Indiana, Louisville both got knocked off this week. It will be interesting who the new number one is this week. I feel Michigan will be number 3 this week gut feeling. Burke was featured on lastest BTN Journey episode thought it was good piece on him.
My top five
1 Duke
2 Kansas
3 Michigan
4 Syracuse
5 Louisville
We should be 2
I think 2. Kansas was less
I think 2. Kansas was less than good against Texas. We impressed a lot of people with that win at Minnie.
definitely 2. kansas was
definitely 2. kansas was only 1 point ahead of mich last week and they didn't look good against an unranked team (texas) while mich beat a ranked team (minn).
Syracuse
Will likely jump everyone
In Hoke we trust...
Maybe....
There is very little seperation from the top 10 teams right now. Michigan's win @ Minnesota is just as impressive as Syracuse's @ Louisiville, IMO.
I see everyone in the top 6 sliding up in the order they are in currently with Louisville and Indiana following.
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
Louisville should have won
Louisville should have won that game. It's not like Syracuse soundly beat them.
Doesn't matter...they won
Doesn't matter...they won against the #1 team in the country at their place. They could have looked pathetic, but in the end, a win is a win
Why should Sryacuse jump
Why should Sryacuse jump everyone? Before yesterday, they had beaten no one, and now they've beaten only Louisville, who has beaten no one. Syracuse lost to Temple, and their top 3 wins are, in order of RPI: @ Louisville, San Diego St (neutral) and Rutgers at home(!). Considering Louisville has lost to the only 2 top-25 teams they've played, that @ Louisville alone isn't enough to put them at #1.
Hell, Minnesota is ahead of both Syracuse and Louisville in RPI, and NC State is just behind them. We have a much better argument for #1 than Syracuse does.
Because:
1. Pollsters love
Because:
1. Pollsters love Syracuse
2. It's round robin this time of year
3. Why not?
In Hoke we trust...
Your first too reasons,
Your first too reasons, terribly as they are, might be true, so I can't really refute them. As for your third point - of the 5 one-loss teams at the top - Duke, Arizona, Kansas, Michigan and Syracuse - their respective SOS are 2, 4, 6, 14, 35.
Unless you are ranking "who beat the highest ranked team last week only" Syracuse has no business being #1. Hell, I think Minnesota is a better team than Louisville, and we won at Minnesota last week. Minny has beaten MSU and Illinois, and their only losses are Duke, Michigan and Indiana. That's a far better resume than Louisville, arguably better than Syracuse as well.
#3 in our ranking but #1 in
#3 in the rankings but #1 in our hearts
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Seth Davis just tweeted out
Seth Davis just tweeted out his AP ballot that had us at the top spot. So we may end up being #1 in both.
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This week I think Michigan
This week I think Michigan will be ranked number 2 this week.
+1...
... I think, for the subtle jab at the terrible thought/sentence construction of the OP.
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I was wondering if anyone
I was wondering if anyone else noticed it. It really bothered me.
Syracuse
Honestly don't think we stay ahead of Syracuse. #3 or #4
We're number 2!
Considering we beat a top 10 team while Kansas barely beat an unranked, and we were just barely behind them in last weeks poll, 2.
Head to head in Columbus
Head to head in Columbus
In Hoke we trust...
#2
we should be #2 and hopefully #1 next week!!
Michigan could be anywhere between 2 and 4.
The voters could move Syracuse ahead of us. The also have only one loss and they just beat #1 Louisville on the road. That might actually push them to #2. You could really throw a blanket over Duke, Michigan, Syracuse and Kansas. Man, is that a sexy-looking quartet ... or shall we say: Final Four? Replace Duke with Indiana and it would be better still, for the B1G.
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When you go to any of the top
When you go to any of the top five teams and look at the rankings of their opponents, no one comes close to playing a B1G schedule. Louisville is probably the closest in terms of difficulty.
Click on any team and look at the opposition's ranking:
I think 4. I hope 4 (for
I think 4. I hope 4 (for now).
What the top 5 should
What the top 5 should rightfully be:
1. Duke
2.Michigan
3.Syracuse
4.Kansas
5.Louisville
What will actually happen:
1. Syracuse
2.Duke
3.Kansas
4.Michigan
5.Louisville
#1 Duke
#2 Michigqn
#3
#1 Duke
#2 Michigqn
#3 Syracuse
#4 Kansas
#5 Louisville
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Using The Polls Themselves...
Courtesy of StatSheet, here's the season trend with ranking and vote totals:
| Date | AP | AP Votes | Coaches Poll | Coaches Votes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 01-14 | 5 | 1415 | 5 | 678 |
| 01-07 | 2 | 1553 | 2 | 744 |
| 12-31 | 2 | 1547 | 2 | 744 |
| 12-24 | 2 | 1551 | 2 | 745 |
| 12-17 | 2 | 1543 | 2 | 743 |
| 12-10 | 3 | 1444 | 3 | 705 |
| 12-03 | 3 | 1467 | 3 | 701 |
| 11-26 | 3 | 1421 | 3 | 691 |
| 11-19 | 4 | 1388 | 4 | 643 |
| 11-12 | 5 | 1327 | 5 | 638 |
| 11-01 | 5 | 1290 | 5 | 605 |
My guess is that floor for #2 is probably going to be in the 1550 range for the AP Poll and 750 or so for the Coaches Poll again, so if we can get there in the voting, we'd have a realistic shot at #2 (but there is very little separation between the top several teams, so perhaps a #3 is what this total would get now). That being said, Syracuse beating a #1 Louisville team is as big as our win on road against a solid Minnesota team, so I have to think some votes are sent in Syracuse's direction. I would say the most likely scenario is that end up #3 just based on the point total trends in the voting, although this is hardly the most satisfying outcome.
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#2
#1 Duke, #2 Michigan, #3 Syracuse, #4 Kansas, #5 Louisville
I think the win on the road at Minnesota will still hold some weight with voters. Plus Kansas has been okay at best in conference play. I think the only way Syracuse jumps us is because there is this lingering doubt as to whether we're really "back". I think we're still fighting that perception.
Indiana
Should be ahead of louisville, did louisville secretly play good teams? Their schedule looks much less impressive to me....
I don't care who wins, as long as it's Michigan.....
We might be 3 if they let us
We might be 3 if they let us and Syracuse jump duke since they still don't have Kelly. If not then will be 4. No way they'd put us ahead of the Cuse when they where 6 and knocked off the number 1 team and we beat the 9 best and we where 5th. Also they did it at Louisville.
Syracuse SHOULD be ranked
Syracuse SHOULD be ranked higher than Kansas in the new poll. That being said, they probably won't be. It's good to be staying near the top of the polls. We had a pretty damn convincing win agains Minnesota, and our only loss was to a top 15 team. I think the rankings should be #1 Duke, #2 Michigan, #3 Syracuse, #4 Kansas, #5 Louisville.
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Michigan #4
My prediction:
#1 Duke
#2 Syracuse
#3 Kansas
#4 Michigan
#5 Lousville
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That's what I expect to
That's what I expect to happen as well. You can certainly make a case that we should be ahead of Syracuse and/or Kansas, but I don't think it'll happen. The voters don't watch all the games, and they don't necessarily punish teams for close wins.
Should be 3 will be 4
#1 Duke
#2 'Cuse
#3 Kansas
#4 Michigan
#5 Louisville
I would like to see Michigan and Kansas flip since Kansas is 1-1 against ranked teams and only has 2 ranked games left on the schedule (K State twice)
Third
Behind Syracuse. Beating # 1 on road > beating # 9 on road. Close enough to KU last week that we should slip past them..
Beating #1 is impressive, but
Beating #1 is impressive, but their loss was at home to Temple, while ours was on the road against OSU. It's a very close call, but I think we should beat them out for the 2 spot.
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If we are just going to base
If we are just going to base it off one game, we should be #1. We beat NC State, NC State beat Duke, therefore Michigan > Duke.
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I like the way you think!
I like the way you think!
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Either #3 or #4. Duke and
Either #3 or #4. Duke and Syracuse will be ahead of us, I'm pretty sure. (Whether justified or not, beating the #1 team on the road looks really good on paper.) Kansas, I'm not sure about.
Looks right at 4
Duke and KU will be ahead. UM had the most recent loss, Duke has the K halo, and KU beat OSU in C'bus. Cuse gets the Big East bias and credit for UL win.
We have a tough road ahead (tougher than the other 3) to stay in the top 5.
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Third
I agree with your top five. Although #1 went down this week, I think the manner in which the Gophers lost at home was more impressive than Syracuse road win. Given Michigan lost to OSU, teams Duke and Kansas beat, Michigan remains third!
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#1. Beat a top-10 team from
#1. Beat a top-10 team from the best conference in the country, on the road.
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two ESPN votes for UM
and, ESPN is always right
:)
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/73428/at-the-w...
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Hopefully the voters do more
Hopefully the voters do more than only look at the last game played like all of you are doing. Syracuse? Really? They've played one tough game all season, to a team that was probably a paper tiger to begin with.
That said, I don't have much faith in the AP voters either.
Michigan
Michigan will have a decent chance, regardless of whether it is warranted, of being #1 in the polls. The first place votes should be divided among Duke, Michigan, Kansas, and Syracuse, so it will come down to who gets the most second place votes. I would guess Michigan ends up #2 with Duke at #1.
I agree with this. Syracuse
I agree with this. Syracuse will get a solid share of first place votes from the "oh look shiny thing!" crowd who is only looking at their win against Louisville, but they'll also get a lot of 5th and 6th place votes from the crown who looks at their whole schedule and isn't impressed. Michigan will probably be 2 or 3 because almost no one will vote them lower than 3rd or 4th.
Agreed
Duke
Kansas
Michigan
S
Agreed
Duke
Kansas
Michigan
Syracuse
Louisville
No 1-loss Arizona over 2-loss
No 1-loss Arizona over 2-loss Louisville? At least Arizona has a quality win.
I think
Sabatino Chen may dispute the fact that Arizona has one loss.
Syracuse
Some of you are neglecting to mention that Syracuse went on the road and won against the #1 team in the nation without their 2nd leading scorer. MCW also had the worst game of the season and they still were able to pull out a win.
With that said, I think you can make a reasonable case for ranking Duke, Kansas, and Michigan ahead of Syracuse.
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My guess
is decidedly cynical, but I see Syracuse jumping us, and Louisville not falling behind us, due to the close nature of that game. So, maybe we move up to four.
So it goes.
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