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|3 days 10 hours ago||Look it up, but I bet||
Look it up, but I bet Michigan has one of the 3 highest winning percentages in the country from that point forward.
It was Novak. That woke everybody up.
|4 days 12 hours ago||College should fight back by||
College should fight back by dropping the ridiculous need to wait nearly 4 weeks to play these semi-final games. Take on the NFL last quarter of their schedule with the college football playoff system.
This pandering to pointless antiquated bowl games and the bandits who run them is absolutely silly.
Run a 6 or 8 team playoff in December starting the first weekend after final exams and use campus sites for rounds 1 and 2 or just round 1.
Or let venues bid for the games all over the country.
The bowls can become what the bowls are. ESPN will still pay to show them and we'll still watch.
|1 week 17 hours ago||Three points on the||
Three points on the buyout.
First, no amount of money is going to prevent a match between a pro job and Jim Harbaugh if they really want to make it happen. Speculation would probably never be diminished by a higher dollar amount.
Second is if he is being courted by the NFL and it's serious, it likely means Michigan is back as a national power.
Third is Harbaugh can handle himself perfectly in a recruit's house when addressing the issue. He's been recruiting since before he quit playing pro football. Grinding and learning the art on the job with elbow grease for over a decade and a half save his relatively pro stints as an assistant and then head coach.
|5 weeks 11 min ago||We know what the spin will be||
It's going to be "no good NFL choices" and Michigan was his only decent option this year. With a side order of "he might not be cut out for the NFL".
The only people who will buy any of it will be frightened rival fans and people incapable of any analysis beyond claims made in an ESPN "NFL Insider" segment.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||"God bless Jim and us all.||
"God bless Jim and us all. Everyone."
(Is that the same story? If not, my bad)
|5 weeks 3 days ago||No different than Harbaugh's||
No different than Harbaugh's strict approach that he is focusing on his current job and not the next one. Two type A guys who ultimately can't work together.
I wouldn't expect him to say anything but what he said. It means nothing beyond a guy who is strident in his belief on staying focused.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Agreed||
Shefter piled on the embarrassingly bad work he's done on this story with his made-up anectdotes about Michigan not giving IPads to players and being cheap on support staff.
After he realized the offer was fact, he was resorting to "I can't believe it because (insert false irrelevant thing I made up)" to try to cover for his failure for weeks to go actually work the story.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Give me Harbaugh or Give me||
Give me Harbaugh or Give me Death.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||After over a half decade of||
After over a half decade of getting our teeth kicked in by Dantonio and his middling recruiting classes, I can't believe anyone is even bringing up recruiting considering the advantage getting the right coach gives a program.
If it came down to it, I'd wait until after signing day to sign this candidate and bank the scholarships. Gladly.
Luckily that will not happen and the new coach will get some very good players in whatever time he has.
The right head coach is everything in college football. We should all know that by now.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Absent solid word from the||
Absent solid word from the candidate himself, the odds strengthening and therefore payouts dropping (on him coming to Michigan) is far better information on what is likely to happen than the stacks of insider rumors we've seen.
I think you should read up on how Vegas works.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Years and years of toil to||
Years and years of toil to get this opportunity for his dream job and it didn't last.
Looking at it on that level plus reading what the players say, I am sick to my stomach a little.
It will be better tomorrow.
Michigan is better off. But I am still not liking any of this.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||The similarities in the type||
The similarities in the type of kids you would get academically are obvious too. He turned those guys into take no prisoners maulers on the football field. Put aside his technical knowledge, which is considered elite by any standard.
He'd have even more access to top athletes in his recruiting here.
One thing people forget is he hasn't won anything yet. He idolizes Bo and it probably drives him crazy that people talk about Bo's failure to win it all.
There is a very personal and massive professional challenge right here at Michigan waiting for him. He always loved a challenge.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Character,||
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Michigan needs to get this||
Michigan needs to get this man.
Zero guesswork on the results he'll bring.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||I agree Michigan failed him.||
I agree Michigan failed him. If you felt compelled to keep him around, he should have been forced to the sidelines for a year ala Stonum on the felony theft. Theft is a big deal because it goes right to the heart of honesty. You have to calculate theft. Plan it. Carry it out.
When they went soft on that offense, the Michigan staff, Hoke in particular failed to impart the necessary lessons.
Clark deserves all the help Michigan can still give him. I don't believe he should have been allowed to still play Michigan football after offense 1. However like then, he deserves sympathy and help. But remaining as a player on the football team was debatable.
This is more than a besmirchment. Had this victim been severly incapacitated or even died, Michigan football and it's handling of discipline would be under some horrible scrutiny.
The other factor is the nature of domestic violence is that this likely wasn't a first-time deal involving these actors. We all lose our cool and act out and then wish we hadn't. But this has very likely happened before and went unreported. That's way different than having a bad moment in time.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||He's done at Michigan. Done.||
He's done at Michigan. Done. As it should be.
I wasn't for bringing him back in the first place. One of the less-discussed stories of Brady Hoke's now-doomed tenure at Michigan is his soft-peddling guys who did harm to the University and team with their behavior. Theft crime, good bye. Simple.
I guess it's the one area where he actually measured up to Michigan State.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||It is the only reason. You||
It is the only reason. You are correct.
I've heard that he is still real close with guys like Kolesar and other teammates. They talk Michigan constantly and follow the program with great passion. It's personal for Jim when Michigan suffers on the field. Make no mistake.
That's a bid edge in landing him.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Rich Rod's offense sputtering||
Rich Rod's offense sputtering against a physical defense on the road. Same old same old.
Not even a very good defense either. UCLA has given up huge games to the likes of Colorado.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I like how Stanford does many||
I like how Stanford does many different things out of one formation. Lots of reads at the line by smart guys depending on the defense. It makes traditional power sets a lot harder to defend.
That's all Harbaugh with Shaw as his OC.
The future here at Michigan if things fall the right way in the next few weeks.
|13 weeks 25 min ago||Luck was his big get. Turned||
Luck was his big get. Turned things big time for what Jim was trying to do. Everyone wanted him.
He was the best college quarterback I've ever seen. It didn't hurt getting him.
What I like about the fit with Michigan is you have those same sell points with the elite education a kid can receive.
I like what Harbaugh was able to do with both Smith and the current quarterback with the 49ers. It seemed like a great job maximizing the skill set of each guy.
You see that on display with Cook at Michigan State. He's a product of great player development as much as I hate to admit it.
|13 weeks 56 min ago||other thoughts||
There are two other components with that defense worth considering.
Stanford recruits better generally on offense. Offensive focused players are often better students because offense can be less about pure raw athleticism than defense. The assignments on defense can be complex as well, but it's more about turning athletes loose and letting them make plays.
The defense would necessarily take more time to develop because it would take a few years to get undervalued recruits on campus and coach them up/get them stronger. See Michigan State's defense first 3 years under Dantonio. It wasn't really all that good.
A guy like Sherman was an exception to the level of recruits Stanford was getting defensively.
The other component is the bias towards offense of the conference Stanford is in.
I haven't checked but I doubt even Jim's best defense had the recruiting cache he'd inherit at Michigan.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||recent appearance||
He did an interview from the field on Michigan football radio pre-game Saturday.
It was short on specifics except for a little depth on the ticket price reduction for students.
It was noteworthy only because it was a public statement which posters have noted are becoming rare.
Compared to his usual condescending vibe, his tone seemed whimsical. I took it to mean he knows he's cooked.
Maybe because that's how I wanted to take it.
|44 weeks 3 days ago||Jalen's right. Anybody on||
Jalen's right. Anybody on here who places any weight on quotes from Izzo at this juncture is being naive on a baffling level.
The fact is the Pistons are looking at a lottery pick and a 20 year old budding star at center. Don't tell me that's not attractive in a leauge totally driven by stars.
Especially for a guy that has stated publicly he'd love to just coach and not have to recruit.
People on here think too much like local college sports slappies way too often.
|47 weeks 5 days ago||This team needs buzz and a||
This team needs buzz and a lottery pick to pair up with Drummond. Had they done the clear and smart thing and drafted Burke, they'd be sitting on a dynamic local star point guard, a 20-year old true center with huge upside and a lottery pick. Burke would have guaranteed a baseline of fan interest which they currently don't have. Dumb, dumb, dumb and they still don't have an actual point guard.
As it is it's still an interesting situation. They need that lottery pick and bad. I hope they are tanking like there's no tomorrow.
Isiah was the Captain he should have never left this organization. Ever.
Should he be running things? No. He should be part of things though.
Bring him in, tank for the lottery, make a play for Izzo. Now's the time to lure him away from State. They are looking trashy next year by their standards and Izzo's burned out chasing recruits around like it's still 1997. He was all but gone to Cleveland in 2010. He just waited out the decision like everyone else.
|50 weeks 1 day ago||If they finish in the bottom||
If they finish in the bottom 8 in the best draft in 11 years, there is piece 2 (a lottery pick). Piece 1 being Drummond. In the NBA you need a superstar or 2. They could potentially have 2 both not yet old enough to buy alcohol. That's a heck of a start.
Plus they are so boring and uninteresting and lousy, that it's the perfect entry point. A mediocre .500 season would be another feather in Izzo's cap.
On the flirting with Cleveland: Yeah it was rumors. Rumors where the subject of the rumors (Izzo) flat out disappeared from media contact for weeks, took the owners private jet to Cleveland, and publicly stated he wanted to talk to Lebron.
That's A LOT more than rumors. That's his mini-version of Lebron's decision with the program he professes to adore hanging in the balance. Remember that was a year removed from his biggest accomplishment since 2000: taking a good not great team to the final game played in Detroit no less.
He hasn't been to a Final Four since. Not even close. The mountains have been scaled. He still has to recruit his butt off like it's 1997 which he hates.
Maybe State can match the Pistons financially, but if he were to ever leave, you would be hard pressed to find a better situation.
The coaches for the stacked teams on the brink of winning titles don't get fired. The jobs only open for the bad teams. If you are Izzo you pick one with major upside.
That could be Detroit if they tank out.
I think a lot of times we fail to think like the subject of the discussion and substitute our own thinking. Security or job security means diddly to Izzo at this point. To us it sounds great. Guys like him got to that point because they were crazy upwardly mobile. They broke all the rules about how many hours you work and how intense you need to be. That's who they are.
|50 weeks 1 day ago||Based on what? Total loyalty||
Based on what? Total loyalty to State came off the table in 2010. A guy with total loyalty doesn't go into hiding for a fortnight hoping to speak to the waffling superstar player of the team he might take over as coach. Lebron stays, he was heading to Cleveland. That was pretty common knowledge.
You have some substance besides the world through green and white goggles?
|50 weeks 1 day ago||They are currently in a||
They are currently in a melee of three teams all within 3 games of being in the bottom 8. This team can get into that confederacy of losers with one of their normal weeks.
Tanking super hard isn't necessary. Just keep playing Detroit basketball.
Plus Izzo will have the luxury to see how they finish before he'll decide to take the job.
As an aside, they'd be total morons not to tank and get a lottery pick. Best draft since 2003. Making the playoffs only keeps them mediocre in a league that penalizes it.
|50 weeks 1 day ago||Reasons why it very well could happen||
---He was all but gone to Cleveland in 2010. He publicly stated he "wanted to talk to Lebron" to see if he was returning or going to another team. This lingered for over 2 weeks. He knows that taking an NBA job without a superstar or high lottery pick is a suicide mission. So this absolute loyalty and he would never leave MSU idea is actually total fantasy. I get why State fans buy into it, but people on here are too smart for that.
--The Pistons likely will have a lottery pick.
--They already have a budding potential superstar who is barely age 20.
--His entry point is perfect. He'd be following a series of dog coaches and lousy seasons. So a .500 record and a playoff spot in year 1 would make him a savior.
--He doesn't have to leave the state he already lives in
--He hates recruiting. He recently had a public blow up with influential talent runners and coaches in Chicago. He has stated publicly that he is disappointed that he can't get A list talent to State on auto pilot despite all his success. Basically expressing envy of teams like Duke and Kentucky.
--Huge money and likely a stake in the franchise. Like set up your grandchildren's kids level money.
--Gores love of MSU. It's even been rumored that he leaned on Dumars not to take Burke because he didn't want to build his team around a popular U of M player.
--The desperate need for buzz to put fans in an embarrassingly empty Palace. Izzo is a statewide sports icon and would instantly put the team on the front page again.
--State's recruiting isn't what it was. Who they got coming back next year? Michigan will likely have everyone back.
Add it up: It's actually a perfect time to leave and the Pistons are a perfect situation for him to walk into.
Not saying it will happen, but since we already know Izzo would have definitely left MSU a few years ago, there's lots of factors saying it could.
|51 weeks 6 days ago||On film:||
Seems sort of cruise speed motor and has poor technique. Great if he comes, cool if he doesn't.
He's far from a can't miss impact player at this point.
I'd rather have a guy in the Marcus Rush mode who plays with abandon and fire. Outside of Jake, there is nobody on the defense currently that appears to play that way.
Marshall looks like the better player at this point.
|1 year 5 days ago||Actually your comment is totally misleading||
If you read the body of the article, he was asked by the interviewer to respond to the specific notion he is running the program rather than Hoke. Which he did.
Your comment makes it seem like he took a question about an aspect or event and made a point of reemphasizing he isn't running the program.
There's a huge difference.