|08/16/2018 - 12:52pm||I'm not having this problem,…||
I'm not having this problem, but when I post a reply I get sent to the last page of comments not back to where I was. It's annoying.
|08/16/2018 - 12:35pm||"just because this athlete…||
"just because this athlete died Durkin must be derelict seems like a leap" This is right.
"sometimes we do everything correctly and bad things still happen." This is right to, but I would even make it more expansive and say "sometimes we do everything reasonably and bad things happen". However, it is not clear Durkin did everything and encourage a culture were his employees did everything reasonably.
|08/16/2018 - 12:03pm||IMHO, hiring someone who…||
IMHO, hiring someone who errors in judgement is not sufficient grounds to be let go in and of itself. But, if you hire someone with a known pattern of erring in judgement, or you later learn that your employee errs in judgement repeatedly, then you need to do something about it. If the errs in judgement are egregious enough and frequent enough then it falls on the supervisor if they have done nothing.
Long way of saying that I agree with you ALL of them should be terminated. I also agree that it is likely that Meyer isn't terminated simply because he wins a lot of games. Take a guy who repeatedly goes 9-4 in Meyer's circumstances and OSU fires him.
|08/16/2018 - 11:43am||The had little effect on…||
I think there is a slight, but important distinction that needs to be made in your comment. You don't "win" a settlement, you agree to a settlement.
Maybe NU wouldn't go there, maybe the cost to the mother to have Walker fired was too high, maybe "fire Walker" was an emotional reaction that ended up not meaning that much to the mom or maybe it was just posturing.
But, the settlement had little effect on Walker's career because the mother agreed to a settlement that didn't require an effect on Walker's career.
|08/16/2018 - 10:21am||Of course it wasn't…||
Of course it wasn't premeditated. It would take a special kind of sick to plan to push a player so hard that he'll collapse and die.
With all the information out there about hydration, rests, cooling the body... I don't think the standard should be "well I haven't personally experienced this before". The risks of pushing players too hard are known. If Durkin didn't know them, that is his fault.
|08/16/2018 - 10:14am||Not being there on the…||
Not being there on the particular day only absolves him of blame if for some reason the S&C coach acted completely out of character on that particular day. Assuming that is not true, Durkin hired the S&C coach, he is responsible for him. Especially if it is an established behavioral pattern. If Durkin observed or should have observed such behavior and did not stop it, or worse, if Durkin promoted a culture that allowed or even encouraged that behavior, then he is in deep.
|08/16/2018 - 10:07am||I think the conflates the…||
I think this conflates the argument. They can't (and shouldn't) be able to dictate what legal punishment the government might impose for breaking the law. But, they very well could influence the "business" decision of whether to keep Durkin or what his contractual "punishment" might be.
|08/16/2018 - 10:02am||As was pointed out above,…||
As was pointed out above, assuming they sue they could say $X if you fire Durkin or $Y if you don't. If they feel strongly enough about it and make the "fire Durkin discount" large enough, they could very well force the issue.
|08/15/2018 - 1:45pm||Generally unaware, but not…||
Generally unaware, but not fully unaware?
|08/15/2018 - 1:36pm||Most not have been Runyan,…||
Most not have been Runyan, but I thought someone had Bell on that list too.
|08/15/2018 - 1:29pm||Shouldn't it be harder to…||
Shouldn't it be harder to come from the competition level in NM and be successful at MI if that move is combined with a position switch?
|08/15/2018 - 12:17pm||It might to an old guy.||
In regards to point #2, it might to an old guy.
|08/13/2018 - 5:34pm||Pure speculation, but didn't…||
Pure speculation, but didn't some point Smith say he could take down OSU? An asshole with low morals who is a good recruiter and who could take down his former employer are all traits of someone who did illegal stuff recruiting.
|08/13/2018 - 1:26pm||Story says the shoes were…||
Story says the shoes were bought in December, so not necessarily true that Cole had graduated and left the program given that time frame.
|08/13/2018 - 10:28am||Decided they wanted to…||
Decided they wanted to operate out of France again, but not Avignon.
|08/13/2018 - 8:26am||The $37 M could be dwarfed…||
The $37 M could be dwarfed by the impact to donations. The real question from a purely financial standpoint is not whether OSU would have to pay the $37 M, the real question is what impact will firing him/keeping him have on donations.
|08/12/2018 - 2:37pm||Obvious. Guy wearing 1 has…||
Obvious. Guy wearing 1 has to play offense, right?
|08/11/2018 - 8:12am||Not minimizing that Shane…||
Not minimizing that Shane incident, that was bad and could have been much worse. But, it appears to be a one time incident that was poorly handled in the moment. The Maryland thing appears to be part of a on going cultural problem. The other incidents also seem to be on going, long term things. Much easier for me to get past one bad decision in the heat of the moment than a conscious long term pattern of bad behavior.
|08/11/2018 - 7:37am||Last team standing in B1G…||
Last team standing in B1G East turn off the lights.
|08/10/2018 - 11:21am||I thought that thread was…||
I thought that thread was about cutting the chord.
|08/09/2018 - 12:56pm||Such cleverness!||
|08/09/2018 - 12:27pm||Weren't the '85 Bears known…||
Weren't the '85 Bears known for their defense?
|08/09/2018 - 10:58am||Feel bad for him? If he is…||
Feel bad for him? If he is mentally ruined it is likely heavily related to his own actions.
|08/09/2018 - 10:52am||I can see why you might like…||
I can see why you might like Reed. Birds of a feather...
|08/08/2018 - 4:01pm||"College basketball players…||
"College basketball players who request an Undergraduate Advisory Committee evaluation, participate in the NBA combine and aren’t drafted can return to school as long as they notify their athletics director of their intent by 5 p.m. the Monday after the draft."
Sounds to me like if a player is drafted, he can't go back to college bb. So, how does this change things for NBA teams wrt their ability to sign players?
|08/08/2018 - 12:04pm||Not sure about Cap Crunch's…||
Not sure about Cap Crunch's intentions or history, but not being a rap aficionado does not mean one is a racist.
|08/08/2018 - 11:33am||https://news.osu.edu/public…||
Section 1.5 "Coach agrees to represent Ohio State positively in public and private forums and shall not engage in conduct that reflects adversely on Ohio State or its athletic programs. Coach shall perform his duties and personally comport himself at all times in a manner consistent with good sportsmanship and with the high moral, ethical and academic standards of Ohio State and its Department of Athletics."
section 5.1 Termination by Ohio State for Cause
subsection e "Fraud or dishonesty of Coach the performance of his duties or responsibilities under this agreement."
Not a lawyer, but it seems to me Meyer's admission that he lied at B1G media days could well be a violation of positively representing Ohio State and comporting himself at all times with high moral and ethics. Not sure whether that would be sufficient to get OSU enough ammo to fire for cause. That being said, OSU likely is looking for excuses to keep the liar as opposed to excuses to get out of paying him after he is fired.
|08/08/2018 - 11:21am||Just listened to the first…||
Just listened to the first one where he talks to the players that represented Michigan at B1G media days. I thought is was worth the time.
|08/07/2018 - 11:01pm||Maybe I'm misremembering,…||
Maybe I'm misremembering, but didn't Braylon drop a few earlier in that MSU game which was a contributing factor to why a come back was needed in the first place.
|08/06/2018 - 7:25pm||I don't think it is forever…||
I don't think it is forever.
|08/06/2018 - 7:21pm||What is this? Why don't we…||
What is this? Why don't we just let them suspend players whenever it is most convenient. Playing Army or Navy? That's when you should suspend your corners. A heavy spread to pass team, your run stopping NT.
|08/06/2018 - 4:28pm||"The fact is nobody got…||
"The fact is nobody got payed to play" We don't know that is a fact at all, just not part of this.
|08/06/2018 - 3:51pm||If the horseshoe fits...
If the horseshoe fits...
There, fixed if for you.
|08/06/2018 - 2:21pm||Said this a couple of times,…||
Said this a couple of times, but I think it is important. People keep talking about the $38 M that might be owed to Meyer. This dwarfs in comparison to donations (see quote below from OSU annual report). What impact does any action have on donation levels? I think this carries much more weight than how much they might have to pay of the $38 M or what the public perception of OSU might be.
"Buckeye Nation gave to Ohio State in record numbers in FY17, with more than 267,000 donors contributing over $532 million, including a cash total of $403 million. Fundraising activity increased almost 17 percent from the previous record-setting year."
|08/06/2018 - 12:55pm||I agree that the university…||
I agree that the university will be driven by what is in their best interest, but I really don't think national public perception is a primary point of interest for OSU. What likely matters to them is donations to the university. I haven't seen the data, but have heard that donations to universities go up with success in major sporting programs like football. Unless keeping Urban somehow hinders recruiting (but his track record of 31 arrests at UF didn't seem to matter so why would this), I think OSU probably has more wins in football with Meyer, which means more donation $. One could argue there is significant risk in firing him if it results in decreased success in football. Sadly, I'd guess there is more donation money in having a dirtball coach who wins then in getting rid of a dirtball coach with a decrease level of football success.
|08/06/2018 - 12:40pm||If Urban had lost a lot of…||
If Urban had lost a lot of football games, and reported it up to the higher ups and said there was nothing else he could do would that be acceptable?
It is not illegal to lose football games.
|08/06/2018 - 12:06pm||I would guess the real…||
I would guess the real financial concern is not what they would have to pay Urban, but what the impact would be on donations. That being said, I'd suspect donations would go down if they fire Urban, especially if that results in less football wins.
|08/04/2018 - 7:50pm||It is quite possible that…||
It is quite possible that Urban in a different environment behaves differently. If when he first got to major college football and something shady went down he gets called into the ADs office and gets told "that's not how it works here" then perhaps he changes is approach. To the extent he operated in the gray, maybe he does so because the environments he was in emphasized winning at any cost.
|08/04/2018 - 11:29am||Woody Hayes fired after…||
Woody Hayes fired after multiple incidents. Revered by OSU fans.
Tressel fired amongst scandal, also revered.
Urban won so he'll be right there regardless.
|08/03/2018 - 2:58pm||Put this on you MGoBlog 4.0…||
Put this on you MGoBlog 4.0 suggestion list.
|08/03/2018 - 2:57pm||May I suggest "Choo Choo…||
May I suggest "Choo Choo Chicken Eater" as your new avatar motto?
|08/03/2018 - 2:55pm||You're obssssesssive.||
|08/03/2018 - 2:54pm||Technically, you can upvote…||
Technically, you can upvote already. It just doesn't add points.
|08/03/2018 - 2:53pm||So it is now possible to…||
So it is now possible to make a comment to piss someone off, wait for a retort and then go back and change your original post to make them look bad? Of course, they can change their response to which you can change your original to make them look soft to which they can.....
|08/03/2018 - 9:24am||"Meyer has a huge contract…||
"Meyer has a huge contract and if OSU fires him without good cause they will be on the hook for millions of dollars in future salary." This is true and I don't know much about title IX, but doesn't failure to take appropriate action under Title IX, open OSU up to loss of potential governmental $ which could dwarf Meyer's contract? So, if the opposite is true and they don't fire hire when they should have, they are not risk free.
|08/02/2018 - 4:06pm||Both are bung holes.||
Both are bung holes.
|08/02/2018 - 4:01pm||From the website, with a…||
From the website, with a little selective cutting
WHAT IS A BUNG HAMMER?
"the bung hammer is used to fit the bung into the bunghole"
Based on that, I'd say worst.
|08/02/2018 - 2:40pm||Probably not at the same…||
Probably not at the same level of taint, but it was pretty well known that Urban's Florida program had some cultural issues, but OSU hired him post Tressel.
|08/02/2018 - 10:01am||Maybe, the poster is Urban,…||
Maybe, the poster is Urban, in which case starting with "I'm not going to lie" is probably necessary to differentiate from his normal.
|08/02/2018 - 9:58am||Don't like any LESS ??? Isn…||
Don't like any LESS ??? Isn't that another way of saying that like them as much or more than anyone else here?