The negativity about Coach Harbaugh is irrational.
Here me out.... Through his first 4 years Harbaugh is 38-14. Saban was barely better than that at Lsu and Bama after his first 4 years. Harbaugh has a better record than B Kelly, Dabo and Dantonio did at the sane time. Being pissed is normal and ok, but it doesn’t mean we should want a new coach. Players have to be faster, stronger and more aggressive... all there is to it. Wake up people... it’s coming... this thing is going to be rolling. Cheer up, a new year is upon us.
PS - Be careful what you wish for.
December 31st, 2018 at 5:21 AM ^
Maybe you just need to shut up dude. You know the old saying....sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are an idiot than to open it and prove everyone right.
Well I think you have proven everyone right in this case newbie.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:07 PM ^
No reason to neg you. Looking at your history, it seems your predictions and comments have been more accurate than some "insiders" at this place.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:20 PM ^
His predictions haven't been accurate at all.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:32 PM ^
Agree. It was a very good season. We are in good shape to have plenty more good seasons. I am no big fan of Harbaugh as a person, but have to acknowledge that he is a great coach. He has made adjustments as necessary, and I would certainly prefer to see a more dynamic offense, but the sky is not falling in.
December 30th, 2018 at 11:38 PM ^
No big fan of him as a person? WTF? I have more problems with him as a coach, and I think everyone is losing their minds.
December 30th, 2018 at 10:49 PM ^
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December 31st, 2018 at 10:01 AM ^
You and me both mineral king. UM fans are irrational you would think this team just went 2-10
December 30th, 2018 at 8:29 PM ^
Strengthen your arm shea, but you alright
December 30th, 2018 at 8:32 PM ^
Negativity is not irrational...the last 2 games looked like a fuckin clown show. Losses can happen but looking like we were completely unprepared multiple times is bullshit.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:34 PM ^
Like Osu looked against Purdue and Nebraska? This dude is right. We need Harbaugh cause we wouldn’t get anyone better or who cares as much.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:36 PM ^
Ohio wins big games. Michigan gets embarrassed.
Do you not see the difference?
December 30th, 2018 at 8:37 PM ^
What big games they win? You acting like we trash, so hows that a big game? Last big game they played... Clemson skunked em.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:39 PM ^
Moron, they kicked the shit out of the number 4 team in the country this year.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:50 PM ^
Urban has won the natty and had an undefeated season in his first four seasons. Ffs, he’s 82-9.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:57 PM ^
thats a whole lot easier to accomplish when you have not the slightest hang up about things like ethics, morals, or 'playing skool'.
JH is an excellent coach. remember JH is the true and wonderful ethical twin brother of beilein. bask in integrity and your patience will grow.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^
Beilein wins conference championships. Harbaugh wins twitter titles.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:20 PM ^
Did you know Jim Beilein started coaching basketball in 1978? He hasn't won a National Championship yet. You think he should be fired?
December 30th, 2018 at 9:57 PM ^
You suck at analogies.
Beilein coached backwater schools for 20 years before he got to WVU. And dealt with the wake of sanctions when he got here.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:59 PM ^
Ummm, no, my comparison is just fine.
Happy New Year brother. :-)
December 30th, 2018 at 9:12 PM ^
Meyer coaching this Michigan team beats ND and Florida. He’s a much more effective coach.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:56 PM ^
So stop being a Michigan fan JPC. You have that right. Go root for OSU.
BTW they looked like overexposed, under-prepared, ineffective hot garbage when they played Clemson. Humiliated on a national stage.
December 30th, 2018 at 11:01 PM ^
No. I’ll continue to be a fan of my universities team, if not it’s overhyped coach.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:07 AM ^
if you’re going to pretend you went to um learn to fucking spell. it’s university’s (not ‘universities’) and its (not it’s).
December 31st, 2018 at 7:45 AM ^
Cell phone typing for the win, asshole!
UM PhD. What the fuck did you earn at Michigan?
December 31st, 2018 at 2:33 AM ^
North carolina doesnt play school either but beileins team smoked them ... whats harbaughs excuse? That new dodge charger those bama players get really help em on the field come saturdays.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:59 PM ^
Um, I don't see the guy saying fire Harbaugh.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:09 PM ^
agree.. it’s a fact that Harbaugh is 1-9 against top ten opponents. It’s bullshit.
tired of the apologist.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:47 PM ^
What was Michigan before he got here? Let's forgot how firing coaches every for years weeks out. Especially because the fan base is spoiled and nothing is good enough. 3 ten win seasons in four years and people are acting like the sky is falling.
December 31st, 2018 at 9:15 AM ^
Good point, where can I buy my 10- 3 or worse at Michigan and completely owned by Ohio State Championship t-shirts at?
December 31st, 2018 at 1:51 AM ^
Nothing irrational here.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:33 PM ^
"at the sane time." That's a Freudian slip if I've ever seen one.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:34 PM ^
No one realistically wants Harbaugh fired. It’s preposterous to think that will happen. But my God, he has to do better developing and evolving his offense, recruiting more speed, and stop gagging in big games. He was a legendary player at Michigan, but so far as the head coach he’s no better than Lloyd Carr. Nothing special, he’s not a savior.
I want wins over Ohio state, and national championships more than I want pictures of players in front of the Eiffel Tower.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:38 PM ^
This is exactly where I’m at.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:48 PM ^
"Clemson-ing"
As irrational and shot-in-the-dark as it may be, I hope that's what we're doing right now.
Clemson had boat-loads of talent, and never "won the big one", they always seemed to get beat right when they were on the precipice of it all. They could never win it, and then, all of a sudden, they did.
And now look at where they are.
My last stitch of hope is that that is what Michigan is doing right now.
That this is the last hump that we have to get over.
December 30th, 2018 at 11:13 PM ^
I'm glad you brought this up. I just looked up Clemson's records starting in 2011, which is when Swinney started winning 10+ games. They spent much of this time getting annihilated by their in-state rival.
2011: 10-4 - 14 point loss to Georgia Tech, 24 point loss to NC State, 21 point loss to South Carolina (rival), 37 point loss to West Virginia (Bowl)
2012: 11-2 - 12 point loss to Florida State, 12 point loss to South Carolina (rival)
2013: 11-2 - 37 point loss to Florida State, 14 point loss to South Carolina (rival)
2014: 10-3 - 24 point loss to Georgia, 6 point loss to Florida State, 22 point loss to Georgia Tech
December 30th, 2018 at 11:44 PM ^
Clemson is also not a blue blood program that hadn't won an ACC title since the early 90s when Dabo took over. He didn't walk into near the NFL talent that Harbaugh had and wasn't recruiting near where Harbaugh has for his first few years because he was an unknown wide receiver coach, not one of the most well known football coaches on earth. Yet his results were similar.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:51 AM ^
You said Clemson was a program that hadn't won a conference title in over a decade? Hmmm. Who does that sound like?
And, as we have seen, doing well in a weaker conference doesn't translate to the B1G (exhibit A, Rich Rod). Like it or not, the SEC is the best conference, followed by, in nor particular order, the B1G, PAC 12, and Big 12. I mean which CONFERENCE is clearly better than the B1G? Just the SEC. Take away Clemson and the ACC may not be much better than the MAC or the AAC or the Mountain West.
So, the results aren't really similar at all.
December 31st, 2018 at 10:47 AM ^
It's true that he didn't walk into Harbaugh's talent, and that may be why his first three seasons were 4-3(Interim), 9-5, and 6-7. There's often a rebuilding period when you inherit a program from a bad coach.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:45 AM ^
Alas I only have a +1 to give.
This is the part where people would say that Dabo had Clemson on a roll.
And Clemson's record is really good in this period cause the ACC sucks.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:40 PM ^
each year there are at least 127 teams who don't take trips abroad and don't win the national championship. The trips abroad are a non-issue.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:48 PM ^
I agree. Whatever problems there are with our offensive play-calling, I can't imagine that the trips are a cause of them.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:59 PM ^
Yeah, national championships are rare and too random to be a good metric. Plus, until Alabama's recruiting is curtailed or the NCAA takes action or schools start paying players above the board it will be very hard to compete with them. On the other hand, conference championships, CFP appearances, the record vs OSU, and the bowl game record is the part where improvement can reasonably be hoped for.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:12 PM ^
You also have to take into account, Nick Saban coached in college football 26 years before he won a National Championship at LSU. He's been coaching at the college level for 39 years now.
Jim Harbaugh has coached at the college level for 11 years. He's WAAAAAAAY ahead of where Nick Saban was at the same point in his career.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:57 PM ^
Is that why we lost any games this year though? I'm honestly asking. Can you really chalk up the ND game to not having an advanced offense? Or was it having a QB who had just transferred in playing his first game with an offensive line that had to be completely rebuilt?
December 30th, 2018 at 10:29 PM ^
if you start with the premise that the offense is “not advanced,” (whatever the hell that means), then every negative thing that happens is further evidence of exactly that.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:00 AM ^
Really? Yes, I think we can.
And I don't it's the tactics, it's the attitude. Harbaugh, for some irrational reason, doesn't believe that trying to score the most points with your offense is good unless it's done a certain way.
So, instead of trying to score the most points, Harbaugh thinks that it's better to focus on proxies: success at running the ball up the middle, offensive time of possession, minimizing interceptions, defending the run.
Certainly these proxies are relevant to winning. But the attitude, the focus, must be to score in ANY WAY possible. Focusing on proxies takes reduces an offenses ability to score points.
December 30th, 2018 at 8:58 PM ^
Didn't Lloyd win a National Title at UM? Can't do much better than that.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:28 AM ^
Yeah, I don't get all the Lloyd bashing. We'd kill for Lloyd's record:
- National Championship
- 5 Big Ten Championships
- 6 wins over Ohio State
- Rose Bowl win
- Orange Bowl win over Alabama
- Hesiman trophy winner
- Five Top 5 recruiting classes, including the #1 recruiting class in 1998.
That's a better record than just about every Michigan coach but Yost or Crisler.
December 30th, 2018 at 9:24 PM ^
Lloyd Carr was 6-7 vs Ohio State and won a national championship. Harbaugh hasnt been as god as Carr was.
December 30th, 2018 at 10:48 PM ^
Nowhere close to Coach Carr - at least not yet