Yes, all true. I was mostly just referring to the record, which I would argue was chalked up to a cold start of an engine that would be humming in due time.
Of course slapping another coach is a problem that he should absolutely need to learn to control.
But embezzlement, corruption, etc. I feel like is a different level of ethics rot. It's a consistent and conscious choice to wield your power for personal gain at the expense of others.
Howard may be a bad coach, but I don't think he's unethical. I hope we can part ways with him with his integrity - and the chance at another coaching stop - intact.
These trustees seem like they got into some bad moves.
"Of the allegations raised in the investigation, the ones of most concern to Miller & Chevalier are claims that Chair Vassar and Trustee Denno retaliated against Interviewees and claims that they undertook to launch personal attacks against Interim President Woodruff and the Faculty Senate Chair, (Jack) Lipton."
Denno and Vassar, the report said, met with students and provided them with "confidential and inaccurate information" that violated the code of ethics for the board and was "intended to embarrass and unsettle Interim President Woodruff in violation of Standard 8 of the Code of Ethics."
In regard to Lipton, chair of the MSU Faculty Senate, Vassar and Denno ""The investigation established that Chair Vassar and Trustee Denno "...encouraged a campaign of personal attacks against Dr. Lipton... by student groups and the press. The evidence suggests that their actions were primarily motivated by personal animus against Dr. Lipton, likely due to Dr. Lipton’s call for Chair Vassar’s resignation." That action, according to the report, also violated the code of ethics and "warrant referral to the Governor for review and consideration pursuant to MCL 168.293."
Beilein's already earned next year, and when they take the inevitable step forward in '11-'12 he'll get year six, and that's got at least a decent chance of working out.
I still remember going to the Michigan State game in 2003 - the program was under sanction and wouldn't go to a post-season tournament, yet the team 1) beat Sparty for the first time in years and 2) rattled of a 13-game win streak.
That takes a coach with a ton of belief and heart and a team who believes in greater things. We had it in spades in this program for over a decade; now it's entirely absent.
While Beilein’s first year was this bad, everyone knew things would get better.
we don’t know if that’s true with this one. It all depends on the competence of an athletic director who hasn't really given us many reasons to trust him.
I wish this was rock bottom. I expect it to get worse.
FWIW, Ellerbe's roster management had more to do with players getting the NCAA hammer (Crawford) or disciplinary issues (Gaines, Searight), as well as taking a flyer on a really raw Josh Moore.
Howard doesn't have the excuse of a program with sanctions hanging over it, which (gulp) makes him even more culpable than Ellerbe
Harbaugh had a decade of goodwill by proving his competence as a head coach at multiple levels of the football world.
For Howard, it's not just about being snakebitten by unfortunate events (like the 2020 football season was). It is patently clear that all aspects of the basketball program are failing.
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It is? The women’s field is being set right now, not yet done.
(we’re a women’s basketball school now)
welp, he earned it.
Bummed that neither Dawn Staley nor Becky Hammon were even mentioned here.
let’s think outside the lines a bit here.
Wow, he sure has sired a lot of children during these tournaments.
Color me slightly unimpressed with Otzel.
he’s good, but maybe not program building good.
I do kinda love that we’ve now recommended two women and they’re debated on the merits rather than some kind of non sequitir
at least we…
Craig James.
at least we know he can draw in a full team of 5.
Juwan is a Michigan Man, through and through, and I don't know if there was a single one of us who didn't want him to succeed here.
But actions and results speak volumes.
(for my major…
CC: Pedro
(for my major league fans)
I read this less as "stating the obvious" and Warde trying to gather evidence for a for-cause firing.
I just hope it's as an assistant for the Heat.
What if he's pulling a Bill Martin and interviewing candidates at an airport hotel in Chicago tho
Becky…
Here’s a wild one:
Becky Hammon.
discuss.
I'd say Tony Alford going to Michigan is a bigger middle finger than Greg Mattison to Ohio State was.
And I love it.
didn't Ono…
wait.
didn't Ono essentially orchestrate Harbaugh's return for his national championship-winning season?
and didn't he create some room for the "One More Year" fund to exist?
I feel like this is revisionist history.
Will our admissions office accept his transcript though?
i'm a WBB fan from here on out, what games are on
I love the shit out of our coach, man
Yes, all true. I was mostly just referring to the record, which I would argue was chalked up to a cold start of an engine that would be humming in due time.
Tom Goss withheld knowledge of a player suspension due to NCAA violation from his boss and ran a budget deficit in the department.
The latter could be forgiven to an extent, but the former was playing with fire.
Tom Goss wants a word
I read it as separate bits of information that fell into the either/or bucket.
Of course slapping another coach is a problem that he should absolutely need to learn to control.
But embezzlement, corruption, etc. I feel like is a different level of ethics rot. It's a consistent and conscious choice to wield your power for personal gain at the expense of others.
I chuckled a little bit, but I'm gonna be a nerd:
Howard may be a bad coach, but I don't think he's unethical. I hope we can part ways with him with his integrity - and the chance at another coaching stop - intact.
These trustees seem like they got into some bad moves.
Yeah this all seems kinda bad!
Fuck yeah, he worked out.
I still remember going…
Yep.
I still remember going to the Michigan State game in 2003 - the program was under sanction and wouldn't go to a post-season tournament, yet the team 1) beat Sparty for the first time in years and 2) rattled of a 13-game win streak.
That takes a coach with a ton of belief and heart and a team who believes in greater things. We had it in spades in this program for over a decade; now it's entirely absent.
Correction: the Titanic didn't slide, it sank. ;)
FWIW Amaker was brought in to run a program cleanly and buff out the tarnish of NCAA sanctions.
He did that and, frankly, got screwed out of at least one tourney selection (went on to win the NIT that year, if I recall).
Amaker wasn't a resounding success, but he also didn't torpedo the program like Howard has.
While Beilein’s first year was this bad, everyone knew things would get better.
we don’t know if that’s true with this one. It all depends on the competence of an athletic director who hasn't really given us many reasons to trust him.
I wish this was rock bottom. I expect it to get worse.
Narrator: this shit does, in fact, not work.
FIRE JUWAN. NOW.
ALSO FIRE WARDE.
I'll edit your d, Vlad.
unless…
Four, hopefully.
unless they run the table at the BTT.
(pause for guffawing)
Warde saying “the Purdue game showed this team’s potential” as Juwan is given another year would just be the shit cherry on top of the diarrhea cake
I have no sympathy for the people you describe.
i love you, though. 🥰
I have zero sympathy for you.
literally sounded like a purdue home game on that Edey bucket
Jesus, that's a lot of cyan.
FWIW, Ellerbe's roster management had more to do with players getting the NCAA hammer (Crawford) or disciplinary issues (Gaines, Searight), as well as taking a flyer on a really raw Josh Moore.
Howard doesn't have the excuse of a program with sanctions hanging over it, which (gulp) makes him even more culpable than Ellerbe
Juwan took two lottery picks and an all-american to the NIT.
What "limitations" exist there?
His pedigree stemmed from two areas:
1. he played here.
2. he was on the bench behind one of the NBA's smartest coaches for a few years.
It is entirely possible that he would be successful as an NBA coach, but that doesn't correlate to college success (or the other way around).
In terms of recruiting/development -- well, I'll let the in-game product speak for itself. Both of those things mean nothing if you're not executing.
Harbaugh had a decade of goodwill by proving his competence as a head coach at multiple levels of the football world.
For Howard, it's not just about being snakebitten by unfortunate events (like the 2020 football season was). It is patently clear that all aspects of the basketball program are failing.
poor guy. i'm sure he didn't see things going the way it did.
michigan…
One correction:
michigan was elite in the 2010s. Second most tourney wins behind Gonzaga.
Why not?
Men’s Basketball, panic now.
the others? Eh.
This is all fuckin' great, IMO.
Sherrone Uber Alles.
scrumtralescent, even!
ADEGOKE!
ADEGOKE!…
Adegoke!
ADEGOKE!
ADEGOKE!
ADEGOKE!
ADEGOKE!