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|1 hour 46 min ago||My predictions:Michigan -||
Michigan - 38
KSU - 24
1. Michigan's coaching staff stops trying to push the power scheme so much and instead ideologically adjusts to calling what the current players run most efficiently (still in a pro style offense, but adjustable to have more or less spread/power elements depending on personel). This is a trend that continues into 2014 and provides us all much-needed hope. The prototypical example of this is the great frequency at which M tries to make the power I work, with little success. Yes, you must keep defenses honest, but there were a number of times this year where a run up the gut was ill-advised given the personel we have.
2. Derrick Green makes a strong case for starting RB in 2014 by consistently picking up 3, 4, 6 yards with a few 10+ yarders interspersed. Toussaint plays largely the role of a third down back. Smith shows a bit of that "gliding" running style from the OSU game and appears to be moving into a much-valued change of pace RB role.
3. The OL looks much more cohesive and as a result, Gardner finally has a chance to spend 60 minutes developing his progressions instead of running for his life.
4. The team and coaching staff is happy with the win but alludes to a driving will to get vengeance in 2014.
5. Devin Funchess, having finalized his move to WR with his play this year, has 80-100 yards receiving and a brilliant TD which pushes us into conversation about a potential number switch to #1. His offseason is more than enough to earn him the jersey.
6. The coaching staff pulls a Beilein and opens up their offensive philosophy for next year. They decide to expand on the "controlling tempo" principle by not just utilizing clock-control offense, but also adding the ability to run offense at multiple tempoes (i.e. no huddle). 2014 revenge tour (a la 2006) commence.
|1 week 1 day ago||Thank you, Brian! It's been a||
Thank you, Brian! It's been a rough fall and some M fans have shamed themselves. But I hope you don't forget how many people (the vast, vast majority) greatly appreciate what you do.
I have become a more informed and passionate fan from reading your stuff over the years. For Free. That is awesome, and I've never stopped thinking that even in spite of the rough couple years we've had. Thank you!
EDIT: Thanks to the rest of the staff, too!
|1 week 6 days ago||Students sell them on a||
Students sell them on a Michigan Facebook marketplace, in general. I'm not sure what to expect this year but I can't think of one time the enemy has had a significant contingent of fans in the SS. The rest of the stadium, however... well, we'll see.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||Wha? I never thought I'd see||
Wha? I never thought I'd see the day when people didn't recognize haikus as a proper expression tool on MGoBlog. Don't diss on an old tradition...c'mon
Borges is not good
Execution excuse sucks
We must improve now
WTF happened to you?
Stop falling apart
(you know you still love this team, no matter how much you say you don't care if we lose anymore)
|4 weeks 6 days ago||9-3...we'll drop one more,||
9-3...we'll drop one more, but I think we're going to see an upward trend starting this week ("blah blah, it can't get any worse" -- yes it can. It can be a lot worse than 6-2)
We need to stay optimistic and stick together. All this bickering and nonsense is making us look just as foolish as the loss did.
We're forgetting the real target: Ohio State. We still have a chance to beat them.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Because statistically,||
Because statistically, relative to the last decade of M b-ball, last year was an anomaly. Though I'd hope we sustain deep tourney success.
EDIT: I see what you're saying after fully re-reading your post, but I just think it takes more than 1 year to have consistency in attendance the way elite programs in CBB do. Furthermore, I haven't been defending a lack of attendance in this thread, but rather pointing out that such complaints after one phenomenal year sound silly coming from a people who would have been sitting in the completely empty Crisler (outside of the Maize Rage) a few years ago.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||1 year does not a program||
1 year does not a program make, and using LAST year of all years to display your argument when it is so vastly an anomaly from what our program has been in the past decade is a rather small sample size.
I agree that the section should be full. I'm just saying (in other posts in this thread) that it's not as though non-student fans can really complain when it comes to b-ball attendance.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||All you adults did a great||
All you adults did a great job of driving across the state of MI to attend bball games before we were a top ten team. All like, 100 of you that ever cared to come.
This post will anger you because of the tone. Thus now you know why much of what is posted here angers students -- simply tone. Though many have been frustrated by attendance figures for awhile, so I understand THEIR exasperation.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Making the tournament does||
Making the tournament does not = good program for big-name schools in big-name conferences. It means average. And we weren't even that until 2010. Unless you are a student who showed up and bought tickets when we were mediocre, I don't see how you can be so hostile to the students.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I won't argue with your||
I won't argue with your numbers, but students (even when not showing up in full force) have certainly seemed to create a more hostile environment than older, non-student fans. I don't see how the "hostile atmosphere" argument factors in other than to WANT a full student section for a MORE hostile atmosphere.
Nobody in the Big House struck me as particularly "hostile" against Akron, so "creating a hostile atmosphere" is a problem everyone should address, not just students.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I would give the non-student||
I would give the non-student section areas of Crisler a 25-35% attendance rate for most average games in 2009, and probably only slightly better in 2010. Below average matchups basically meant crickets in the entire top bowl of Crisler and a smattering of random fans in the lower bowl.
One year, we played Concordia and they took up an entire upper bowl section and made more noise than everyone else in Crisler combined.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||WH - while this is slightly||
WH - while this is slightly off-topic, why did you stop posting game highlights for games this year? It seemed like last year they were up within a few hours of game's end. Have more copyrighting issues arisen? (I believe you mentioned that having been an issue years back when you switched from dynoguy to WH, sorry for creepin', I've just always been a fan of your work)
|11 weeks 3 min ago||Whoa.Ok, first: I am a||
Ok, first: I am a Michigan student, a 5th year senior who has loved M since I cared enough about any sport to root for anyone.
I am ONLY defending students when it comes to basketball, not football, because in terms of the football whining, I don't think students have a strong argument. I wish we could play better/more interesting opponents, but alas. Wanting to tailgate for 20-40 more minutes and thus causing this uproar does not seem worth it to me, though I can understand how people want to build their memories (after hours of drinking on gameday...) and stuff.
I'm here to defend M's students when it comes to basketball, though. I went to every damn game during our 15-17 season which ended in (more) heartbreak due to Evan Turner in Indianapolis, which I also attended. I have had season tickets every year I've been here, and missed only 3 non-break games. Why some of you are angry with Michigan students' basketball attendance is beyond me.
During 2009, especially, the student bleachers were the ONLY area of Crisler packed with fans and for no less than 2/3 the games that year, we were the majority of the fans in attendance. So all this criticizing about students "not showing up" for basketball kind of make me angry, because when our basketball team was mediocre, you adult-folk were NOT there, like at all, not at tipoff, not at halftime. We were the ones (the Maize Rage and a small periphery of other interested game-goers) who populated Crisler, and the only ones at that. Complain about attendance if you'd like, but the interest in M bball just was not there and it's hard for me to forget how little actual, physical support (as in showing up) there was by non-student fans.
I would generally approve of the new b-ball policy, except that now you have a large group of students who have shelled out money, significant money (to us), for tickets they are no longer guaranteed. It's a bit of a messy bail-out system that is the product of inherently trying to oversell to increase attendance. I get it. But to bash M's students and argue that somehow our attendance for basketball sucks, please stop.
To the dude who argued that making the NCAA tournament is better than average...no, it's not. For what should be a power program (albeit just coming off sanctions), making the tournament is average. What isn't average is making the tournament RELATIVE to many years before of not making it.
PS - re: student attendance: it would be nice to read something constructive and not critical on here on the subject for once. We're Michigan, and we're better than this petty arguing between adult fans and student fans. I hope this is a rift that closes quickly and also that the growing rift between alumni and the athletic department closes quickly, because much of the camaraderie that makes being a M fan great seems to be disappearing.
|41 weeks 18 hours ago||To echo a poster above, I too||
To echo a poster above, I too tend to lurk and read rather than post here, but reading through this thread inspired me to reply.
In principle, what I feel is that the average post, whether front page or in the forum, has lost value. They are sometimes less interesting to read now (and I do skip some FP posts) for several reasons:
1. Overuse/over-recycling of some memes. Yes, this is the internet and therefore memes will permeate both FP posts and forum posts, and that's fine. But there is a point where they become stale and nauseating to read, especially when there seems to be a race to be the first to post them (the "this won't end well" meme is a good example of this). In this way, the posters are as much to blame as anyone for any "staleness."
2. Less drama overall (well, except for hockey, which hasn't been covered this year, but I'm admittedly much more of a football/basketball fan, so that doesn't kill me). What can you do, though? That's something we should be thankful for, of course -- but at least for me, not having drama to obsess over in the sports-sphere means that the time and content dedicated to those topics has to be averted elsewhere (in terms of MGoContent, that is) and sometimes those "alternative avenues" don't seem to be as riveting as the content past drama has produced.
3. That actually makes me think of another point that is echoing others who've posted; the routine/cycled posts and rigid posting structure can slowly wear at the value of FP posts. UVs, game summaries, and weekly recruiting posts are obviously exempt from that because those contain essential information and are always well-done (and usually don't have to be "forced"). However, for non-essential but recurring posts, it seems they have stagnated the front page a bit because the actual amount of information in them varies and tends to slightly over-reference (don't get me wrong though, I'm all for referencing!) or mis-time usage of some of them. It'd be better if the writers could post a bit more free-form because they are all different and have unique styles, but confining them to a set structure dampens that a bit and creates that forced feeling.
All that said, I love MGoBlog and will always read, and a few ideas for how to mix it up a bit came to mind, too.
I wish that Brian and co. would bring WolverineHistorian on board! I watched M sports avidly through any media source (TV, internet, a book or two) when I was in middle and high school, which, along with MGoBlog, developed my inherent M-fanhood into an obsession, and much of what I learned came from his YouTube videos both when he was WH and when he was under the handle dynoguy88. Sorry WH, I hope you don't think it's creepy that I know that -- I'm actually the poster (or one of) who followed up to ask why you'd taken old highlight videos down before you switched to WH. Anyway, WH's video content is often linked here anyways, but I'm interested to see what his journalistic skills are, too (he's a pretty good poster when he does post, so I suppose that's a start). Someone who has made so many old highlight videos must have a love and deep knowledge of M football. That's always a valuable perspective, and the fact that he's never over-the-top like some blue hairs can be is a pleasant change.
Another thing MGoBlog could do, in terms of inside information, is communicate more with the Maize Rage. I know that might sound silly, but I think it would be greatly beneficial to both parties to have a more official association with each other. MGoPosters could suggest ways to improve both the Maize Rage and possibly even the football student section because the Rage has developed a pretty good relationship with the athletic department. MGoPosters for example, could suggest signs, chants, ideas for game "stunts," anything really, and if it's a good idea, you get to see your idea on TV. On the other side of things, I know that the Rage collectively has a few people that it seems to me always have good sources for breaking info. For example, a friend of mine who is pretty dedicated to the Rage knew days in advance that Maryland and Rutgers were going to join the B1G. His connection was within the Maryland ath. dept., and while that may seem like an obscure connection or bad sample size (of one), that isn't the only time he's had the inside track on football news. He's also not the only person who has had "breaking info."
As a senior at U-M, I no longer actively participate in the non-game aspects of the Rage, but I did fresh/soph years and thus am not giving you a baseless perspective. Plus, many of the people who've been dedicated to it all four years are still good friends of mine. In any case, if there was a way to get information from them to here, I bet it would be helpful.
Or just do some mid-season score prediction or random-type prediction contests where the prize is a t-shirt, whatever who cares
|1 year 36 weeks ago||This has been almost as||
This has been almost as extremely downvoted as recruiting updates are upvoted...haha
|1 year 36 weeks ago||This is actually a valid||
This is actually a valid point, at least for me. I picked up a lot of satirical writing skills, snarkiness, and "personable-ness" in terms of my writing from reading and (not so much anymore) posting.
Woohoo for the average M fan being intelligent!
|1 year 36 weeks ago||I don't think you have much||
I don't think you have much to worry about. MGoBlog can be a very critical bunch, but at the end of the day, I think everyone genuinely appreciates the information you post.
EDIT: NOOOOO SHELLAYY I just read the bottom part saying that you're not posting more recruiting updates. Please don't stop.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||100% agree. I also enjoy||
100% agree. I also enjoy Moonman, so if you haven't tried that....yeah, give it a shot.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||Personally, I WANT OSU to be||
Personally, I WANT OSU to be elite in all the sports I care about because their level of skill doesn't change how much I want us to beat them.
Although, that said, I could go for a nice 6 or 100 game winning stream against them in football, just to make up for them ruining my teenage years of watching The Game.
EDIT: this was slightly unrelated to the topic, but I don't see a problem in rooting for them when we need to, I guess is what I'm saying, even if it means something good for them.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||One of my roommates is||
One of my roommates is actually camping out at Crisler for Gameday. They're doing it for the novelty/experience/entertainment of doing it, not to be first in line, so I guess that's a little different.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||If you don't take him||
If you don't take him seriously, then he makes some decent background noise...
I agree though, what bothers me is that he makes connections between various things and incorrectly argues that they're directly related and states other as though he's the first person to come up with his analogies, which is rarely true.
For example, Cowherd is the kind of host that will make a theoretical (not fact-based argument) that the only cause of stadiums being sold out is the current winningness of the team. He won't show any correlation in data or, like, admit to us the fact that there are other contributing factors (tradition, marketing, whatever, this was just a random example).
Broad generalizations without knowing subtleties. And after you read this you could argue that I'm doing the same, but I've listened to enough Cowherd (not often, but enough) to have a valid opinion.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||It seems to me most people||
It seems to me most people like Cowherd the way they like a class clown. He's a great entertainer, but most people would think twice about inviting him to dinner ;)
In other words, I'm not at all surprised.
|2 years 8 weeks ago||Nooope, Chuck Testa. Thanks||
Nooope, Chuck Testa. Thanks anyways though, sir!
|2 years 8 weeks ago||If anyone got any extras that||
If anyone got any extras that they won't use, I'm very interested in buying two, just so that I can (probably not) antagonize Sparties all morning.
|2 years 22 weeks ago||Do you mean preferable to||
Do you mean preferable to theoretical Diamond/Kalis, or am I way off? Just curious.
|2 years 23 weeks ago||Prayers to the Hatch family||
Prayers to the Hatch family and especially Austin for a recovery, basketball completely aside. I can't imagine having to deal with that amount of loss and I truly hope to see the guy in a Michigan uniform still someday or at least at U-M.
Unfortunately, the comments on the ESPN article were far less tasteful towards this situation and it makes me sad that people can't put their appalling thoughts aside during a situation like this.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||Well, I wasn't really trying||
Well, I wasn't really trying to paint us out as being super devoted or anything, but the student section isn't devoid of intensity, either.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||agreed, on M students||
The Michigan student section doesn't have the best reputation, but I've noticed the same: Michigan fans, especially students, have always given visitors that are in any way hatable a ton of shit, especially if they try to sit in the student section. Off the top of my head (and this is probably an outlier), I remember having a family from Ohio (parents and two kids probably around the age of ten) sit right on the border of the student section. Their kids were repeatedly asked how much they were looking forward to working at McDonalds...then they were told (again, being heckled by a radius of drunk students around them) that this fate was OK because they probably wouldn't ever be smart enough for anything else. I'm kind of surprised the parents didn't say anything. However, if you have any doubts about the student section pulling through and "being loyal" (or whatever) when it matters, go look at an aerial picture of the stadium from that day.
That said, every other OSU fan there (at least, that I saw) seemed exactly as one would expect.
Somewhat similarly, against MSU last year and Indiana (yeah, Indiana) in 2009, people in the rows around me were target practicing with popcorn and water bottles at Spartans/Hoosiers unfortunate enough to be sitting in the student section. Interestingly, the M students hit other M students more than opposing fans, though. I suppose these could be outliers of a sort, but I've actually seen this happen at most "intense" home games in some form or another.
Sorry that this turned into a long-winded, not-entirely-related-to-your-response post, it's just exam week and it seemed appropriate to defend (well, or maybe incriminate) our student section a bit.
|3 years 5 weeks ago||I don't think our student||
I don't think our student section is particularly bad....however, the rest of the crowd at PSU blows the rest of the crowd at Michigan away by a shit ton.
|3 years 7 weeks ago||Most students who have an||
Most students who have an opinion on the music dislike several songs the band plays. Obviously, nobody minds The Victors, Temptation, etc, but sometimes they do play stuff at odd times (i.e. I believe they played Respect after an MSU touchdown last week, weird song choices...). I don't like Seven Nation Army either, and I don't think the crowd noise was like...solely a function of the music being played, but I still think the piped in choices (Hell's Bells, Lose Yourself a couple times) were better than in the past. Maybe it contributed to the noise, maybe not.
I do know that a lot of students (especially ones who are basketball dedicated, not so much the hockey ones) wish the band would play less a role (for basketball, I don't know if that also applies to football).