Penn St= A
Miami (NTM)= B
Ohio U= B+
Penn St= A
Miami (NTM)= B
Ohio U= B+
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the University of Chicago campus. It's urban and not for everyone, but the layout is incredible and they're easily the best example of neo-Gothic architecture in the US.
I definitely agree with your assessment of UChicago. They get pretty high marks on my list:
Michigan: [A-] - The minus only comes from my experience as an Engineer and having to take the damn bus every day
MSU: [B+] - Huge campus; the central part is okay but the mega dorms on the east side are horrid.
USC: [B] - Yes its in a shitty area, but Staples center is close, the campus is nice, and their fraternity/sorority row is pretty awesome as well
UCLA: [B] - The main area around Royce Hall is beautiful; the rest of campus, not so much.
UCSD: [C-] - Too new, and no real student ghetto nearby since the neighborhood is swanky. Like a much larger North Campus (in many ways)
Cal: [B+] - Has more of a Michigan feel, which comes with the age of the buildings.
Virginia: [A] - Just beautiful. Ann Arbor mixed with Colonial charm.
Maryland: [B+] - Their campus is nice; the mall in the center is beautiful. The town is way boring.
U Chicago: [A-] - Campus has beautiful gothic structures with stain glass windows. Looks very much like the Law Quad. Just dont venture too far South or West...
Northwestern: [B+] - Their campus is nice but not great; the views of Chicago along the lake are spectacular.
Notre Dame: [A-] - Beautiful campus, though the off campus areas suck. I also couldnt bring myself to rate them above Michigan.
Washington: [B+] - Beautiful campus, though its on a hill which makes getting around a little tricky. Nice views of Seattle (when the sun shines)
Oregon: [C] - I was honestly a little surprised by how Eugene didnt wow me when I went. The buildings arent particularily ugly, but also arent particularily beautiful.
Colorado: [A-/B+] - The Rocky Mountain version of Ann Arbor. Beautiful views of the mountains, cool town, campus buildings are good but not great.
Iowa: [B-] - The campus isnt anything to write home about. The Ped Mall, OTOH, is fantastic.
You can say that again; when I was a senior in high school taking tours, Chicago was my number one choice and I think my mom actually lost sleep over its location.
Hyde Park isn't all that bad (the houses around the university easily top a million dollars and it has the highest concentration of PhD's in the state) but get on the Electric Line going south and you'll have an...interesting...time.
New Hampshire B+
Tufts B- (nothing but houses, houses, houses around it)
UMass-Lowell F (this building is a part of that campus:http: http://home.comcast.net/~corey.sciuto/images/lowell12/bridges1.jpg ... enough said.)
I know that a lot of people don't go for Harvard's urban setting, but I can't agree that UNH is it's equal. Regardless of anything else, I think Harvard should get some bonus points over UNH just because when you walk on campus, you know that so many famous and accomplished people have been there and seen the same things you're seeing now. You can't say that about UNH.
Offhand, I can think of about 3 spots on the Olentangy Bikeway in Columbus that look a lot like that picture.
I can see why they might've 'differed' you
As a fellow Chippewa I hate to tell you that CMU might be a little below an A-, but you're entitled to your opinion. I'd give it a B; take Wayside out of Mount Pleasant and maybe the positive effects would carry onto the campus though...
I love the big school feel on a small campus. Probably right though, the architecture isn't really anything special. Agree 100% about wayho
Very true, people who have gone or go there can truly appreciate it. Not a walk from building to building on that campus that's more than 15 minutes. Plus, the new Education builiding is superb, and the medical school is coming along nicely.
Well stated, Central is defintaly an acquired taste. Also love giving crap to my friends at state and U of M about the walking distances.
UNC A+ (It's Ann Arbor with nicer weather)
Iowa State B
on UNC...this might be blasphemy, but I might have, possibly, could have, potentially liked it there better than Ann Arbor...unbelievable scenery, weather, nice people, nice setting...just lacking on undergrad academics compared to UM
but I found it to be smaller and a little bit dull versus Ann Arbor.
And that powder blue just gives me a headache.
Chapel Hill has nicer winter weather than Ann Arbor, but in the summer it is oppressively humid. I thought Michigan summers were humid until I spent some time down South. Ugh.
Stanford: A (ugh, pains me to say that)
Penn State: B+/B
Harvard/MIT: B (Pretty similar in a lot of respects since they're, like, down the street from one another)
Mich State: B
Ohio State: B (realistically), F (in my heart)
This is great. I'm probably going to be in the Palo Alto area this summer, so I'll have to head over and check it out.
when you head out there. I'm in PA Monday thru Thursday and can give you the scoop on the best restaurants depending on your palate.
In order as I think of them...
Penn State B-
Boston College B+
Grand Valley D
And for reference, Michigan gets a B+.
It might be the B+ for Michigan, though, or it might just be the serial neggers I seem to have picked up. I do see a lot of negs for anything less than an A for Michigan. What can I say? I'm clearly biased. I love how well-integrated the U-M campus is to Ann Arbor, but points deducted for the North Campus and for not really having a unifying style of architecture.
UCLA - A-
USC - B-
Cal - B
UChicago - B
Stanford - A
Duke - B+
UNC - A-
Georgetown - B-
GWU - C+
Harvard - B+
MIT - B-
CMU - C
UPenn - B-
Columbia - B
I think the only Big Ten campus besides Michigan that I've seen is Northwestern. Their architecture isn't that great, but they really make it work for them.
Washington - A. With the campus right on the lake, and completely stuffed with trees and greenery, this is one of the prettiest campuses you can find. That combined with the football stadium being on-campus, is a huge plus. The only thing keeping this from the cream is the rain.
UCLA - B-. It's a series of building surrounded by more buildings, fast food joints, hotels, offices, and more concrete. The weather is fantastic, but the Rose Bowl is several miles away. At least I got to play pickup with some buddies in Pauley Pavilion!
Central Michigan - D. Yeah. Nothing here to see. Seriously.
Western Michigan - C. Meh.
Northwestern - B-. The lake is nice in the summer, and sucks ass in the winter. My biggest beef is that everything is so damn old there. Also, I was there for summer camps, and their civil engineering department flooded after heavy rains. <3 irony.
Harvard - B. It has the charm of an old school, but that's also a minus, as many buildings (especially dorms) are fucking ancient and tiny. Big plus - everything is super close by.
MIT - B-. If everything weren't so industrial and overly urban, I'd have liked it a lot more. Not a big fan of having a 6-lane road bisecting campus. The river does add points though.
Princeton - B. Gorgeous, but in the middle of fucking nowhere. Seriously. There's nothing around except for a Panera and a Starbucks for miles. The nearest true source of entertainment is NYC. Plus, its in Jersey.
Caltech - B+. Small, but immaculately maintained. Flowers bloom year round, as there are almost as many gardeners as there are students. Weather is also great. But there's no major nightlife nearby and the beaches are over an hour away.
Claremont/Mudd/Scripps/Pomona/Spitzer - C+. Small and severly lacking in identity. Nearest liquor facilities are a ways away. Far away from the coast.
Occidental College - B+. It's secluded enough to be peaceful, but shops and restaurants are close enough to walk to. It's a pretty campus, not too big, and enjoys the soCal weather.
Not going to review Michigan because everyone else has, and I can't be impartial. And surprisingly enough, even though I lived in Ann Arbor for 17 years, I've never been to the MSU campus.
Notre Dame: Didn't love it, B-
Univ of Chicago: B+
Wash U St. Louis A-
Cornell is depressing as all hell, like if you took UM's north campus, put it in the middle of nowhere and then surrounded it with convenient suicide gorges. I give it a D
RPI (Troy, NY) is even more depressing, as the campus/the Troy area is not only disgusting and beaten-down, it seems the entire school body is there solely for the scholarship money RPI throws to at least 1 kid from every high school in New York. I got one of these scholarships, visited for half a day, and my mother and I left as quickly as we could. Solid F--
Two that you should see. Both smaller schools.
Point Loma Nazarene University on the bluff overlooking the entrance to San Diego Bay and Pepperdine in Malibu. Both A plus plus with extra credit for participation in choir and student government.
Point Loma Nazarene:
about Pepperdine...really liked it..can't beat the location and pretty nice people (I thought)...
Simply bc of this pic on their brochure
Colorado - A
Air force - A-
Colorado State - C+
Illinois State - F
Arizona State - C for campus, A+ for coeds from April to October
Univ. of Ariz - C
U of San Diego - B
Northern Ariz - B (only bests the other AZ schools because it has seasons and a "mountain")
Western Mich. - C
Central Mich - F
Eastern Mich F+
Nebraska - F--- (admitted bias)
Virginia Tech B-. nice area. nothing there
Delaware B+. cool downtown. still delaware
Cincinnati: A-(surprisingly beautiful)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Therefore, our campus is always an A+ in my heart but in reality its a solid B (its just a very big campus and some areas are an A+ and some are below average).
Re: Stanford and the other highly rated evals in this thread, another family member, my drunk uncle Ted, once told me at Thanksgiving that just because a girl wears a pretty dress that does not mean that she's not a dirty skank....FWIW.
Very confused teenage years has translated into adulthood...
Michigan is not an A campus wise. It's a mish-mash of styles, some of which don't look that great together (I'm looking at you LSA building along side the Union across the street from Angell.)
Every once in awhile the campus tries to get on a roll with the unified look of brick and white cement trim, ala the Union, West Quad, East Quad, and now North Quad, but it is broken up all over the place. The Law quad is phenomenal and the Ross B-school is bad ass, but they don't look like they are part of the same campus.
There is no central main focal point like the sweeping grassy lawn of Old Main at Penn State. The Diag is mostly hidden and a little bit swampy.
The weather is the weather. Eight months of the year are actually decent for a college experience, but Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar are cold, windy and gray. The worst is actually March. Dec/Jan/Feb are winter and you expect winter. The snow can be very pretty. But in March, you are ready for spring and it just won't freakin come.
What makes Michigan rank so highly however is the ultimate college town of Ann Arbor and how it is right at your doorstep. There are prettier campuses than Michigan, but some of them get old fast, like Duke. There are few places better to spend four years actually living there than Michigan/Ann Arbor.
I have to disagree about there not being a main central point - the Diag serves that purpose well. IMO, the walk from the corner of State and North U through the Diag to the Engin Arch is one of the best strolls you can take on a college campus anywhere, especially when it's nice out.
The campus is definitely a mix of styles, but it's gradually getting prettier. (And I don't mind some variety; Indiana's campus is 100% limestone and it gets a little monotonous.) Most of the newer buildings fit in well architecturally (and the stadium renovations finally bring it in harmony with the rest of the campus). The only big exception there are the B-school buildings, which are definitely out of place. The newest one looks like it belongs in Arizona or New Mexico.
I like the variety because you can seperate the schools based on the look. You know when you're going through the law school or the Ford school, or LSA or Ross.
If you've been around it recently, it amazing the upgrades they've made. The Life Sciences section is beautiful (compared to the factory the area used to look like). But if you haven't been back in 10-15 years, and remember some of that awful construction, it might not hold fond memories. I mean, the Ugli isn't even ugly anymore....
hard to be impartial but michigan is probably a legit A- with the combination of a great town and some awesome architecture (law quad especially) the only negative is the distance between some areas and that makes it not an A for me.
Wisconsin - A
Northwestern - B-
ND - Campus itself is an A+ but the surrounding town sucks so Ill give it an A-/B+
UChicago - B+
MSU - B
Hope - B
Miami Ohio - Like ND campus is cool but surroundings are weak... b+
Miami Florida - B+
Indiana - B+
Kenyon - A (amazingly beautiful place, check it out if you have the chance)
Virginia - A+... the gold standard for me
Michigan - A
No need to explain.
Wake Forest - B+
As green as MSU, nice weather, nice campus in general, but no really close bars.
MSU - B
Really green, but huge, and too spread out.
Loyola - B
Right on the water but too far from downtown to get the perks.
DePaul - B
Right in the middle of where you want to live.
Michigan Tech - C
Beautiful, but nothing to do other than winter sports. Also there are no chicks.
Wayne St. - D
Lots of bums, surprised I was not shot.
Using Ann Arbor as the basline:
Arizona St: B+
Michigan Tech: B-
I will never go to Columbus.
Indiana State- B- I currently go there, nothing real special but its real nice in the spring and summer.
Cal Berk- A-
LSU- D+ I just hate Baton Rouge, that place looks and feels dead to me.
Texas A&M- B+
Kansas- A+ Loved everything about KU and the parties were amazing.
Rose Hulman- B- Engineering school in Terre Huate, IN that looks nice.
As a high school senior visiting college campuses have pretty much consumed my life for the last year or so! So here are some of my favorites:
U of M: B+ Has what many others do not... a nice city that surrounds campus. A nice combination of new and old buildings. Kind of big and spread out though.
Northwestern: A- Some people aren't as high on NU as I am. I personally loved it. The campus was nice and it is right on the length. In addition, the surrounding areas are super nice. Negative: its frickin' cold in the winter!
State: C Well... enough said (possibly slightly biased)
Washington University in St. Louis: A OBVIOUSLY not a sports powerhouse, but a very beautiful campus and an ivy league-caliber education. Campus known as the "WashU bubble" since it is separated from any kind of college town. Most amazing dorm area I have ever seen.
Duke: N/A I have never been on campus but have heard it is beautiful! Hopefully I will be accepted and can go see it later this spring. I love U of M but I am sort of ashamed to say that duke is my "dream school" ... and then U of M for medical school!
Ohio State: F For fail.
Northwestern didn't do much for me. It had a lot of the tangibles (very close to home for me, on the lake, prestige) but the campus wasn't all that impressive apart from one of the professional schools. It must have been journalism, but I don't remember for sure. Their union building seemed outdated, but their geographical location is amazing.
It's always "where's the campus?" and finding anything around it to do in the neighborhoods is tough. But it is an El ride to Chicago, so it has that going for it.
I like the more central-oriented campuses. In the two schools I've attended (Pitt and IU) I've never had classes in three different buildings in a semester and I really like that. NU was nice, but too spread out for its size in my opinion.
Speaking of spread out, I absolutley hated the PSU campus.
I lived in or near Evanston for 7 years. There is loads of stuff to do in Evanston... entertainment, fantastic food, natural beauty, shopping and great people. The fact that you can then just jump on the El or Metra and be downtown in minutes is gravy! You must have had a bad host or bad map while visiting.
Columbia: Damn if they didn't figure out a way to put an actual college campus right in the middle of Manhattan. It's small, but once you are off the street it's an actual college campus with grass and frisbees and students just hanging out.
NYU: The exact opposite of Columbia. There is no "there" there. The only way you can tell you are on a college campus is by the purple banners hanging on some of the high rises. Other than that, you can't really tell where NYU begins and where it ends. (George Washington University in DC is like this too.)
Lehigh: The entire campus is built on the side of a mountain along a winding switchback road. No matter where you are, if you look down you see rooftops of buildings below you, and if you look up you see foundations of buildings above you.
Stanford: I mentioned this above. Stanford is more Palm Springs resort than college campus. It is very pretty in a country club sort of way, but it is not very college-y. It does feel like there is money all about.
Cornell: Cornell is one of those places that IS very college-y. Built into gorges in the finger lakes region of upstate New York, it is a spectacular college setting in the fall.
Duke: Duke is like going to school and church at the same time. The entire campus is stone cathedral architecture. It's pretty but it can weigh on you sometimes. There is no break from the sameness. Durham is meh at best and is far away.
Penn State: Penn State is not unique per se, but from a Michigan perspective it is quite different from Ann Arbor. Everything in Penn State is very clearly segmented. On one side of the main road is the university, on the other side is the town. Behind the town is the frats. Behind the university off to the side is the athletic complex. You always know where you are, never the twain shall meet. It's not like Michigan/Ann Arbor where the town and the university are interspersed together all over the place.
Virginia: Virginia, personally designed by Thomas Jefferson, looks exactly what you would think the founding fathers had in mind for a university. It's like a Colonial time-bubble. Virginia is what Harvard looks like in your mind, until you actually visit Harvard and are a little bit disappointed by it.