU or OSU.

08/29/2018 - 8:14pm I have twice seen people on…

I have twice seen people on other, non-sports fora bring up Better Son / Daughter with the comment that it was the best sports video ever.  Commenters were invariably blown away.

May we see another, slightly happier equivalent at the end of this season.

08/29/2018 - 8:07pm "The point is that players…

"The point is that players are getting somewhat compensated - certainly not full value..."

I love how people have this magical ability to determine the "full value" of football players when the market has already done that, and sown them to be wrong.

No college football player is ever FORCED by the Evol NCAA to play for a college team and forgoe playing for anyone else who wants to hire an 18-year-old football player fresh out of high school.  The players CHOOSE to play college football because it compensates them BETTER THAN THE OTHER MARKET ALTERNATIVES.  

Only morons think that the "full value" of something is determined by the level of concern trolling on the matter. 

If you really think the players' "full value" is so much higher than the compensation they get from colleges, there is a huge opening there for YOU to hire them for more than the colleges compensate, and receive yourself the FULL VALUE of their services.  You will get rich, without fail!  That's capitalism, amirite?

08/29/2018 - 7:59pm "Man the sanctimonious level…

"Man the sanctimonious level of this blog has gone up about a 1000% percent in the last year."

Exhibit A immediatey above.

08/29/2018 - 7:56pm Gibbons wasn't raped.

Gibbons wasn't raped.

08/29/2018 - 3:52pm I'm with you in that I agree…

I'm with you in that I agree that this problem has existed since the dawn of football (at least), but I don't agree that it is worse now because of money.  It's never been about money per se; it's about winning.  The best-paid coaches 20 years ago got paid one-tenth what the best coaches get today, yet all the evidence suggests that cheating was just as rampant.  We know more about the cheating now because communications are much better, that's all.  Money is and was just the way of determining relative standing among coaches; doubling salaries doesn't double cheating.

And I'm astonished that Brian makes the claim that the labor cost of college football players is zero. He knows that that isn't true, no matter how well pretending that it is fits his current narrative.

08/28/2018 - 6:57pm If both M and OSU have one…

If both M and OSU have one loss, then the winner of the head-to-head goes to the CG.  Say Wisconsin wins a very close one against UM in the regular season, then UM hands them their only loss in the B10CG.  Michigan goes for sure, but UW has a chance if the other contenders are less compelling.

08/28/2018 - 5:56pm You must have read the…

You must have read the article I read.  That's clearly not the piece the OP read (though it's the one he linked to), because the linked article says none of the things the OP claims it does.

Of course this is a crossroads season.  If Harbaugh can't right the ship with this team, then he'll suffer severely in recruiting, making a future positive course correction even less likely.  He won't be gone, but his seat will be warm.

08/28/2018 - 5:42pm The problem with your model…

The problem with your model is that it doesn't always give the answers some listeners want to hear. :)

I thought the podcast interesting and well-done. I listened to your preview of Florida-Michigan last year, and thought you caught most of the major issues that eventuated (though somehow you missed predicting that Speight would throw consecutive pick-6s).  I don't always agree with your takes, but that's never because you don't justify them.

Welcome to the board.  I hope you will peek in every now and then, as time allows, and let us know what's going on in SEC country that's not making the news.

 

08/27/2018 - 9:36pm No, what you'd hear is how…

No, what you'd hear is how fucked up that rule was.  Major college football is expensive, and only a handful of teams could afford to give up a home game as you so blithely propose.