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|6 days 10 hours ago||UW > UM right now||
How is Wisconsin NOT a better job right now.
1) Program stability: Wisconsin has had 3 coaches since 1990 and the last two have been to multiple Rose Bowls. Alvarez was considered one of the best in the country, and if it wasn't for Lloyd Carr, he'd probably have had more than just Rose Bowl wins (we owned him while everyone else in the B1G struggled against Barry).
2) Consistency: Over those three coaches, Wisconsin has relied on a very stable formula of strong offensive line play, running backs who can follow blocks, and consistent defense. As long as their quarterback play was better than a dead stiff, they were a 9 to 10 win team and always in the hunt for a conference championship. Again, this is more than Michigan can say over the past decade.
3) Expectations vs. Reality: This is part of the quality of a job. Michigan fans have become delusional over what can be done. Tantilized by a football past and reality that no longer exists, we expect to run over the B1G every year like Bo did. But we don't have unlimited scholarships, the state and it's football talent is in decline, MSU has risen, as has Wisconsin, and Ohio State will almost always be good because they are the only show in a state that is football rich, even in a declining rust belt. Meanwhile, Wisconsin fans are a bit more realistic - which means an off year or two won't lead to everyone calling for your job, or laughing at you for clapping or not wearing a head set.
4) Your athletic director is the football coach who built the damn program. Translation, yes, that's a lot to live up to, but he knows what it takes to make the football team successful. Other athletic directors can do a good job overall, but might not understand the specific support the coaching staff needs. Alvarez does, and seems to do it without interference. That's key! Meanwhile, Michigan continues to move through athletic directors with limited athletic experience, and eventually, the CEO as AD doesn't work, because they need to understand how athletics works internally.
5) Madison is a great town, even in winter. It's not inferior to Wisconsin, and again, Wisconsin isn't a state in decline. I love Michigan, but Detroit has hit rock bottom. It might be approaching turn around status, but Wisconsin hasn't been hit like Michigan. Advantage Wisconsin.
When you start looking at it, the only advantage that Michigan provides over Wisconsin is alumni with deeper pockets and tradition, that anyone under 30 knows little about. Our last national title was 1997 - when I graduated from college. That was 17 years ago ... in today's world, that might as well have never occurred.
Sorry, Gary Anderson, with no natural ties to Michigan would be making a lateral move into instabiltiy, whereas he has a prime program with stability and no reason to risk it.
|6 days 14 hours ago||Fire Hoke in hopes of what?||
Okay, don't support Michigan football anymore. Fine. But the one question everyone keeps forgetting is this: Who is out there that would be a better hire than Hoke that you KNOW you can get.
This is the scenario Michigan fans are ignoring or are just delusional with. Look at most of the major college football hires over the last decade and ask - who got their big splash hire? Or how many had to settle. And how many big splash hires actually panned out?
USC has twice hired since Carrol left for the NFL. Hires: Kiffy-Cakes and Sark. Neither very impressive - but rather, lets go and hire a former Carrol assistant and hope it works out.
Texas fired Mack Brown and got ... Charlie Strong. This is one of the premiere jobs in all of sport, and no offense to Charlie Strong - not the big hire the fan base nor alumni wanted. Swing and wiff.
Miami - Well, they used to be good, but in their two hires since firing Coker - Randy Shannon and Al Golden - coaches who had ties to the U - but not a homerun hire.
Oregon - I know the timing wasn't great, but they were essentially forced to hire within. This is basically a school where money has become no object and uniformz galore. Yet they hired an assistant on the staff. Swing and miss - they still can't get over the hump.
Penn State - James Franklin. That's it, the coach at Vanderbilt. Meh.
Tennessee - Lane Kiffin and Butch Jones. The first all flash and no substance. The latter, meh.
Notre Dame - Brian Kelly. So you essentially hired a former D2, MAC and Big East coach at minor schools. Not the big hitter they hoped for.
The home run hires: OSU - Urban Myer. But this was as much fortuitous as it was anything else. Urbz gives up on Florida a year later or earlier, or Tressel survives one more year, or Fickle is even halfway competent and this never happens. Lucky. Urban was out of a job (how likely was that to happen) and Ohio State needed a coach. Besides, if things went differently at Penn State, it's not crazy to think he'd be there.
Alabama - Saban. Lets keep in mind, they lucked into this too. Saban had turned them down, repeatedly. And in the meantime, who accepted the job - Rich Rodriguez. And then he pulled out, and that gave them one more shot at Saban. But prior to that, look at the struggle they had landing a big time coach.
Arkansas - Landing Bielema was a bit of coup at the time. 3 straight rose bowl appearances. But it took how many years for him to just win his first SEC game. So much for the big splash.
UCLA - Jim Mora, Jr. - he was a pro retread. Yeah, nice, but not splashy or a huge name.
Louisville - Petrino. Uh, who else was going to hire him out of WKU after the mess at Arkansas and the Atlanta Falcons. And the way he left the 'Ville the first time.
The bottom line is this, Harbaugh probably isn't coming. Miles isn't coming. Stoops isn't coming. Neither is Mullen, nor Patterson (he's a Big 12 coach now - he has a seat at the big boys table), nor Briles (not while Texas is down), nor any other big names. So which mid major head coach is up to the challenge, and that you fans won't go all Hoke on?
Hoke gets another year. Yeah, he might suck, but it provides a bit of a chance for some more stability in the program before a change. It allows a new AD to really get an idea of what are the main problems with Michigan football (like the university, a decaying population base and wealth base in the home state, and a challenge recruiting football players and top faculty to a crumbling location), and then make an intelligent hire.
Another year of Hoke is not as bad as going for a home run hit, striking out badly, and then limping to a mid major coach who is as bad or worse than Hoke ... killing this program for another decade.
Besides, even if Harbaugh came here, who is the say he'd stay more than 4 years, or that he wouldn't alienate everyone in four years (winning or not)?
|1 week 4 days ago||Saban claps||
After good plays and mistakes like a special teams player running into the field late - Nick Saban claps his hands. Fire him now!!!
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Failed NFL coach||
Yeah, USC agrees with you after the Pete Carroll experiment.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Do some research on NR sports benefitting the university||
I'm not surprised to see ignorant comments about non-revenue sports perpetuated on mgoblog, but that doesn't stop me from commenting on them either.
Non-revenue sports are a recruiting tool to the larger mission of the university, which is attracting the best possible students. By offering competitive varsity athletic opportunities, you and attract and retain some very bright, engaging and successful student-athletes who might have decided to go elsewhere for their undergraduate education. Competing at division 1 athletics, regardless of revenue-generating or non-revenue generating athletics better prepares you for balancing the complexities of post-graduation life, and helps improve connections and obtaining desirable jobs.
Therefore, having successful non-revenue sports gives Michigan an advantage of recruiting the female athlete who has a 34 ACT, 4.5 weighted GPA, and is a standout cross-country/track and field athlete who wants to study civil engineering, over say, Northwestern, which barely offers a program, or Rose Hulman, in which her athletic career would essentially come to an end. When she graduates, with an engineering degree, and starts working, her ties to the university will be stronger than many of the general population at Michigan because of her athletic experience - therefore, more likely to make donations and contributions to the University.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Michigan Brand||
The jersey's were okay. The striping on the numbers were a bit different, as were some of the other effects. The Blue pants were okay ... but here is my biggest concern,
Watching the game, I couldn't tell if that was Michigan out there, or the University of Toledo, or some other blue and yellow school. Lost in this whole uniform craze thing is the distinctive look of a school.
We played Penn State. Penn State has had that classic, sharp, nothing changed about it look for decades. Why not just have us match up with them in a classic looking game. If you're playing a school that doesn't have the same tradition, then sure, maybe that is a game to trot out something new. But when you play a school that is steeped in a traditional look, or a traditional rival, why do you think you need some new uniform that ultimately detracts from the clear recognizable look of the team.
Just a thought.
|41 weeks 6 days ago||It can be done||
I ran briefly at Michigan, and there have been a number of XC/TF athletes in engineering. And for these athletes, you need to consider they are in competitive seasons from September - November, and then January - May; essentially the entire academic year. So there is no offseason.
|41 weeks 6 days ago||Getting there||
As a coach, the recruiting process is quite interesting. As a 17/18 year old, you better have been getting your name out there early and often. You don't hold all the cards, they still hold many of them. Often, a recruit becomes more desired as more schools start to get to know them. Their ability might not have improved, but one of the big rules of recruiting is - if you lose, you better lose with the guys everyone else wanted, not the guys no one else wanted (you'll get more time if you demonstrate you're a good recruiter than if you don't).
|46 weeks 3 days ago||Wrapping my head around it||
I can't begin to imagine how anyone could pull a U turn on a freeway and then head up an on ramp - and then manage to collide with another vehicle. Not only must alcohol or other controlled substances be involved, but they must be the worst driver ever.
|1 year 24 weeks ago||Still haunts me ...||
Freshman year. Up 26-14 in the 4th, crowd shouting overrated and singing Goodbye to Colorado ... 3 runs and a punt for multiple possessions, rush only 3 on the final play - knock the damn ball down!!
|1 year 38 weeks ago||Bad things happening - it already has ...||
I believe there were two incidents in the late 90s/early 2000s involving Nebraska football and Miami (OH) football players walking off the field as the crowd stormed it. In both cases a player, having lost, ended up striking fans (of course they were drunk) who were charging the field and intimidating them.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||40 times||
Are quite inaccurate of a measurement, even at the combine. As a track guy, I laugh at the measurement. The NFL has what it needs, he's fast. Then you look at the tape and see how explosive he is, and the ability to run away from everyone on the field.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||A big issue||
Alone this isn't a huge story unless your a UT grad and want pristine heroes. However late last year UT suspended their long time, very successful women's track and field coach just months after giving her a huge raise. She was let go at the beginning of the year just prior to the indoor season based on a consensual relationship with an athlete. She has since considered legal action vs. Texas (probably will claim discrimination based on her race, gender and sexual orientation).
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Makes sense||
Weeden is a pick machine (even at OSU he made bad decisions he got away with). McCoy has good mobility and could do some zone-read if needed. Spread the field, give him options, and then have Richardson plow through a spread out D.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Losing teams and alma mater?||
I respect this young man and his respect for his school, his fans, himself and the game, but how often does the losing teams band play their alma mater, particularly on a road loss (which you could assume would be similar to a bowl loss)?
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Correction||
When he was hired, he was repeatedly assured the issue was a legal one and that any NCAA involvement would be minimal. That is why they changed his contract after the sanctions were handed down.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Joining Ron English's staff||
At EMU is the most likely spot. Get turned down at Iowa for OC and then witness the tire fire their offense has become - makes sense to leave.
|1 year 50 weeks ago||Just for fun||
|2 years 3 days ago||Apparently reading is difficult||
If you would actually read my post, I made a number of observations based on my coaching experience and compared to my days as an athlete. I'm hardly an old man (mid 30s), so perhaps you can go re-read my comments.
I never advocated blindly following anyone, but there was a certain amount of respect athletes had for coaches. Did I ever question my coach, yes? Was there a right way to do it? Absolutely. I never upstaged my coach, a trainer or staff during practice. I knew I could talk to them after practice. I'm not sure that Barker did that at.
As for stereotyping, I'm in the classroom daily and on the practice field. This is what I see. And from fellow coaches, many from 30 and over, they've noticed much of the same things. You see, sometimes us "old men" actually have something called wisdom. It comes from experience. You see things. You can track trends. You notice how things change over time. Sure, we're succeptible to comparing things to the days of old (these student-athletes are very fortunate today and I wish I had much of what they had ...). I realize that many of them have it harder in some respects - much of my friends grew up in stable home environments, which many of these athletes don't have.
BTW - I've shared this view with one of my friends who has done multiple tours, including in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he'd agree with the generalization. You might want to consider what a generalization is, and why people use it, effectively. I didn't say everyone was like this, but when I read the comments by the athlete in question, I instantly begin to wonder what his motives were, and if he's correct.
Post Script - we see Jerry Kill's response. He wasn't being a jerk by not rewarding the kid a scholarship, there was a time limit. Oklahoma had a similar situation with a running back a few years ago, and consider the walk on wide receiver at Michigan State a few years back. I believe he initially started when John L was there, and bridged over to the Dantonio era. Can't remember the name right now, but lets not assume the coach is a jerk because most kids today have been told they are great since day 1.
|2 years 4 days ago||Perspectives from a coach||
Kids are much different these days, and it's mostly NOT good.
There was something about the old days in terms of responses to an authority figure. One - in an age when sports medicine is so advanced, techniques for warmup and post-workout recovery is so high, yet athletes don't seem to want to put the time in doing it right. they're too damn worried about the latest video game, who's tweeting what, and the bs that goes with life these days.
Two - injured athletes in general, don't approach rehab work the same way they do training. The best do, but most use it as an opportunity to slack. I've watched injured athletes skip rehab sessions, not fully stretch, ignore warnings, and even goof around and work the injured areas in non-workout activities, only to watch them complain about it later. I adopted a simple policy this year - if you skipped going to the trainers room before school for rehab (we have 3 certified AT's on campus), you're healthy enough to practice without restrictions. This generation thinks because they can google stuff that they are suddenly full of wisdom. Forget the fact that most of them don't actually do much research, but even when they do, that means they have information. They can't synthesize, analyze or evaluate worth anything and might be a generation dumber than any other in time.
Three - everyone always says they work hard and are dedicated. Well, I started to hear that too much by athletes skipping rehab, skipping practices, eating poorly, etc. So I've put together a list of "What you'll need to do when you say, 'I want to get better'". This list is quite exhaustive, but it embodies the person who really means "I want to get better". That phrase is as trite and overused as "I love you". Okay, show me. I've adapted it to the classroom as well. Most athletes won't do half of what's on the list, so It's a good reminder of what they really need to do.
Four - coddled. As a teacher/coach, these kids are the weakest and laziest I could imagine. They all think they are good because they are told that and they have the participation ribbons to show it. I had one of my senior athletes tell me in a written post-race evaluation that they were proud of their last performance because, even though they missed their PR by over 2 minutes, they fought hard on the course and attacked the tough parts, oh and finally beat a teammate that they never beat before in a race, but beat regularly in practice. Great, because there is nothing more that I want then you being happy with a horrible race performance and focusing on finishing ahead of teammates.
I don't know Jerry Kill, and he might be an ass, but honestly, I know too many of these athletes today are spoiled, coddled, and their comments should be viewed with MASSIVE amounts of skepticism. My high school coach in one of my sports was a jerk. And yet I made sure that I ran for my teammates and myself, and I learned to deal with it. My parents supported me, but never offered to get involved. I confronted my jerk coach, and he listened, he made some changes, even though much of the damage was done, but we handled it like two adults.
Maybe that's the lesson here. Sack up, confront Coach Kill and deal with it. Great job quitting on your teammates. And then publicly crying about it during the season, not waiting until the season was over. Great way to rip your team apart.
Two words for a kid like that: Selfish d-bag.
|2 years 4 weeks ago||Ignorance is embarrassing||
A track is more than just an oval of concrete. Whether indoor orb outdoor, you have a very specialized coating that goes over the concrete that is designed to provide some cushion while maximizing return energy for each stride. In addition, it has to withstand the spikes of the runners season after season, and in a place like Michigan constant use in the winter. It's sad that a school like GVSU has an amazing indoor facility with grandstands, huge video screen, beautiful locker rooms, great athletic training facilities, etc.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||I'm hoping your comment||
Is as sarcastic as I suspect the OP was.
|2 years 7 weeks ago||Troy Nunes||
I think we racked up a safety or two in that game. For years hence Nunes became a verb among our friends and it was always followed by a reference to Dr. Zaius. Good times.
|2 years 17 weeks ago||Worst case scenario for Penn State still isn't that bad||
It's July 23rd, fall camps will start in a few weeks, meaning no juniors or seniors are transfering from Penn State, not starters who are returning for sure. Why would you transfer right before fall camp to coaches that don't know you, to a system you don't know, when you have no time to prepare. Good luck breaking into the starting line up.
They'll be fine next year, as USC showed the first year of their sanctions, even with Lane Kiffin as coach. Seasons two and three will be rough and they'll probably bottom out to around 3 or 4 wins by the end of the sanctions period. At that point, as already mentioned, the facilities will still be in place, the huge stadium, Pennsylvania will still be pumping out football players, and if O'Brien is a bad coach, he'll be sacked, and an up and coming assistant or MAC type coach will be drooling over the chance to come into Happy Valley and rebuild the program. They'll have the instant selling point of starting immediately, by then, something horrific will have happened at another program and people will have lessened their hate, and the improvement will be on.
In fact, the worst thing that might happen to Penn State is they are mediocre with O'Brien during this period, they retain him, and perhaps they stay mediocre. While as a coach, it's hard to argue Joe Paterno build the program, and to a lesser extent the school, much like Bowden, the program had declined strongly under him, even with the occasional good season (see 2005). By falling flat on their faces during this period, they can begin a completely new building process. Oklahoma did this, Texas did this, USC did this, a lot of programs fell hard, and then rebuilt. Penn State has everything in place to do the same, and the region will remain loyal.
|2 years 17 weeks ago||Much ado about nothing||
I personally like traditional, clean cut, simple jerseys. But I'm also a 36 year old former student and briefly athlete. What does my opinion matter. Am one of 85 men on scholarship to play football at Michigan? Am I an incoming recruit? No, neither of them, so my opinion means about as much as almost everyone on this board - NOTHING!
This does help recruiting. And yes, before you come running at me with Alabama, Texas, USC, and Oklahoma - lets just be honest here - how many national titles have these teams won in the past decade, or even played for? We had 2 straight losing seasons, a few 4 and 5 loss seasons, and honestly, no one cares about tradition of the program anymore. If they did, Notre Dame wouldn't still be trying to wake up the echos for the better part of two decades now. Furthermore, USC and Texas are the flagship programs in two of the most fertile recruiting states. Michigan, if you haven't noticed, isn't a hotbed for tons of top prospects.
Even classic programs like Ohio State have done the alternate jersey thing (and at a much worse level), and they've played for 3 national championships in the last ten years (cheaters or not).
Finally, I think Brian went through and detailed last year the history of the white road jersey - and it has been constantly under some sort of change. Maybe not every year, but at least once a decade, if not more. So it's not like they are messing with the home jersey which has pretty much remained the same since at least Ol' Number 98 was bringing Buckeye fans to their feet in the Horseshoe.
My thoughts from an elder Wolverine.
|2 years 17 weeks ago||What makes our distinguished University sound stupid||
Has always been the addition of You Suck at the end of Temptation. We didn't do it when I was a student ('98), but sometime shortly after it started. It's not even clever, it's offensive, and can't we come up with something better - oh yeah, Go Blue. And no, Go Blue never sounds stupid, up by 3 scores, down by 5 scores (oh, the RichRod era).
As for doing it while the US Air Force Academy is playing us, and their cadets are watching ... you're right, they are tougher than almost every member of the student body. And I'm sure they won't even be able to make out what is being said, but that isn't the point. Remember, that entire student body has signed up to protect this country. While we can have different views on prior US military action (most of which is not decided upon by the military - our commander in chief is a civilian commander) they go and serve where they are told and when they are told. They put their lives at risk defending most of us, who live under and are able to do what we want because of that protection. Not always perfect, but definitely honorable.
In summary, You Suck is a stupid cheer and should be cut out permanently. However, it might be a nice touch to do it starting with the Air Force game. My opinion.
|2 years 18 weeks ago||And what were his findings ....||
As it relates to current or former employees outside of "the four". I am beginning to find it hard to believe that many, many others were aware of and involved in this situation. This to include PSU officials and current board members., coaching staff under Joe, other administrators, not to mention the entire Second Mile board and some or perhaps many community members.
|2 years 23 weeks ago||The state of track and field at Michigan||
I briefly ran for the Maize and Blue, and so it's important to see them be successful. Michigan has had or did have many long-term coaches, some of which have left in recent years (Warhurst being the foremost). Henry (women's) and LaPlante (men) have been around for a significant amount of time, particulary Henry, and the program's haven't improved much. Now, Wisconsin is a conference powerhouse, and Penn State has had some good teams, particuarly on the women's side a few years ago, but Michigan should be more competitive. It might be time to replace the head coaches on both sides. Plus, there were questions about what really happened when, after Michigan's surprise title in 2008 (I believe) why Warhurst and LaPlante switched places. (being a distance coach, I'd rather just be able to do my thing and let someone else run the team, until it involves scholarships, that's a different beast).
Gibby needs time, as he seems to coach more toward the 5 and 10k, longer distances, where Warhurst really, really excelled with that 1500 - 5000 type runner throughout his career. And I think Gibby is going to be good in the long run.
Not sure what is going on with McGuire. The women were exceptionally tough, pushing Wisconsin to the edge or beating them, and then after the about 2006, it's been rough since. He's had some good runners, but not dominant like prior. And it was shortly after that run that Stanford allegedly came calling, and he turned them down. Of course, I don't think he has the professional group he had in the mid 2000s of Anna Pierce, Katie Waites, Lindsey Gallo, and others (another 1500 meter runner from Cornell). That might play a role.
I did notice the men had only 3 paid coaches, with 4 volunteer assistants. While two are probably Gibby's former runners still training with him, you'd like to see all the event groups at a Big Ten school actually getting at least part time pay.
|2 years 29 weeks ago||Quick question||
How does Toney Clemons get drafted ahead of Hemmingway? Sometimes I have no idea what NFL front offices are thinking. Then again, what does my opinion matter.
|2 years 29 weeks ago||being in the tempe area||
That kid is a complete waste of talent. Cincinnati will soon discover that.