September 1st, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
We need to start paying recruits. Seriously. We are at a distinct disadvantage because we don't.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
I said it in the game thread - for me this was the game when the honeymoon ended for Harbaugh. I am done with the trips to Rome, the “enthusiasm unkown to mankind” and the marketing hype that is Jim Harbaugh. His team was unprepared, looked confused and - this is the worst part - seemed to lack the mental toughness to respond when punched in the mouth.
The examples of what I’m on about are penltiful - a stupid targeting penalty by a starter at a position of need, an OL that hasn’t improved from “the worst unit in living memory” level of last year, a holder who takes his eyes of the ball, a QB sliding short of the sticks, a punt returner catching the ball on the five and then compounding his mistake by trying to juke two guys, and wasting time with that clapping thing on the second to last drive.
BTW - Everyone in the world knows when the ball is gonna be snapped. First the clapping, then the QB sticks his hand down, then one-Mississippi, two -Mississippi and then go! If my dumb-ass can figure it out, you bet ND had it down. So will everyone else. You’re making it harder on your worst unit.
Finally, I am putting none of this on the players. This isn’t one mistake, or one poor performance. Systemic failures like this are the fault of the coaching staff.
Honeymoon’s over guys. You need to deliver or pack.
September 2nd, 2018 at 1:03 AM ^
This hurts to read. So true.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:07 AM ^
I'll go with the latter and hope they pack. I don't like the delivery.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:32 AM ^
Spot on. I've never played a down of football in my life and I could figure out the same. How cow people.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:25 PM ^
Look, we fired Drevno and Frey. We brought in a new O-line coach who is installing a new (simplified and better, hopefully!) system. I think we all agree those were necessary steps.
Then we brought in a new quarterback who wasn't familiar with our offense. Also, a good thing, all things considered.
Then we changed up our offense to suit Patterson's strengths. Also a good thing!
But these things have costs. College kids are only allowed to practice a limited number of hours, and if you throw enough new things at a team, there's just no avoiding making sacrifices somewhere. Obviously, they didn't practice 2 minute drills enough. But if they had practiced them more, something else would have been worse.
If the offense still looks like this in a few weeks, let's all panic. For now we should just content ourselves with being very depressed.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:09 AM ^
Scheduling ND for the first game was a huge problem, especially given the circumstances .Game 1 for a new starter....on the road against a top 15 team is not the place to break him in. Reminded me of the Utah game in 2015. Hopefully Patterson grows into the system like Jake did. Wish we would have been playing Arkansas at home today.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:40 AM ^
Patterson was not the problem.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:21 PM ^
Oh to have a real passing game coach.
Good thing Jim McElwain is waiting in the wings. Pretty sure that's why he was hired. And I had read as much from an insider.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:25 PM ^
I’ve tried waiting patiently and giving this time to turn around, but I just don’t see it now. I see a worse offensive line and worse coaching. This game didn’t mean that much, but it also said a lot about what we should expect for conference outcomes. Not good!
September 1st, 2018 at 11:26 PM ^
Recruiting tackles comes back to Harbaugh in year 4. They had to know that the tackles wouldnt be good this year yet we couldnt recruit anyone last year to cover the gap.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:27 PM ^
Really hate to lose hope for a whole season after just one game- but I feel awful (probably worse) just like most of the games last season.
Very disheartening.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:30 PM ^
Harbaugh warmed his own seat tonight. Between the awful offense and the even worse clock management, he really managed to put the spotlight on himself as the main loser in this game. Today was the first time my faith in the Harbaugh plan was really shaken. If THIS team can’t move the ball then what does Harbaugh need? Other coaches do more with less
September 1st, 2018 at 11:38 PM ^
Yup, and who is the OC? Oh that's right, last I heard it was a f-ing committee. Well maybe if they slowed the game down!
September 1st, 2018 at 11:30 PM ^
Not sure this belongs here, but as good a place as any right now.
Can we stop scheduling difficult road games to start the f'ing year!? 3 of the last 4 seasons under harbaugh, on the road against a good Utah team, Florida at Jerry's World, and tonight at ND. We have turnstyle O-line who need confidence and teams we can beat early in the year. What do we get for playing difficult teams early? Losses. Thats it. No upside. Schedule teams we can beat handily in the non-con and dare the playoff committee to keep out Michigan if we can ever go undeafted in conference play and win the big ten. Damn. So tired of playing hard teams when we don't have to.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:52 PM ^
I agree that we were morons for scheduling this game.
That being said, we have several issues.
A slow fat OL being one of them.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:53 PM ^
This is such a bad take... if UM can't beat a Utah or Florida (good, not great teams, I know we beat UF), or ND (time will tell) in game 1 then we're probably not winning the conference. I don't like losing early either, but playing nobody the first 3 games of the year doesn't do anything to help the team's chances of making the playoffs. If they aren't a good team, they just aren't and an early loss won't matter.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:22 AM ^
Depends on the OL. If Michigan is hoping that the next four or five games can get the tackles into usable shape in time for games against teams like Wisconsin and MSU, it makes a difference.
But yeah, this wasn't a great start. I prefer to have a game to get the team sorted out.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:28 AM ^
And don't forget we had to pay $2 millions to schedule this game.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:33 PM ^
Harbaugh made the Michigan "brand" relevant. Just not the actual football being played on the field...Painful.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:34 PM ^
Jesus people...I'm beginning to think this fanbase is ALMOST as bad as 11 Warriors.
I vowed to take a Gene Smith vacation from Mgoblog if we lost this game...looks like that is a good idea.
The sky isn't falling. We lost to a higher ranked opponent on the road, at night.
Put away your pitchforks. It wasn't coaching, it wasn't Patterson...it was what we were concerned about all off season...O Line play.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:16 AM ^
C'mon! Don't tell people to put down the pitch forks! I put all my money into "torch and pitchfork, Inc" after that Patterson fumble. Now I'm waiting for my 401K to really take off!
September 1st, 2018 at 11:35 PM ^
I really believed I could handle a loss going into this game. I realize it is tough to win down there. But at some point it really is "how" you lose. If Don Brown wasn't schooled like a grad assistant/intern in that first half then what was it I saw? If the player discipline breakdowns such as CWin gifting ND touchdowns with a free set of downs with a blatantly late hit on a play the team had stopped instead of FG attempts wasn't a coaching reflection, then what is? Clock management, is that what that was we saw tonight? Was that a team prepared to play? What the hell is all those millions of dollars of coaching salaries supposed to buy you?
Horrible. Embarrassing, and the sad thing is, ND will likely turn out to be not very good this year.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:24 AM ^
There's no "how" to lose that's good. People who believe that are kidding themselves. People hate losing. They melt down with a loss. There is simply no loss that Michigan can suffer where this will not be the case, ever.
For me, the "how" we lost was actually pretty good--a nightmare first half, but the team showed real character and guts in settling down and clawing its way back in. Shea looked really good to me. All of the receiving options seem promising. Despite the protection issues we even hit a deep ball. And Shea drove the team down for a late TD.
These are all actually good signs for the rest of the brutal part of the schedule. We wonder if we have trouble on the road for "reasons," and this team took a real step forward. Just not a step enough.
But nobody cares. I don't care, even. We lost, it stinks. Whatever.
September 2nd, 2018 at 2:21 AM ^
You don't think there is a difference between a close loss between two excellent teams where both teams play well, make plays, but one has to lose, and a loss with a ton of mental errors, an inability to play with tempo when down by 14 with 4 minutes left, etc.?
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:08 AM ^
Yeah I think you’re wrong on this one. If it’s a back and forth game with a few mistakes here and there, fine.
But don’t tell me I wouldn’t have felt better if the score was closer at HT and we showed life of a time that has remedied the mistakes. I would’ve gladly taken a last second score from ND to lose that game if it meant we got our shit together and looked competitive.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:35 PM ^
This will be a 3-4 loss Notre Dame team too. It's not like we just got beat by a playoff contender.
OSU is licking their chops, especially after their new QB threw for 350 yards and 5 TDs today.
September 2nd, 2018 at 1:31 AM ^
Look at their schedule, there is maybe 1 loss for ND on it.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:36 PM ^
Fire Harbaugh. We're still a joke.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:38 PM ^
This was undoubtedly the poorest coaching job I’ve ever seen out of Harbaugh. I don’t believe in him anymore and I really dislike him now. I’m still a fan and desperately want them to win, but it’s just not going to happen. He’s a fraud. We deserve every piece of trash talk that Sparty fan and Buckeye fans give us.
I credit Jim for bringing in new coaches and a strength coach, but it obviously didn’t change shit on the football field. The oline is as trashy as last year and I didn’t think that was humanly possible.
Everything we heard in the offseason about strength gains, improved, simplified oline play, is flat out bull shit. All the money and resources that go into the program, and that’s the results? I now know why so many highly ranked recruits ultimately don’t pick Michigan...it games like this.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:09 AM ^
Did you not watch the 2nd half of the Outback Bowl? That was way way worse coaching than this, but this was pretty bad too, 2 games in a row where our staff looked lost and flat out bad.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:36 AM ^
Yeah the bowl game vs South Carolina was the official ending of the honeymoon for me. Absolutely pathetic performance. This game just showed me how little improvement there has been.
I don't hate Harbaugh at all, but from day 1 I've been singularly unimpressed with the QB whisperer narrative and this game exposed some other coaching flaws.
He needs a better staff around him (which he's willing to delegate to a bit or has better rapport) or it's going to be more of the same.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:38 PM ^
I like Jim, but he's not a great coach. His Michigan teams don't seem ready to play. They do some things well and then they stop and do something different and they suck. No rhythm in their offense. No continuity or organization in their game plan. I don't think he has very good assistants. Also, michigan's players are just not the caliber of many of the top teams in the country. It's easy to see that just by watching some of the other games. Many other players play with an intensity that just isn't seen on Michigan's team.
This tight end Mckeon, simply didn't want the ball bad enough tonight. That's coaching!
Very frustrating to watch. Not fun to watch.
I may not watch them much more this season. I have been watching them for over fifty years. I can't stand to watch this team anymore. I'm sick. It literally makes me sick.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:39 PM ^
Team came out sluggish in the first half. Made dumb penalties and gave up big plays. Offense in the fourth quarter looked like they were walking through mud. Why the fuck are we running play action on second and goal from the two yard line? Give it to the fullback and muscle it in!
Zero explosiveness from the offense despite having athletes all over. Where is the creativity? ND certainly had a lot of great plays called.
I simply don’t understand. Where is the fire that the 2015 and 2016 teams had?
September 1st, 2018 at 11:40 PM ^
The two-minute drill needs some work, eh?
September 1st, 2018 at 11:43 PM ^
Harbs isn't the same guy who came here, not animated, not in command and most of all not at the top of his profession that he once was. What a damn shame it had to happen here.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:44 PM ^
Harbaugh and co. was out coached again. They probably game plan for a run heavy offense and expected their Defense can hold on their ground. But shit happened, and the defense could not help themselves to draw flags, and that's not uncommon when you play road game in your rivalry. Then the running game plan was abandoned, and the pass blocking and passing game design was so bad that Harbaugh as a "fillter" OC cannot select any good plays from his crappy passing and running game coordinators. As usual, the red zone offense suck as last year. Waste so many tall WR and TE on red zone. No jump ball in the pass two years. Don't give me crap about Harbaugh is the OC. He's not. If he was, how can you explain to me that he can call so many good play and creative play 2 years ago and he highly praise Jeb Fisch, and now he cannot do his magic after Jeb Fisch is gone?
What a waste of talent that we have incometent offensive staff. This is on Harbaugh himself. He didn't make good decision on hiring his offensive coaching staff.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:45 PM ^
Like I said before, FUCK YOU warde. You're a shitty AD and a pussy cocksucker. Its clear as day that this team and program will never be what we wish it to be. Oh yea, and great coaching by Harbaugh and company today...
September 1st, 2018 at 11:52 PM ^
concur with you, fuck him and David Brandon who agree to swith MSU home/away game. We are not completely off-syn, when we have good team, we have crappy schedule. When we have crappy team, we have good schedule.
Offering ND the first game int eh series is indeed a cocksucker on already tough schedule. He fumble this hard.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:52 PM ^
concur with you, fuck him and David Brandon who agree to swith MSU home/away game. We are now completely off-syn, when we have good team, we have crappy schedule. When we have crappy team, we have good schedule.
Offering ND the first game int eh series is indeed a cocksucker on already tough schedule. He fumble this hard.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:45 PM ^
I'm going to just take a wild stab here and say that Jim Harbaugh is not a very good offensive coordinator.
I'm also musing about how good Don Brown would be as a HC/DC.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:43 AM ^
Same here. Get a college OC with success this decade.
September 2nd, 2018 at 1:57 AM ^
That was stated by several of the random negative nelly ESPN prognosticators that argued Harbs is done this season and will be starting to field some of those NFL calls. I scoffed last night.........not so much today.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:47 PM ^
I thought the clock management at the end of the game was okay. Yeah they took their time on the touchdown drive, but they executed effectively and scored with around 2:30 left. Defense then did their job, and we moved the ball to around the 50 with a minute left. We had enough time to put ourselves into position to score with little to no time left, just didn’t execute.
September 2nd, 2018 at 4:29 AM ^
Thank you. Of all the issues, time management was NOT one. Had plenty of time to tie the game at the end. All time outs were saved so that ND couldn’t run out the clock at the end.
September 1st, 2018 at 11:48 PM ^
we came out and got our asses kicked, glad I don't live in Indiana. McCaffery looked pretty good though. I was so excited for the season to start, then this... ?
September 1st, 2018 at 11:50 PM ^
Fuck our trash coaches who coach a team that allows the play clock to get under 10 seconds twice with under 4 minutes down by two scores.
its a recurring theme and it’s trash coaching. Honestly the worst thing to come out of tonight. We knew our tackles were trash and our offense would be mediocre. But to fail at something so completely fundamental is a complete indictment on the coaching staff.
if you can’t recruit at an elite level, and you can’t gameplan at an elite level, and you can’t coach in game situations at an elite level why the fuck are you getting paid like an elite level coach?
September 1st, 2018 at 11:50 PM ^
Yay, we’re Texas with a less-recent National Title game and less-recent win over ND. I’m sure we’ll beat Maryland though! And Rutgers, and other awful teams, and lose to anyone with a pulse because oof, they all play football and we play whatever but with Honor and Dignity and gosh darn. I just hope we win 1 road game this year against anyone other than Rutgers.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:01 AM ^
Dude we still have a chance to go 8-4. I mean it's only Harbaugh 5th year. It takes at least 10 to develop and Oline.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:06 AM ^
Its Harbaugh's 4th year.