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I think there was some noise…

I think there was some noise about Klopp being worn down last season and potentially the one before, wasn't there? Though he certainly did seem to be re-energized this season. But yeah, this felt like a real dong punch when I read it this morning. Michigan has a much clearer blueprint for how to go on without Harbaugh than Liverpool has for life after Klopp.

That said, as for Xabi: yes, please. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a better hire. (Also, has been one of my favorite Liverpool players ever since I started following the team. Which is not a great reason to want him as a manager, I know -- for every Kenny Dalglish, there's a cautionary Stevie G. out there.)

I've had the same experience…

I've had the same experience but with with my polo horse.

Turns out JJ had a knee…

Turns out JJ had a knee injury (plant leg) bad enough that he was in tears in the locker room at halftime, per Sam and DG. That's what made him uncomfortable.

Smash.

Smash.

Co-signed. Ari Wasserman is…

Co-signed. Ari Wasserman is a glorified know-it-all message board poster whose two passions -- tOSU and recuiting stars -- happen to overlap. 

He's a world-class twat.

Yo this is a comment at best…

Yo this is a comment at best. And I pretty much never weigh in on what's board-worthy.

I appreciate the sentiment, but no way does this deserve to be its own post. Literally just a few short sentences about your feelings followed by "let's cheer on the team." 

Found Jim Stapleton's…

Found Jim Stapleton's account, guys.

Stalions was the sign…

Stalions was the sign-stealing guy. Moore and Minter cannot be presumed to know Stalions got the signs illegally (if what he did was against NCAA rules) simply because Stalions was telling them the other team's signals on the sidelines. 

Further, there seems to be a broad consensus not only that Connor's Big Spreadsheet Adventure provided a significant sign-stealing edge, but also that Stalions was materially better than other sign stealers. That's what's at the heart of Eleven Warriors' fever dream that Michigan didn't really beat that ass two years in a row.  

But . . . where is the evidence for that? If you've seen this established anywhere, please advise. 

No idea why you're getting…

No idea why you're getting this kind of downvoting here, FWIW. I also don't really want to leave the B1G, even though I want the conference to collectively fornicate with an unlubed pineapple.  I guess I just have spent so long with these teams as our rivals, etc., that leaving would kind of leave a hole. 

Also, no guarantee that if we went to the ACC -- and MUCH less the SEC -- those teams wouldn't also start acting like little bitches once Harbaugh started beating their asses 

Haha -- MGoBoard has gone…

Haha -- MGoBoard has gone into some arcane rabbit holes before, and this one is a sterling example. 

I'm just here to gripe that…

I'm just here to gripe that all-caps EDGE is dumb as hell. How did this start? Not an acronym, so far as I know, so why the goddamn caps? (Edge Defender Gets . . . Edgy? Excited? Extravagant$$$?)

Just over here shaking my fist at clouds on a Friday morning. And yes, this should have been a diary. I know that.

p.s. well aware this is the universal convention and not Alex's fault.

 

Don't want to make this a…

Don't want to make this a post, but y'all . . . have you seen what people are saying on 11 Warriors? They have well and truly  lost the fucking plot over there.

First, they're all about a theory (confirmed by an Unnamed Staffed Inside Schembechler Hall) that Weiss had child porn on a shared drive that Jaybaugh had a password to, and that also on that drive was 50 hours of tOSU practice film. And there's some kind of agreement under which Weiss (who's basically like a son to the Harbaugh family, obvs.) has agreed not to cooperate with law enforcement to emsure Jay doesn't go down, and in return Harbaugh is not going to cooperate with the police in the investigation of Weiss (nor the NCAA, I guess?). Oh, and everyone hates Jim inside the AD and hates Jay even more (not sure how that fits in or matters at all, but let's just admit it's *very* juicy, well-sourced sounding stuff and will probably be headlining Mandel's next piece). There are like 4 comments out of ~250 that are like "eh, that sounds a little far-fetched." 

Beyond that airtight theory, so, so many of them are going full melodrama and saying things like "fuck Jim Harbaugh for ruining this rivalry, which may never be the same after this." Notwithstanding that in the same blog, there's a story about how Day tipped TCU off about sign stealing and TCU was thus able to neutralize the competitive advantage Michigan gained from Stalions. You know, the advantage so potent that The Game is ruined for a generation. And like, there's no WAY the Buckeyes could have also . . . changed their signs. Dawand Jones said it would be confusing! 

Truly, losing to us two years in a row has broken many of them. It's bizarro world over there.

Not sure why the downvotes…

Not sure why the downvotes for this. I mean, I'm skeptical of the practice video claim and will stay that way unless it's actually confirmed, but I do think stealing practice video should have some legitimate consequences (assuming there's evidence any coaches saw it). 

We shouldn't become complete Buckeye-level wackadop cultists here just because other fan bases are losing their fucking minds over this.

 

Well, in terms of the odds…

Well, in terms of the odds of Michigan winning the B1G, I'd rather not play interesting games on the road at night. 

That said -- spiritually/regarding fan experience, I'm with ya.

Also . . . makes more sense than Hawai'i, I guess? 

OK, this is uncanny.

Bonus…

OK, this is uncanny.

Bonus points from remembering Rosie O'Donnell exists.

Great performance by our…

Great performance by our guys, no doubt. But that is in no way an elite defense. Look at the teams they posted those rushing yards numbers against.

I think Cade was serviceable…

I think Cade was serviceable and not more. And I too lost a lot of respect for him based on how he carried himself vis a vis JJ both before and after losing his job.

But no better than Spencer Petras--that's just mean. Are we no more than brutes?

I used to think this until…

I used to think this until the stuff came out about Cade giving JJ the cold shoulder from the minute he stepped on campus. (Per MMQB with DG and Sam, and apparently reported by other sources, JJ texted Cade that he was excited to learn from him and Cade just ghosted him.)

"When things aren't working…

"When things aren't working you need to make a change."

Uh, events have proven this categorically false. We did not need to make a change. Not making a change led to 2 B1G championships. 

Therefore, sometimes you do not need to make a change.

Right, race makes sense, but…

Right, race makes sense, but the idea that he's being treated unfairly as a male football coach is . . . some pretty creative lawyering. 

okay boomer

okay boomer

The rural-urban divide is…

The rural-urban divide is real, but it looks like there's a case for racial resentment being the most important factor determining affinity for Democrats or Republicans. Which on its face is not at all difficult to believe.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/22/opinion/democrats-republicans-education-racial-resentment.html

Mmmmm . . . 

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Mmmmm . . . 

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Rodriguez: Per Rafiki, we…

Rodriguez: Per Rafiki, we should forget about him. Josh Groban agrees.

Brandon: Technically, yes; spiritually, quit drinking and go to bed. 

Lewan: Yes, he's like the unfortunate night that gave UM the clap several years ago, but he's part of our story now.

Jeter: Technically not really, but we'll take him. 

Clark: See Lewan, but even more regrettable.

St. Juste: Uh . . . sure, if he wants? Maybe I'm missing what earned him a spot on this list here.

 

I'd add that the one game…

I'd add that the one game Cade lost was maybe his best performance of the year.

(I love JJ and am glad he's the starter, but also agree that it's bizarre how much people want to trash Cade's performance.)

The vitriol directed to Cade…

The vitriol directed to Cade is a really bad look, in my opinion. Are we as a fan base so thin-skinned that we need to denigrate a college kid who got a little salty when he lost his starting position following a year that was the best the program had seen for a long time?  

Be the bigger people. Cade played his ass off while he was here. Maybe he didn't handle being passed by JJ with impeccable grace, but cut the dude a break. We look like assholes who don't give a flying shit about any of the players unless they're winning games for us.

You know, I liked Edwards…

You know, I liked Edwards plenty before this tweet. But I didn't really know anything about him as a person. The closest thing to a fact I know of indicating he's an upstanding person is that he's close with JJ and JJ seems like a good dude because of his charity stuff and general cheerfulness.

Maybe you know more than I do, but for me the only concrete reason to think more highly of Edwards as a person than any other random person is that he plays (quite well) for my favorite team. And I'm pretty sure that is the only reason most people here are so quick to take his side (apart from the troglodytes who just lash out every time they see something about "not being an asshole to minorities" because it is VIRTUE SIGNALING).

Responded to Superjay below…

Responded to Superjay below. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

You didn't see how the tweet was antisemitic the first time you read it? How? Like you thought maybe Kanye just wants to point out that Jews are good parents?

Are we looking at the same…

Are we looking at the same tweet?  

The tweet from the screenshot in the other thread says, "Jewish people will literally tell you that they want you to kill your own and humiliate your women simply because they have children to feed."

Whether or not the video says anything about record executives or anything else, the text of the tweet itself -- the thing everyone sees on the feed -- is plainly antisemitic, full stop.

So when person B retweet's…

So when person B retweet's person A's shitty tweet for the sole purpose of pointing out that person A's shitty tweet was shitty, person B is really just as culpable?  

Deleting that tweet is not enough. And who's to say Edwards would have learned anything from this if there weren't consequences?  

This is naked, blatant, bullshit homerism. Be better.

Hmm. If you can think of a…

Hmm. If you can think of a benign way Edwards could have interpreted that tweet I'm all ears. It's antisemitic on its face.

Maybe I'm giving him too…

Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, but given the smirk he had when he said that, I think Ferentz was in on the joke there. 

Which is kind of funny to an outsider but would probably make me punch myself in the eye as an Iowa fan.

"Confirmed"

"Confirmed"

A post about football that's…

A post about football that's actually devoid of any football-related content! What's paper? What's scissors? Nobody knows! I think we might have found peak vapid message-board navel-gazing here, boys! Can I play too? 

Michigan has been mostly scrambled eggs this year, but you can't dip your toast in that when the schedule tightens up. I'm worried the coaching staff is just hoping that our souffle is going to set by the end of November, but we really need to be mixing in some sunny side up sooner than later. Hell, is it too much to ask for something poached with this receiving corps??

My brother in Christ, it…

My brother in Christ, it sounds like your theory is that the coaches instructed Blake Corum, "Son, we have given up on you bouncing outside. Your prerogative to bounce outside is hereby revoked. Now run straight into a pile of meaty asses or so help me God you will not see this field again." 

If that's what you're saying . . .  then in a truly, painfully dumb fucking thread, you may well have won the title of King Dumb Dumb. 

Yeah JJ really looked…

Yeah JJ really looked terrible out there.  

Harbaugh has completely ruined his first-year starter to the point where he just barely crested 300 yds passing and 3 TDs. Looks completely broken out there. Confused. Lost. Maybe lonely. Or gassy. Anyway, just a waste.

What a stupid goddamn fan base this is sometimes. Why there is always a group of people who take special joy in being the first to say our coaches are terrible is something I will never understand. Maybe y'all just like the feeling of being pissed off.

Gus might even give it an Ey…

Gus might even give it an Ey-Yabi-Okie.

But either way, I'm on board.

Man, that one is uncanny…

Man, that one is uncanny. Doppleganger territory.

I thought about writing some…

I thought about writing some 500-word screed that would have been much less effective than this comment.  You got to the heart of it here. 

"Could have moved the needle…

"Could have moved the needle on obesity." Yeah, we were just about to really show obesity's who's boss. Prior to March 2020, the government was showing a whole lot of interest in addressing broad social problems, especially those closely linked to (a) poverty and (b) healthcare. We probably could have really moved the needle on peace in the Middle East, flying cars, and an expanded CFP, too, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE PLANDEMIC.

Suddenly conservatives give a flying fucking rat's ass about mental health. The needle really moved there!

In sum, what a stupid, horseshit comment.

 

Welp, that throw rolling…

Welp, that throw rolling left from his one yard line to the other team's 40 isn't a club everyone has in their bag.

Tebow is a really good comparison--wonky mechanics, can throw a mile even off platform, built like a tank and a powerful runner. 

I'd maybe consider him Joe Milton-plus. He at least understands putting touch on the ball, and his ability to throw on the run rolling to both sides of the field isn't something Milton could do, I don't think. Orji also looks faster and more instinctive as a runner than Milton. He's a longshot to make it as a starting QB, but as an athlete like Barrett who could end up playing a number of positions in addition to providing some longshot QB potential, it's a great pickup.  

That's too bad, though Burke…

That's too bad, though Burke is a quintessential low floor, high ceiling recruit. I thought he looked pretty slow off the snap in his highlights--he could really build speed after the first 2-3 steps, but backside pursuit alone isn't going to make him an impact player. I'm sure the explosiveness will improve with a college strength program, though, so it will be (mildly) interesting to see his development. 

We might look back to a lack of edge depth and rue the day Burke got away, but with Berry, Gentry, Sabb, and Walker all making the wisest possible choice of university, pretty hard to get too bummed.

Especially because we just steamrolled OSU 42-27. That helps too. Like Seth, I too am surprised no one is talking about this more. 

He better be ready for…

He better be ready for hurricanes.

Hopefully he's learned a thing or two about high winds.

The Mike Tyson School of…

The Mike Tyson School of Questionable Thesaurus Usage approves this comment. 

This doesn't make a whole…

This doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Your logic is that even though Jewett himself may be a person worth celebrating, the fact that his connection to the University was enabled by Yost--a man whose personal views on many subjects are deeply problematic--a Jewett statue would carry too much baggage?  

Using your next example, assuming it's true there is no modern Michigan football without Bo--an assertion with which reasonable minds might certainly disagree--then we shouldn't really have a football program at all. Those not reaching your level of thoughfulness, after all, probably aren't equipped to cheer for the football team while simultaneously understanding that at times it has fallen abysmally short of the moral standards we would expect it to adhere to. 

Seems to me like a Jewett statue would kill two birds. It would memorialize a man who was both an admirable person in his own right, and it would also call to mind the darker context of the society, and the University, in which he made his legacy. Sure, some people would only see the statue as something that celebrates George Jewett, a one-dimensional saint of a man who transcended a social evil that--thank heavens!--has been driven out from our blessed land for good. Most probably wouldn't even give it that much thought.

But Michigan is a University. It's purpose is to educate. Not everyone will read the assignments, many won't really understand them, and even the thoughtful may disagree what the ultimate meaning of the lesson is. That doesn't mean the pedagogical effort shouldn't be made.

Honestly, though it's wrapped up in some haughty tones of intellectual superiority, I think yours might be the Manichean worldview here, my dude.

On one hand, this is…

On one hand, this is admittedly a little juvenile.

On the other hand, fuck those mouthbreathing cooler shitters.

Well done.

I submit for your…

I submit for your consideration: Houston Nutt.

They won 33-7. In a game…

They won 33-7. In a game with an inferior opponent. When they were most likely thinking more about the game against the top-10, undefeated, in-state rival they're playing next week. They never trailed.

If you're really a fan, try to enjoy watching your team win football games. 

 

 

YES. It's exciting to see…

YES. It's exciting to see Rodriguez stans in the wild still--brings me back! Dare I say: you raise me up, friend.

Clearly, Lloyd, the boosters, and the Old Guard with their unkind rumblings really did a number on that incandescent, beautiful, misunderstood genius, because he's been straight dogshit at coaching at every single stop ever since. 

And he was just about to turn the corner!

This deserves more upvotes.

This deserves more upvotes.