Re. "You Suck!"
Re. the "You Suck!" at the end of the 3rd down stop version of Temptation, can we please please please stop it?
It's seriously trashy and classless, totally unbefitting the caliber of institution that Michigan is. Maybe a difference in the way they are mic'ing crowd noise this year, but I noticed it more prominently than usual during the game on Saturday, and am noticing it a lot as I watch the game again right now.
I don't know if this is exclusively a student section thing or the whole stadium saying it. But, whoever it is, stop. You're embarrassing yourselves and Michigan. Come up with something more clever / less trashy.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:46 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 1:54 AM ^
Yes, it's been used (as part of different chants) in hockey. But it definitely has not been used in football for 10+ years, as the above poster claimed.
And even in hockey, if I'm not mistaken, don't the students do the "Goalie! Sieve!" chant during "Temptation"? They don't just mindlessly repeat "You suck" over and over.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:54 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 9:06 AM ^
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the chant has been around since at least 1996 when I was a student there. And I've been chanting it ever since then. Its great. Have you ever been to a Duke basketball game? Ever listened to the chants they have? They're arguably the best fan base in sports and their chants are great and much more offensive than "you suck." This whole conversation is a perfect example of why opposing teams are not scared of the Big House. You're all a bunch of old geezers who like to golf clap and wiggle keys instead of standing and yelling. My advice for the people who don't like the student section chants - stay home or go to an NFL game. The students are what make college football great. Without the students, there is no college football. Period.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:28 AM ^
Have you ever been to a Duke basketball game? Ever listened to the chants they have? They're arguably the best fan base in sports
Aaaaand, that's where your argument failed.
September 8th, 2010 at 4:29 PM ^
You failed to cite the entire provision. The statement that they're arguably the best fan base in sports ended with the statement that they have many more offensive cheers that the "You Suck" cheer. Aaaaaand that's where your criticsm of my statement fails.
September 8th, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^
Jezus. And you say we old creaky alums are cranky?
I don't object to chants and cheers. I love that our students are engaged and contribute to the gameday atmosphere. But I'd love to see us come up with something that's a little more clever and original than "you suck." We're Michigan. We are capable of being way more insulting, cerebral, and amusing. That's why hockey is a lot of fun. And it looks like they're trying to create a similar group of student fans at the soccer games, which is great (yes, we worthless grey-haired alums even support non-rev sports, go figure. Or did you want us to stay home from those, too?).
I know it would be a big undertaking, to get several huge sections crammed with geared-up students to adopt something else. But I'll bet with some leadership and creativity it could be done.
September 8th, 2010 at 11:27 AM ^
Isn't this the cheering equivalent of "Ann Arbor is a whore!" LOLOL MeatChicken sux! Go Green wooooo!
September 8th, 2010 at 11:53 AM ^
I'm fighting off the urge to thank you after you punched me in the face
September 8th, 2010 at 11:59 AM ^
Every time after the opposing teams hears "YOU SUCK", they get all intimidated and go into a shell.
And without students PLAYING, there is no college football, period. If it was only with the students watching, the game wouldn't start till midway through the 1st quarter.
September 8th, 2010 at 3:40 PM ^
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the chant has been around since at least 1996 when I was a student there.
No it hasn't. It defintiely was not chanted in the student section in 1998-2002.
You're all a bunch of old geezers who like to golf clap and wiggle keys instead of standing and yelling.
Dude, it's the students who wiggle keys. Don't pin that on the alums.
September 8th, 2010 at 2:10 AM ^
Because they represent the University as a University sponsored group, we were explicitly forbidden from saying words like "suck" or "chump, dick, wuss, douchebag......"
Not that we didn't partake here and there, but it was always without hand motions and the vocals were always under our breathe for anything remotely bordering on vulgar/obscene.
Credit here goes to the student section.
September 8th, 2010 at 2:20 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 8:48 AM ^
Nope, the band doesn't make the phone ring. The phone is in the press box, and whenever it rings (and it's usually audible), the chant happens.
September 8th, 2010 at 3:03 AM ^
This may be true about the hockey band.
BUT when I was @ND for the football game in 2008 I thought I heard the band say something very interesting on the way into the stadium.
They were marching into ND Stadium getting screamed at by ND fans, and they were saying this phrase as they marched that ended with "f*ck you Go Blue!"
Now it is entirely possible that I misheard what they were saying. But I was not the only one. Someone please educate me if you know more.
Anyways, I loved it!
September 8th, 2010 at 7:41 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 3:52 AM ^
To everyone proclaiming "X tradition started when I was there"....unless you wrote the Victors, you don't gain special Michigan cred just because a random student tradition started when you were there, so stop making up stuff (or believing it if you actually do) about whatever chant/body motion/etc being started by your class. At least 90% of these proclamations on timing are just flat out wrong anyway.
September 8th, 2010 at 6:03 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 7:55 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 1:44 AM ^
Hasn't been going on for 10 years, since it started while I was there, and I was a freshman in 2003. They also changed it from the chop to the claw, which looks pretty terrible as well. Not only is you suck classless, its unoriginal. I can't help but think less of the student section every time I hear it.
September 8th, 2010 at 2:09 AM ^
If you are thinking more about the student section rather than what is happening on the field well then I am sorry for you.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:36 AM ^
I agree. I remember this starting almost 5 years ago. I hated it then and still hate it now. I know there are some people that really think it's cool, but I'm with the sentiment above. Please, please, please stop.
2 Proposals:
Replace "you suck" with "go blue" until something else is better.
OR
nothing at all, do the chop and be happy for the stop.
September 8th, 2010 at 2:19 AM ^
while I'm completely opposed to the "you suck " part (which started my sophomore year 2004) do not ever call it the chop.
last I checked wolverines do not chop or have a tomahawk. they have a claw.
it's the claw!!!!
September 8th, 2010 at 3:06 AM ^
Seriously, I cannot take anyone seriously who wants to stop the "You Suck" but calls it the chop!
It has not been the chop ever, and yet I see people doing it all the time. It baffles me.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:57 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 7:15 AM ^
It's not a goddam tomahawk, it's signalling a first down for Michigan. At least that's one explanation.
The claw is lame. In the spirit of this thread: I was there when it was invented, and I knew the guy who worked for the Daily and came up with it. He always had the zealots' gleam in his eye when he talked about the claw. v
We're Michigan dammit! We don't need to be literal-minded about everything.
Oh, and on 'You Suck.' It's not so much that it's offensive - really, it's not. It's just fucking stupid. You sound like third-graders on the playground. Embarrassing.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:45 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 9:09 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 3:47 PM ^
It's not supposed to be a chop or a "claw." It's supposed to be a closed fist.
September 8th, 2010 at 4:16 PM ^
I can get behind this. Someone alert the Daily.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:41 AM ^
I hate to break it to you because you're obviously not a fan of the chant... but the "you suck!" isn't just at the end of temptation. That's just when it's the most prominent because the band drops out. They actually sing "you suck" as the melody all the the way through the song. They seem to have quite a bit of fun doing it, so I don't know if your plea has any prayer of being answered. It goes something like this:
"You, you suck, you suck, youuuuu suck." (Trumpets take over...)
"You, you suck, you suck, you suck, suck. YOU SUCK (the one you hear)!"
Good luck changing that one.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:46 AM ^
Yeah, there would have to be some kind of replacement lyrics because the students are now used to singing something during it. Regardless, it should be changed. It's lame, and the alums will never get into it. A chant coming from one corner of the stadium is not that intimidating.
September 8th, 2010 at 2:56 AM ^
Unfortunately, at most games the rest of the stadium doesn't get very intimidating at any point during the game.
Honestly, I just don't think this is a big deal. Anyone who bases their opinion of UM on one two-word chant is...well, not busy enough. I think there are an infinite number of things that prove that UM is classy on gameday alone and the fact that UM's drunk ass students say "you suck" at a game will never be enough to tarnish those things.
September 8th, 2010 at 3:49 PM ^
at most games the rest of the stadium doesn't get very intimidating at any point during the game.
That's what happens when the students and alums aren't on the same page, as is currently the case. Come up with a chant that the whole stadium can get into. That's where it gets intimidating.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:41 AM ^
September 8th, 2010 at 7:20 AM ^
- Kill it with fire
- Get off my damn lawn
- Epic fail
- I see what you did there
- Stop fisting the platypus
September 8th, 2010 at 7:50 AM ^
Not as in another really, really tired phrase, but as in what you just did to me; I need a well-worn path to cleverness.
September 8th, 2010 at 9:14 AM ^
I didn't realize you were in charge of keeping track of trivia.
Do you also know how many licks it takes to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?
September 8th, 2010 at 1:43 AM ^
Are you the same old man that sits 2 row above me saying they think the "ring of death" in pregame is "thug-like"?
September 8th, 2010 at 7:22 AM ^
The ring of death guy said that because he doesn't like black people. 'Thug' is usually a giveaway.
OP is complaining because he doesn't like stupid people.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:44 AM ^
I always sing the real lyrics to Temptation
September 8th, 2010 at 1:51 AM ^
Another problem with the "you suck" chant is it is often chanted at inappropriate times. For example, it is chanted on third down even when it is obvious that the opposing team will go for it on fourth down. Then the fans look stupid when the team goes for it on fourth down and converts.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:53 AM ^
Are you me?
September 8th, 2010 at 3:08 AM ^
Well maybe Temptation should be held off in these instances.
I was always under the impression that Temptation was for a defensive stop. So if the band didnt play it when the other team was CLEARLY going for it, the problem would be solved.
No?
September 8th, 2010 at 8:16 AM ^
I have never heard the crowd do it without being started by the band...not the crowds fault
September 8th, 2010 at 12:07 PM ^
I hate this chant too, but this is what bugs me the most. I always look at the students around me wondering why they think the other team sucks when they are about to kick a field goal or attempt to conevert a fourth and short.
September 8th, 2010 at 1:52 AM ^
I'm not opposed to the chant, but at least don't do it after 3rd down in an obvious 4th down situation. That's just stupid.
September 8th, 2010 at 2:00 AM ^
its been going on for years (at least 2003, i think earlier). and making angry posts on mgoblog sure as shit aren't going to change a thing.
September 8th, 2010 at 2:02 AM ^
...................... ........................ ............................... .... ... ..... ....... at least it's better than the offseason (but not really).