i find this extremely interesting
Illinois Head Coach Beckman Trying to "Plug" His Troubles; NCAA Violation to Be Reported
October 8th, 2012 at 12:51 AM
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Illinois Head Coach Beckman Trying to "Plug" His Troubles; NCAA Violation to Be Reported
It's a shame when the pressures of B1G Ten football induce a head coach to commit an NCAA violation. It's a double shame when the violation involves a serious health hazard to that same coach.
Tim Beckman, head coach of Michigan's next opponent, Illinois, succumbed to his nicotine craving during Saturday's loss to Wisconsin. He was caught on camera using chewing tobacco and the school wiii be reporting the violation to the NCAA, per US Today. Link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/10/06/football-coach-smokeless...
Let's hope the media do not focus in on this sad circumstance as a distraction from the upcoming Michigan-Illinois game.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:53 AM | 
Yeah, he's dipping Skoal.
Yeah, he's dipping Skoal.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:03 AM |
No kidding?!?
No kidding?!?
Uh oh.
Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal
October 8th, 2012 at 1:12 AM |
None of that pussy Skoal!
None of that pussy Skoal!
None of that pussy Skoal! Right dad?
Hail.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:55 AM |
Pretty stupid rule IMO
Pretty stupid rule IMO
Pretty stupid rule IMO
"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."
October 8th, 2012 at 1:11 AM |
the NCAA took
the NCAA took
a stance against the use of tobacco products years ago. Its a simple rule and easy to follow.
Every athletic department at every level has some kind of rule against using tobacco products.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:16 AM |
Not to mention...
Not to mention...
the youth leagues in almost every sport. I don't think anything terrible should happen to UofI for this, but come on people. If you're making what Beckman makes you should be able to find substitues for these four hours per week, thirteen times per year (twelve in Illinois' case).
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins
October 8th, 2012 at 9:27 AM |
If Hoke can give up food on
If Hoke can give up food on
If Hoke can give up food on gameday, Beckman should be able to give up tobacco on gameday
"This is Michigan for God sakes" -Brady Hoke
October 8th, 2012 at 10:14 AM |
Hoke?
Hoke?
Either it's just the camera angles, or Brady Hoke has been giving up food a lot more than just on gameday.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:16 AM |
Hoke
Hoke
I do think he's been looking rather svelt lately.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:52 AM |
maybe a little of both
maybe a little of both
maybe a little of both
"This is Michigan for God sakes" -Brady Hoke
October 8th, 2012 at 8:59 AM |
Coaches and players are role
Coaches and players are role
Coaches and players are role models. Modeling behavior that is proven to be hazardous to your health is not a good idea for the school or the NCAA, especially when it comes to an actual athletic event.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:15 AM |
If coaches are role models
If coaches are role models
If coaches are role models then about half of them should be forced to lose weight. Obesity kills as many or more people than tobacco.
Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:18 AM |
You might be right, but it's
You might be right, but it's
You might be right, but it's easier to enforce "Don't chew tobacco during a game" than "Lose 50 pounds."
Also, being fat isn't illegal for people who are under 18. Chewing tobacco is.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:29 AM |
I don't disagree with you
I don't disagree with you
I don't disagree with you about tobacco as I happen to think it's a disgusting habit. I still believe that a coach should be in good physical condition if he is going to lead and teach young athletes. I've always had a problem with fat adults telling kids how important it is to be in great physical shape. (see Charlie Weis)
Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:06 AM |
Context...
Context...
I've read most of your responses here and generally agree. I just wonder if your tone (and the tone of others getting on their soap box) would change if you realized how many of the current UofM coaches dip. Not just throughout the week in practice/meetings, but on gameday. Hoke may not anymore given his position...however when he was DLine coach in the late 90s early 00s, I know for a fact he did. Unfortunately it's part of the culture. Also, we should differentiate high school coaches and college coaches at big time BCS schools on this point. Different atmospheres.
October 8th, 2012 at 11:15 AM |
I said the same thing(s) when
I said the same thing(s) when
I said the same thing(s) when Tony Gibson was dipping on the sideline at Michigan a couple years ago.
October 10th, 2012 at 3:20 PM |
Fair enough, I applaud your
Fair enough, I applaud your
Fair enough, I applaud your consistency.
I get why the Beckman thing got blown out of proportion...he threw in a chaw on national TV. Generally, though, coaches/players/staff of big time college football programs aren't making their "bad habits" a spectacle. Further, I highly doubt a player would see a coach dipping and choose to dip for that sole reason - it's actually more probable that his peers would be the one to influence him in one direction or the other. This is different in high school where a 15 year-old may give it a try because his position coach is always dipping.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:01 PM |
I think football is hazardous to your health
I think football is hazardous to your health
In the Air Force it's the same thing. People are asked and paid to do dangerous things, because they are necessary or valued, yet those same people are asked to carry out a PC war against tobacco use.
In the big scheme of things, it seems silly.
October 8th, 2012 at 12:59 AM |
Dipping is one of those
Dipping is one of those
Dipping is one of those things that is awful and disgusting, and you can't rationalize doing it, but you catch yourself doing it and enjoying it for no good reason.
Kind of like housing a large pizza or a dozen donuts by yourself.
What I'm saying is Kansas should have to self report every time Charlie Weis takes down a Hot N Ready by himself.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:13 AM |
If housing a Hot N Ready is
If housing a Hot N Ready is
If housing a Hot N Ready is an NCAA crime... well... good thing I played in the NAIA...
Hail.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:56 AM |
jesus
jesus
you guys are talking about when you were like 17, right? because if not, i mean, just how big are you guys? i couldn't eat an entire large pizza if i wanted to.
RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.
October 8th, 2012 at 10:27 AM |
Long past my growth spurt
Long past my growth spurt
Long past the point of growing, and I can put down a Hot N Ready lickety split. And I'm underweight, given my height. Put me on a hiking trail for 10 miles, and I can put down two.
Moral of the story: it's all about your metabolism.
"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"
"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"
~George Walden
October 8th, 2012 at 1:01 AM |
This post confuses me. Why
This post confuses me. Why
This post confuses me. Why would this be a major story? Why is it so sad? Am I missing something?
October 8th, 2012 at 1:37 AM |
I'm hoping this is a /s post
I'm hoping this is a /s post
I'm hoping this is a /s post and the OP is trying to be funny.
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
October 8th, 2012 at 1:02 AM |
Wow!
Wow!
Let's hope this earth shaking news doesn't distract Brady and the team from their preparation for their upcoming game.
Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal
October 8th, 2012 at 1:07 AM |
The equivalent of farting in
The equivalent of farting in
The equivalent of farting in public, except with less effect on other people.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:12 AM |
Right..
Right..
Except I don't think farting will cause your face to decay if you do it too much... But otherwise, very close to the same thing. Totally agree here.
Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal
October 8th, 2012 at 1:15 AM |
No, but butthole decay is a
No, but butthole decay is a
No, but butthole decay is a very serious problem. Caused by a lot of fast food. And pick your poison, a decaying butthole, or a decaying face? It's a lose lose situation.
Hail.
October 8th, 2012 at 4:31 AM |
Well fortunately for one of those we have
Well fortunately for one of those we have
Well fortunately for one of those we have Chipotlaway, for the other I guess your only choose is to grow a Mealer beard.
"that's why you don't go to Ohio State, Lawrence"
October 8th, 2012 at 1:11 AM |
Beckman
Beckman
I've watched parts of two or three Illinois games this season and was really amazed at how awful they've become--particularly since Zook actually left them a fair amount of talent on the roster.
I wouldn't normally expect a school to consider firing a coach after just one season, and there is a long way yet to go this year. But already Beckman's had the embarrassing flap with trying to recruit Penn State players, there's this stupid violation over chewing tobacco, and the product he's putting on the field is absolutely atrocious. At some point you've got to start thinking about cutting your losses. A couple more incidents like this and I would think he could be looking at an early hot seat.
"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion
October 8th, 2012 at 1:51 AM |
I'm hoping your comment
I'm hoping your comment
Is as sarcastic as I suspect the OP was.
Did you see Zook's product. Talented but uncoached athletes are a disaster. You have to give a guy two years at least.
Using the term Wildcat to describe a direct snap to anyone other than a QB is like calling any rock band from the early 90s Grunge.
October 8th, 2012 at 2:12 AM |
Beckman
Beckman
I don't like seeing coaches get fired before they've had a legitimate chance to show what they can do, which one year pretty much never is. But when you're getting blown out by 4+ TDs every week, you can't afford to be making an ass of yourself with things like chewing tobacco or trying to raid Penn State's roster. I certainly don't think he's in any danger of being fired based on what has happened to date. But if Beckman keeps losing and keeps having these little mini-tempests, people are going to start losing their patience.
"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion
October 8th, 2012 at 11:45 AM |
You folks can tilt with the windmills of your choice, but
You folks can tilt with the windmills of your choice, but
please don't fix Illinois until after the game.
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
October 8th, 2012 at 1:12 AM |
Who is this Tim Beckman you
Who is this Tim Beckman you
Who is this Tim Beckman you speak of?
"Everybody thinks of changing humanity, but nobody thinks of changing himself." - Leo Tolstoy
October 8th, 2012 at 1:14 AM |
Jeebus.
Jeebus.
Is this really what college football has come to?
Somehow this crap is not OT?
Sure, it's a violation but its as meaningless as Ohio State giving cars to players...the outcome will be the same (nothing).
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
October 8th, 2012 at 1:14 AM |
Who cares?!! This is America.
Who cares?!! This is America.
Who cares?!! This is America. Herm, where you at on this one??
October 8th, 2012 at 1:16 AM |
Dude... give him at least 3
Dude... give him at least 3
Dude... give him at least 3 minutes to log into his alternate account before you call him out for an opinion.
Hail.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:17 AM |
And... Joe Tiller had
And... Joe Tiller had
And... Joe Tiller had something in his mouth for years and never go in trouble so what gives?
October 8th, 2012 at 9:01 AM |
That was just his diabeetus
That was just his diabeetus
That was just his diabeetus medication.
October 8th, 2012 at 9:10 AM |
joe tiller
joe tiller
was known to chew on ice cubes.
Coach Hoke once told me that a moral victory is still a (expletive deleted) loss.
October 8th, 2012 at 1:20 AM |
it could give him some street
it could give him some street
it could give him some street cred with players? clearly he's not going to get any by winning games
October 8th, 2012 at 1:34 AM |
Your phrasing/description of
Your phrasing/description of
Your phrasing/description of the events is very strange. It's not that sad, it's not a huge deal, and it's not clear that he's doing this due to the extreme pressures of the job. It's not like he's out on the field doing lines of blow.
Also when did dipping become an extreme health hazard?
Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow
October 8th, 2012 at 2:22 AM |
Ohio st had the same
Ohio st had the same
Ohio st had the same violation last year with Vrabel
October 8th, 2012 at 3:17 AM |
My Old Friend
My Old Friend
I've been free of the stuff for 56 days now. A monster of a habit that started as a sophomore at Michigan many, many years ago. I can totally understand why he felt the urge.
I miss it but I am glad I stopped (plus I moved to China and they don't sell it here). Beckman needs to visit KillTheCan.org
October 8th, 2012 at 3:22 AM |
Congrats!
Congrats!
Keep it up, man.
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins
October 8th, 2012 at 1:06 PM |
Way to go
Way to go
Keep up the good work.
October 8th, 2012 at 6:28 AM |
He should just chew on some
He should just chew on some
He should just chew on some grass like Les Miles. Problem solved.
Third generation Michigan alum
October 8th, 2012 at 10:57 AM |
or he could roll it up and smoke it
or he could roll it up and smoke it
or he could roll it up and smoke it .. but if he is a role model he should vaporize it.
I will fucking cunt punt the next person I hear about doing something like that, and I don't give a fuck if you SOR me, I WILL FUCKING ASSAULT YOU.
October 8th, 2012 at 5:23 PM |
marijuana kills buddy
marijuana kills buddy
that is not appropriate!!!!
and vaporizors are awesome... so i hear...
We are the dead.
October 8th, 2012 at 7:44 AM |
Chewing tobacco is an NCAA
Chewing tobacco is an NCAA
Chewing tobacco is an NCAA violation? Seriously? Is this what college football is coming to?
Brady Hoke: Kicking Ass And Signing Names On The Recruiting Trail
Yeah, he's dipping Skoal.
Abort, Retry, Fail?