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|1 day 19 hours ago||Blatant and remorseless move||
Blatant and remorseless move to recapture the Pete Carroll style, approach, and energy at USC. As a fan of the program, that's worth a dice roll any day of the week.
Didn't think this would happen BECAUSE of the close ties to Pete and that era. Felt Haden associated all of it with the lawless past. I was wrong.
|2 days 23 hours ago||Look for Marriuci's name to||
Look for Marriuci's name to surface as a USC candidate. I am not sure if that will happen. I hear so many different things on Orgeron. I don't think they really know and Haden hasn't said much besides comfirm the Del Rio meeting. Jack isn't going there.
Had they looked good last night, Orgeron would be announced this week. Both losses were to rivals and they looked bad in both games.
Might sound capricious, but that's college football. Look no further than the majority of posts on this board the last 6 weeks. It's almost a week to week deal with the popularity dial of a coach.
|1 week 3 days ago||Reality of college football: must build it sustainable||
You ain't winning at this level of college football when you are relying on a majority of guys who are in their 2nd year or less on campus. That's reality.
If people on here think that they can effectively judge what Hoke is doing with this program and where it will end up, I am taking you to Del Mar with me on my next trip west. We're going to make a fortune at the track.
As far as staff, let's wait and see. If major donors push for it, there might be some changes in a couple spots. Hoke is going nowhere for 4 classes and 5 seasons. Reason: the program is right back in the mess Rodriguez left it in unless you reestablish sustainable talent pipelines for the long-term.
A lot of folks on here need to relax.
|1 week 6 days ago||1996 inductee into the Pro||
1996 inductee into the Pro Football Hall of Fame as well.
Arguably the greatest lineman in the history Michigan football.
|3 weeks 11 hours ago||Credibility issues abound on here these days||
You heavy complainers were on his bandwagon a mere 11 days ago talking about his greatness during the Indiana game. It's laughable the level of band wagoning by the completely uninformed that goes on here lately.
There's like 10 or 15 posters who know anything and none of them are lurking around at the 1000 point or less level. I include myself in the know nothing category.
Sorry, but you fair weather gripers just look silly; like you belong over commenting away using your facebook account under the latest gem from Drew Sharp.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||The OP couldn't be more correct on this||
For those of you who are frustrated that people on here can't grasp the idea that what Hoke says to the media is indicative of basically nothing (despite nearly 3 years and probably around 100 press conferences), I'll say what you are probably thinking:
This board has recently become over loaded with the level of insight and thinking that is the hallmark of fans posing comments on MLive and Freep. It's drastically undermining the quality of this site.
Also, if you start your post with words similar to: "while I agree that he can't throw them under the bus, he still needs to", then you actually don't agree that he can't throw them under the bus. Because if he says much beyond what he always says, he would in fact be throwing them under the bus.
So if you want more, then you really want him to deeply undermine the team in the public. When he does that, you'll still pick it apart as unsatisfactory anyways.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||The defense was probably good||
The defense was probably good enough on a day when the offense could gain some traction and stay on the field. The offense wasn't doing that and it got ugly as the defense frankly wore down. Disappointing.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||But we weren't soft going toe||
But we weren't soft going toe to toe with Ohio, VT, State and ND in 2011? What about State, South Carolina, and Ohio last year? We had veteran guys with tons of game experience on both those teams.
Yesterday was boys against men at spots where you can't have that in a hostile environment.
We can argue the talent level of a Barnum or Mealer or Patrick, but we can't argue they were way more experienced.
This toughness stuff is silly considering what the coaches did in 2011 and 2012. Michigan lost to State. A team with a very good veteran defense. On their field. It wasn't pleasant, but with the our current roster, not surprising. The way we lost was the way teams lose on the road when the middle of the line can't block bigger more experienced players.
(ed. changed 2010 to 2011 in sentence 1)
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I follow things pretty close||
I follow things pretty close but I am shocked by this. I admit it.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||It seems like when you have||
It seems like when you have good athletes, pressure defense works at the college level. You run risks but is that risk worse than the alternatives of allowing the opponent to be comfortable?
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Which teams are those?||
Which teams are those?
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I read your earlier posts and||
I read your earlier posts and have been building off your themes. It's more big picture viewpoint, but the Michigan we all want was forged through a big picture approach.
Point of fact, State sucked in 2009 (year 3 of that coaching staff).
Most of the folks on the board are not old enough to remember the last time Michigan had to rebuild through establishing a consistent talent pipeline and program at the same time. That is because it has never really happened. Bo even acknowledged Elliot left him good veteran football players with more on the way. Rich was in the process of attempting it (probably for the first time in program history) but had the rug pulled prematurely. Maybe for the best, maybe not.
The goal is long-term sustainability. If we can avoid a meltdown as a fan base and brush off the verbal crud we'll get at work with State fan lurking around every cubicle, we're going to end up pleased most likely.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Two things about State we could learn from||
First, it is sort of interesting that Dantonio said this week in his radio interview spots called "inside the huddle" that offensive linemen ideally should not be playing at all until they are at least redshirt sophomores. Reason: the playbook is larger for them than other players on offense, including quarterback. They have to know protections based on defensive alignments pre-snap and be able to adjust mentally in a precise way as the defense moves around. One false move and everything is blown up. Especially against pressure fronts.
Second, I knew many State fans who wanted Narduzzi out the door back in 2009. State's defense couldn't get out of it's own way that season. His rise to genius status was far from smooth within that fan base.
We are ticked off and don't want to deal with another year of State fan belittling Michigan football, but it's the price of admission to having a consistent program with a pipeline of steady talent again.
Continuity. Patience in letting the recruits grow and develop into experienced upper classmen. We saw it on display today from the opponent.
If Hoke and the staff ultimately prove to deficient, the pipeline will be up and running. Bring in a better staff for the coronation.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Great points||
Try the 2011 Michigan team where Hoke inherited a few high quality very veteran pieces from Carr's recruiting and Rich's development, including the most devastating two way player in the nation. With that schedule, it was enough to win double digit games (with a little luck, see ND and VT)
The Rodriguez firing was about trajectory, direction, and sustainability. How do you want this thing to look in 10 years? It wasn't about whether Rodriguez would win 8 to 10 games at Michigan in year 4 or 5, because he likely would have.
The only way to know if the Hoke direction is the correct direction and whether it is sustainable, is to allow the boys to become upper classmen. Year 3 is too early on that front and is for any coach.
What we do know:
Recruiting is very good to elite by any objective measure. Veteran players have stuck by this guy and had some break out years playing for him and the staff even though he didn't recruit them. There is now definite NFL talent on the roster in guys like Lewan (3 years of development), Funchess (year 2) and Gardner (year 3). There are also borderline NFL level guys like Ross (year 2) and Ryan (year 3)
It could get better or it could get worse, but it's simply too early to judge. As emotional as we all are, we'd do well to try to face that.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Needed more from the defense and it didn't deliver||
What he said word for word.
I agree with an earlier post about the defense today being a slightly bigger worry. Scheme wise, I think you have to be more aggressive against a guy like Cook and force him to make plays quickly and precisely. The longer he has to sit and wait for an open man to emerge, the more likely there will be an open man. Maybe use the athleticism you are recruiting and get them moving more in space like State does.
The Michigan offense needed big plays in the passing game to produce points against this defense. Every one knew it going in. Those plays are hard to come by with such little time play after play.
All this soft or not soft talk is a bunch of junk. Michigan is very young in the middle of the offensive line and ran into a veteran defense that attacks that area very very well.
People act surprised. They shouldn't be. Embarrassed is fine, but don't let it linger.
Unfortunately for all you impatient types, we can't honestly conclude anything about this staff and player development for another year or two minimum. Right now it's too many kids against too many men on other teams bringing disaster in certain games.
MSU played the men role to the extreme today and it was ugly.
Now about Coach Funk. The line does look disorganized in the middle and has all year, but let's see how it rebounds the rest of the year. This was not a good one to judge improvement because this is an excellent veteran defense at home.
There aren't easy answers. Continue to work and continue to give it time.
|14 weeks 4 days ago||Some of you need to take off||
Some of you need to take off your fan hat and see the reality of what constant head banging, especially along the line, can do to a person's brain. It's not the big hits. It's the repetitive helmet knocking and the brain rattling around in the helmet (which actually makes the vibrations worse).
It's bad for people to even have happen once. A college player literally will have had it happen over 1000 times in his life if he plays through.
I love the sport too, but it is only a game and it is becoming increasingly known that there are certain aspects of it which are very damaging.
Deal with it with an eye towards something besides your personal entertainment.
|36 weeks 1 day ago||Announcer downgrade IMO||
I am a little surprised CBS didn't grab the Florida Gulf Coast region which also includes three nationally popular schools and assign it to the A or B team.
Not loving going from Vern and Raftery, two great college announcers, to Albert and Kerr, two mostly pro guys.
|37 weeks 16 hours ago||No question that the value of||
No question that the value of a University degree is as low as it's ever been and sinking ever lower. Still it represents an opportunity that, if you created a revenue sharing system that favored some larger schools over others, would be denied hundreds if not thousands of under-privileged border line students who are also stand-out athletes.
So many schools would simply drop out of the game completely that it would cripple educational opportunities.
There are plenty of ways to pool money from licensing of the athletes and share it among all the student athletes to their, while not creating destructive economics for many athletic programs.
Let's not forget, Michigan's black ink is not the norm, but the growing exception.
|41 weeks 2 days ago||Sort of a miserable one trick pony in life. Kinda sad.||
Poster boy for the importance of balance in life as well wisely choosing sustainable outlets. His whole existence by most accounts was centered on being considered the best ever at a game where people toss a ball through a hoop. He did almost nothing to use his position to advance causes for the disadvantaged in his own race so as to risk upsetting his corporate handlers. Overall, way less relevant than he should have been.
After all that insane effort towards one goal, he sits retired and powerless. He has to listen to the growing chorus of people saying James is better. This is a guy that was still a title-less punchline less than 9 months ago. Show's how fleeting that whole obsessed goal was along.
Jordan has had the competitive outlet of executive and basically has been pretty indifferent to it. Guy was a tota ass when he played, so the lousy executive part has been fun to watch.
The greatest basketball player ever he is though. I don't see it even up for debate.
|43 weeks 3 days ago||Your last sentence or two is||
Your last sentence or two is well-reasoned. I think the ultimate fate of such laws rests with the question of costs for risk management and insurance. Insurers are going to be less likely to write or make policies of reasonable cost for cash strapped school districts or cash-strapped rec leagues.
Plus, the idea that kids and parents can sign something to fully assume the risk probably won't hold up in court. This is especially true given the ongoing suits involving the NFL and the still unknown outcome of ongoing studies. From a legal perspective you can't ask people to assume the risk of activities where there are risks that are unknown or should have been known by those offering the sport.
With no insurance, no sport. Michigan football can absorb the costs to get umbrella coverage. Caseville intermediate school district can't.
|45 weeks 11 hours ago||I'd pick a different smack topic||
USC has 11 players in the rivals top 100. Michigan currently has 2 with 1 more likely.
Hatcher is barely dust in the wind for that class.
Let's all deal in facts. Bagging in USC's recruiting, regardless of the likability of their coach, makes everybody on here look lame.
|47 weeks 4 days ago||I was in Los Angeles at the||
I was in Los Angeles at the end of November. If you haven't spent time there, the lifestyle tangibles blow the midwest away. Start with 300 plus sunny days a year and list them out. USC is private too, so no state imposed red tape if they want to pay their assistants huge money. He'll got a monster raise if he takes the job.
|48 weeks 3 days ago||Feeling way better about the||
Feeling way better about the State game next year the more I watch them play. I can't picture their offense being much better than what we saw this year. If Bell and Sims, bolt probably worse. Neither of those quarterbacks present many problems for a defense.
|48 weeks 4 days ago||Come on! Have you been||
Come on! Have you been watching these games? No one is going to any of them. The fans have caught on and they are basically all crappy bowls.
It's the number 1 reason the playoff thing is happening. The TV ratings are starting to get as abysmal as the attendance to these games. The networks weren't going to give out the huge contract to show this stuff for a few more years and demanded more meaningful games. The public at large isn't buying in with this junk anymore. When Nebraska fans fail to show up, you know it's crappy.
|49 weeks 11 hours ago||Pets should live as long as||
Pets should live as long as people if not longer if years were granted based on truly selfless love given.
We'll be looking for good things in your next update tomorrow.
|49 weeks 12 hours ago||It has been good today. A lot||
It has been good today. A lot less of the old schtick of super stars playing iso and then drawing a call on a drive to the hole.
The Lakers showed more than a pulse. What are your impressions of them and do you think they have the upside with this roster to be a threat come May?
|49 weeks 18 hours ago||I actually like him on||
I actually like him on Detroit. They need a post scoring option and he'd be their best offensive player right off the jump. So it's an upgrade. Unload those trash contracts you speak of too.
Now just find a way to convince the Knicks to do it..... Since Isiah isn't running things anymore, I have my doubts.
|49 weeks 19 hours ago||I am wracking my brain on||
I am wracking my brain on where he'd fit in. I actually like him as a 6th man for Oklahoma City. He gives them a post option. I am talking limited minutes though. He's too much of a black hole and plays no defense to log heavy minutes for a good team with promise.
|49 weeks 19 hours ago||Yeah. Right on. I do think||
Yeah. Right on. I do think that people who throw them out with morning trash because they are old and can't run this system, need to watch the games. Dantoni has his faults such as pedestrian knowledge of defense, but he is already taking the offense and molding it to the size and age issues. Nash is the key and he'll set the pace and it doesn't have to be Phoenix 6 years ago to be devastating.
|49 weeks 19 hours ago||If he can defend and give||
If he can defend and give them 15 high energy minutes, him nailing that 3 or scoring at all is just gravy.