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- The '03 Draft was LOADED compared to last year's, so Detroit "missing" by taking Darko is even worse than the Cavs taking Bennett, who was a "lesser of evils" pick (at least in Cleveland's mind) since no clear cut #1 had been established.
- It's been covered ad nauseum on this board, but the Darko pick at #2 was the right pick at that time. Most GMs/scouts had Darko at #2 on their boards. Bennett wasn't #1 anywhere except Cleveland.
- The Pistons were coming off back to back division titles and the conf. finals when they drafted Darko, so taking a project made even more sense. Where, Cleveland needs players NOW.
- If the Pistons don't draft Darko, do they take Carmelo who (to use hindsight like you have) would've been an awful fit on those teams, likely preventing a Championship in '04? Or, do they take Wade (a better choice) and bring him off the bench behind a blossoming Rip Hamilton? In any case, the Rasheed trade likely doesn't happen in either of those scenarios, so an argument can be made that no Championships are won w/o drafting Darko. Therefore, Darko = Championship.
|1 week 1 day ago||Does Ricky know your plans to||
Does Ricky know your plans to nail him?
|1 week 6 days ago||Please tell me that was an||
Please tell me that was an Omar reference. If so, well done.
|2 weeks 2 hours ago||NFL getting in on the action||
NFL getting in on the action as well with RFID technology in 15-20 stadiums (can't remember which ones). They'll be doing this on top of the teams GPS technology from what I understand. The Zebra RFID chips will be used, at least in part, to provide fans advanced information on players from games.
This is similar to the SportVU technology used in the NBA (except NBA doesn't use RFID). The knowledge and charting that's come out of the NBA the last few years with SportVU are awesome.
|2 weeks 16 hours ago||Chad Henne is a big one. My||
Chad Henne is a big one. My guess is there have been special teams players as well, but tough to think of many position players.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||sweet jesus... /s happy||
sweet jesus... /s
And to respond directly, of course I don't expect Spike to be in the NBA, nice strawman leap there. That said, Spike has proven more effective than 100s of players ranked higher than he was over the last few years. Also, when I say an underrated guy ends up as an early entry, I'm mostly referring to Trey, Timmy, Nik, and Caris - who, based on their ratings at the time they committed (or overall) had no business being an NBA draft pick based on relative success of sub top 50 players.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Well, when all of your||
Well, when all of your underrated players turn into NBA early entries, you've gotta back fill with "diamonds in the rough" so that your top 50 recruits have someone to play with.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Are you saying that, even if||
Are you saying that, even if he is unable to play basketball at the same level he has the past couple years, he may be fine when he looks at the $80M plus the Pacers will pay him through 2018?
Yeah, you may be right.
|4 weeks 22 hours ago||"Winning cures all" and "Team||
"Winning cures all" and "Team chemistry leads to positive results" are not mutually exclusive. Teams have won despite poor chemistry, but the most successful teams tend to lack issues with leadership and buy-in amongst the players.
I'm a huge fan of advanced stats and analytics, but the problem I've seen, is where proponents of analysis on a numbers only basis who don't have a history of playing the sport they are analyzing, discount any factor that can't be quantified. This is necessary for their analysis, but it ignores intangibles that likely have a legit impact on bottom lines Ws and Ls.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||2003 Purdue & 2008 Wisco||
2003 Purdue - Kyle Orton leads a top-10 ranked Purdue into Ann Arbor (Purdue's only loss was to a legit Bowling Green team - MAC was solid that year). We blitzed the hell of Orton and lit him up several times (twice by Shazor if I recall), Leon Hall had his coming out party as a freshmen, and Braylon/Breaston/Avant did their typical thing. Purdue ended up having a good year, but this game is overshadowed by the 100th game against OSU and, of course, the Rose Bowl loss to USC. (let's ignore the early special teams abortions at Oregon and Iowa that cose us a BCS championship appearance). If there is a quintisential MANBAWL > basketball on grass game, it's this one. We completely dominated this game physically.
2008 Wisconsin - Yeah, this year ended up really sucking, but we didn't know how bad it would be yet and Wisconsin was ranked 9 or 10 I think. Threet had his 50+ yard run, John Thompson had a pick-6 and it was one of the loudest moments I've experienced in Michigan Stadium when Wisconsin was lining up to go for 2 to tie it at the end. A nice memory in an otherwise horrible season.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Looks like Jamal Crawford was||
Looks like Jamal Crawford was the host of the dunk contest (Not OT?). I think his foundation gets the proceeds from the Seattle Pro-Am events (assuming this was part of the pro-am).
Lavine doing all that makes some sense. There were NBA scout tweets all over the place about how insane he was in workouts. If GRIII makes the NBA roster, they'll have two top level athletes running around cleaning up Ricky Rubio misses.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||One other comment on the Trey||
One other comment on the Trey compairsons. Trey became "VERY special and unique", but he was not his freshman year. In a lot of ways, as a frosh, he was comparable to Walton last year. The main difference being Trey's on court presence and usage - which may not have anything to do with either player and more to do with the team's makeup when each player was a freshman.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||A little late coming back to||
A little late coming back to this, but I feel like I need to respond to the three of you. My point, in response to panthera, was that plenty of guys around Walton's size are drafted. A lot of the points you're making rely on an assumption that Walton has short arms. None of you cite his actual wingspan, and I don't look at the guy and think TRex. I don't see a freak winspan either, but my guess is it's around what Siva, Napier, or Walker have. Also, although Walton is not a freak athlete like Flynn or Bledsoe, he appears to be as athletic and/or built a bit more "staunchly" than Trey, Siva, Napier, Walker (despite the comment above, Kemba is not an elite athlete). Let's not forget that Trey's greatest asset was ultimately his basketball SKILL/IQ, which he worked extremely hard to develop on his own and with the UofM coaches. Same goes for Napier and Walker, frankly (although Napier may be the quickest of the bunch in tight spaces). Comparing Walton to a senior Napier or junior Walker is unfair, just like comapring him to a soph NPOY in Trey is unfair.
Lastly, my point was not that Walton is destined to be drafted in the first round and have success in the NBA. Flynn was drafted in the top ten and got a bunch of guaranteed money despite flaming out pretty quickly. NBA success was not the measure, being drafted was.
Ultimately, due to Walton's lack of ELITE size and ELITE athleticism, he will need to develop those basketball SKILLS that turned other similarly positioned 6' or 6'1" PGs into first round draft picks. I think this echoes one of the comments above - he needs become really good or great at something instead of being good at everything. The tools are there...
|6 weeks 1 day ago||"Forgot about Dre Trey", Dr.||
And Kemba Walker, and Peyton Siva, and Shabazz Napier, and Eric Bledsoe, and Johnny Flynn...just to name some diminuitive draft picks off the top of head from the past several years.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I've hesitated to post this,||
I've hesitated to post this, as I don't want it to see overly "pluggy", but this is a perfect opportunity. A friend and UofM Alum is in the process of starting his own clothing line focused on blending normal mens professional wear with moisture wicking fabric - think prevention of sweaty pits during a work presentation. He just started a Kickstarter as well.
If nothing more, check out the promo video for the Office Space reference.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Unfortunately 2 of them||
Unfortunately 2 of them (didn't see the third) were not of the playmaking variety. One was a nice outlet to a streaking Larkin but the other was a gimme layoff to a trailer where he gave up a wide open dunk for himself.
|9 weeks 23 hours ago||I think there's more grey||
I think there's more grey area here than you're allowing for. What % of the population actually knows how to download something illegally? 25%? Now what % of paying viewers of a show are a result of word of mouth or general promotion from those viewers who have viewed illegally? Is it enough to offset the reduction in market value coming from illegal viewing? Is it more? Can I ask more questions in one post?
Point is, advertisers pay more for the most popular shows, those shows get popular not only from "legal" or "paying" means.
|9 weeks 23 hours ago||Your point on illegal||
Your point on illegal downloading (which I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with) only holds up if the person downloading would otherwise purchase the copyrighted material if the illegal download wasn't an option. Now, that is definitely the case in some cases, but I've torrented music, shows, and movies in the past that I would never go purchase. I used it as a way to discover new music or shows based on recommednations from friends or online. Based on what I liked I would legally download the bands next album or a previous one and pay for it, and that is how I chose to subscribe to HBO. Now I use Spotify for this and am more than happy to pay the subscription fee. With new shows (movies are a bit different) I still don't have that option, so I either need to pay for the big cable package or wait until they go to Netflix. With new movies, I typically pay the $4.99 to rent from Amazon if I really want to see it.
Identify theft is different, since that typically comes with credit card fraud, access to someone's bank accounts where you can steal real money, or true harm to someone's credit. Me downloading the first season of a show to see if I like it enough to subscribe to that premium channel is different in my mind.
Now, I now full well that there are people just downloading in mass without any intention of paying for similar content later. But still, a lot of what is downloaded would never be paid for in another manner (either because you can't get it or would never pay for it). This is where the free marketing element comes in. Impossible to quantify accurately, but it's a real thing.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||I'm by no means an expert in||
I'm by no means an expert in the business of broadcasting and content production, but I understand the major broadcasters (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX) to have two major streams of revenue - advertising and fees from cable/satellite providers (e.g., comcast, DirecTV). Let's throw cable/premium TV channels out of this discussion, because Aereo wasn't able to pull the ESPNs, AMCs, HBOs, etc. off the airwaves by antenna and broadcast to their customers via internet. The focus, instead, was on the network channels of these broadcasters (around 8 or 10 I think in total). The broadcasters get major fees from the likes of Comcast and DirecTV for the right to broadcast those channels via set top boxes. These are the fees that Aereo was not paying under the argument that they were only doing what a regular John Doe with their own personal antenna were doing - just pulling down broadcasts from the free public airwaves.
TLDR - The broadcasters were going after the cable provider fees that Aereo was not paying. Presumably, an Aereo subscriber is just moving from one cable access point to another, one where the broadcasters weren't getting their cut, so I would guess advertising dollars didn't have much to do with this.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||In what part of the country||
In what part of the country do you live? I got the same deal but for $49.99 about 4 months ago...
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Tell that to Robin Hood!!!||
Tell that to Robin Hood!!!
|9 weeks 1 day ago||The Aereo argument was that||
The Aereo argument was that they were not providing a service (like a cable provider - e.g., Comcast), but that they were providing access to equipment. That equipment was an antenna (one per customer) that was effectivley leased to the customer and kept with all of the other antennas at a warehouse. They argued that no antenna or TV manufacturer has ever been made to pay fees to broadcast companies, so why should we.
Now, differentiating Aereo from the services/equipment business model of cable and satellite TV providers was where it looks like they couldn't win. Cable/Satellite providers have had to pay broadcast companies fees since the 90s I think.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Content producers will and||
Content producers will and should make money off their content, totally agreed. I just hope that the powerful producers / providers of content don't fight so hard against anything other than the status-quo that revoltionary products/services designed to make consumer life better have no shot from the jump because they can't afford legal battles. A-la-carte entertainment is coming, eventually, and I think most people who are aware of their options are fine with subscription services as a starting point. I pay for Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Spotify, and feel I get more out of those services than what I pay. I'm sort of the opposite of you, in that I hate commercials.
The one thing I still need a cable subscription for is sports. Now, I'm not above borrowing a cable login or an illegal stream (or download) from time to time, but as I said above, producers of content deserve to profit...I suppose...
|9 weeks 3 days ago||You are likely dead on in||
You are likely dead on in your analysis, but all I hear you describing is AAU basketball on steroids. Is that really something the US should aim for? Aren't we (the collective sports fan we) always discussing how currupt the AAU basketball system has become with its handlers and "scouts" taking advantage of young, typically black, typically on the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum, basketball players? Do we, as a society, really want another form of that to serve our inherent need to dominate all of sport? I mean, you describe Messi being shipped from Argentina to Barcelona as a feather in the cap of soccer development in these other countries. To some extent, I guess the US imports plenty of talented young people for the same reasons, but I hope we can agree that the stakeholers really only did that so they could profit off a soccer wunderkind at some point in the future.
I'm likely bias (or simply not bias towards soccer I suppose) because I never played the sport, but why on earth should we move towards a soccer development system that takes young athletes out of a normal childhood and a typical education, all for the slight possibility that this program churns out a few elite players every few years in order to bump us up a few spots in the FIFA world rankings in 2030? That may work in poor or third world countries in Latin America or Africa, because the alternative isn't a typical education, it's some form of blue collar work, or much worse. However, in the US, there are real alternatives outside of playing for a Premier League team for the 99.9% of young soccer players that aren't good enough. Given that, especially for the American kids whose situations closer resemble those in Brazil/Africa instead of the upper middle class, our collective focus should be more on education and "real" opportunities instead of developing a world class soccer pipeline to make us all feel better about America's dominance of all athletic competition.
I suppose I just made an argument against any sort of travel/club youth sports teams (be it baseball, basketball, hockey, etc.), but our brand/level of youth involvement doesn't appear to come close to soccer in a lot of other countries we seem to aspire to (except maybe hockey - those travel team schedules are crazy).
|9 weeks 5 days ago||DJ Wilson, Kam Chatman, Ricky||
DJ Wilson, Kam Chatman, Ricky Doyle, MAAR, Aubrey Dawkins, Austin Hatch
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Jinx||
|9 weeks 6 days ago||When they lost the pick to||
When they lost the pick to the Bobcats, now that was a real kick in the nuts. But now?!?! Those Hornets fellas are the real deal. I win with them all the time in NBA Jam and NBA Live '94!
|11 weeks 19 hours ago||These guys are great. Thanks||
These guys are great. Thanks for sharing. I'm always on the lookout for new music from bands/artists that actually have, ya know, talent (no disrespect to pit bull or Kesha fans out there). This stuff is perfect to have on while working or reading. Any idea of they plan to play in DC at some point?
|11 weeks 1 day ago||This guy must not have looked||
This guy must not have looked at, ya know, actual players that Izzo has coached and their NBA results. For a guy who has been coaching for almost 20 years at MSU, and has gotten top tier high school talent for most of that time, the dearth of NBA success is pretty compelling,
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Yes, thank you. People||
Yes, thank you. People forget how amazing Jesus Shuttlesworth was in the late 90s early-mid 00s. Not only has he always been a great shooter, but the guy was an above avg. finisher at the rim for a guard. I think he was even in a dunk contest (may have won?). Nik is several rungs below young Ray Allen as an athlete.
Someone said Kerry Kittles above, that definitely makes sense as a comparison. Another "non-racist" comparison could be Rip Hamilton (as a ceiling), or Wally Szcerbiak (although he was a bit bigger), or even someone like Joseph Forte (to be pessimistic), Aaron Aflalo, or Joe Johnson.
His ceiling is not a superstar, unfortunately he doesn't have the raw athleticism to take over games by himself. That said, a 15-20 ppg scorer that can avg around 5 reb and 5 assists as a second guy on a bad team or third guy on a good to great team is nothing to sneeze at.
|13 weeks 21 hours ago||Awful comparison for several||
Awful comparison for several reasons - a few: