Donovan Edwards Follow Up Tweet....
From his twitter...
"The retweet was a glitch. I speak for myself. I know what’s in my heart. I am unequivocally against racism, exploitation & oppression in all forms, including stereotyping and trafficking in hate. I have nothing but love for others & I never judge anyone based on race or religion."
October 27th, 2022 at 11:32 AM ^
IMO, that seems sincere and we should just move on
October 27th, 2022 at 12:33 PM ^
I could believe this if he didn't blame this on a "glitch." I can still believe that he genuinely feels the way he says here. I can also believe that he may not have fully realized the intent of the content that he retweeted.
However, this was not a "glitch." There is no glitch that automatically retweets things for you. Retweeting is a two step process. Claiming he'd been hacked would be a better excuse than this. Saying you accidentally retweeted something would be like saying you accidentally loaded a gun AND pulled the trigger.
Donovan may be better than the content he retweeted, but this is absolutely a BS response.
EDIT: I think I did a poor job articulating my point. Rather than communicate it effectively, it seems like I'm equating this Donovan situation to loading a gun and shooting someone, but that wasn't the point at all. The point is how unlikely of a scenario it would be to accidentally load a gun or accidentally retweet something.
Sure, they aren't exactly one and the same, but what's the likelihood that you accidentally load a gun? Philosophically, it's not impossible. One could come up with an absolutely crazy scenario where it happens beyond all reasonably believable measure, but the percentage of possibility that it actually ever happens is so unlikely that we could logically rule it out unless there is specific evidence to back up that event happening. It may not be as hard to accidentally retweet something as it would be to accidentally load a gun, but they are both pretty unlikely. To retweet, you have to click a button, then click another button on a completely different area of the screen. You can't hit the same spot twice or double tap your way to a retweet. You have to pretty actively choose to do so.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:37 PM ^
It's not imposible to retweet something by accident and it's certainly not comparable to loading a gun and shooting it. This is an insane take.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:40 PM ^
When I first saw it I was wondering if it was a half asleep retweet. It's pretty easy to do. Only he knows.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:53 PM ^
The term "glitch" denotes tech, but he didn't overtly say that it was tech related. He just said it was a glitch. I refer to my own mistakes as glitches too. Perfect word for him to have used, IMO.
I glitch upvote/downvote you dudes all the time. Sometimes I correct it, especially if it's an accidental downvote. Sometimes I just sip my coffee and shrug.
October 27th, 2022 at 1:24 PM ^
"Glitch" is absolutely slang for "error."
October 27th, 2022 at 1:51 PM ^
It is certainly more believable if that is the context. I can agree with that.
October 27th, 2022 at 1:31 PM ^
I agree with this. I use it to mean mistakes. Unfortunately, the ambiguity leaves room for people to legitimately and illegitimately doubt his sincerity.
On a positive note, judging by twitter replies, both the MSU and OSU fan bases are totally aligned and determined to identify and punish those who espouse anti-semitism in any form. Didn’t know those groups were such strong allies prior to this.
October 27th, 2022 at 1:21 PM ^
October 27th, 2022 at 2:36 PM ^
You don't think that's the way politics works?
October 27th, 2022 at 3:22 PM ^
You don't think that's the way politics works?
Did you look at the tweet? The "banking elite" with the biggest nose controlling everyone else? Uhh dude, wake up. That's an unambiguous antisemite trope.
This was not a fucking "glitch." Edwards clearly has an issue he needs to work on honestly and with remorse for his actions.
October 27th, 2022 at 3:49 PM ^
hooked noses + big ears + controlling puppet strings + "banking elite"
hmmm
October 27th, 2022 at 11:43 PM ^
I agree with you that it’s an antisemitic cartoon. That said, I wouldn’t have known that for a large portion of my life. And I’m Jewish!
To me, this is something that can and will be solved by further education. Luckily, he’s at an institution with an active Hillel and a strong Jewish community.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:43 PM ^
It may not bear the exact same consequences as loading and firing a gun, no, however both include two opportunities to prevent said action from happening.
Accidentally retweeting something is not an "easy" thing to do. You can't accidentally click one button and retweet. You get the opportunity after initially clicking the retweet button to undo or change that initial action.
Accidentally Liking something? Sure. That's one step, and easy to do. Accidentally retweeting something? Not as much. You have to click once and then click again in an entirely different area of the screen. It's not even a quick double tap. It's two very distinct steps.
This was not an accident. Again, I can fully believe that Donovan regrets this and is better than the content he retweeted, but it being a glitch is absolutely not what happened here.
October 27th, 2022 at 1:23 PM ^
I don't believe him anymore but not easy ≠ impossible. You're still probably right despite your bad take.
October 27th, 2022 at 1:27 PM ^
That's fair. We cannot absolutely 100% remove the possibility that it was accident. However, the likelihood that it was an accident based on the process one has to go through to make it happen is incredibly low, (which was the point of the loading a gun and firing it comparison. Sure, they aren't exactly one and the same, but what's the likelihood that you accidentally load a gun? Philosophically, it's not impossible. One could come up with an absolutely crazy scenario where it happens beyond all reasonably believable measure, but the percentage of possibility that it actually ever happens is so unlikely that we could logically rule it out unless there is specific evidence to back up that event happening.)
October 27th, 2022 at 1:28 PM ^
Definitely understandable to retweet by accident. Perhaps a "butt" tweet or something but the word "glitch" is an interesting choice. I don't think it takes away from the authenticity of the apology but weird choice of word.
October 27th, 2022 at 3:55 PM ^
Actually it’s very sane. I work at a big tech company. Retweeting requires you to press a button and then press it again after you’re asked you if you want to send it. It’s not like liking a tweet, which you can do with an accidental swipe. There’s no “glitch” that makes you retweet something unintentionally. That’s what people say when they panic after getting blowback. Like politicians who claim they were “hacked.”
October 27th, 2022 at 12:41 PM ^
Ever touch the wrong part of a phone screen and click on something, or send something in error? I have, and so have my kids (wish they hadn't, but that's a tale for another time). If that tweet came across his feed, I can completely understand an errant retweet. I'd take the time to search his twitter for historical reference to see how historical posting compares, but I value taking him at his word over surfing social media until evidence suggest otherwise.
October 27th, 2022 at 1:39 PM ^
If it was a "Like" then yes, but a retweet as he said is a two step process with a confirmation. Not saying it's impossible (most likely was he was trying to retweet something adjacent in his feed and clicked the wrong one), but it's not as easy of a mistake as you're implying either.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:41 PM ^
I have two college-aged kids, and I've heard them both use the word "glitch" as a synonym for "mistake". I recognize that that's how we older folks define it, but it's possible that's what Edwards meant.
October 27th, 2022 at 1:35 PM ^
The people on this board are ridiculous.
Everyone is tripping over everyone else to demonstrate how their magnanimity is greater than the other woke members.
Everybody, settle the fuck down.
We are literally analyzing a tweet that was redacted and clarified with great vehemence. And now people are analyzing whether it was "liked" or disliked, or if a participle was dangled changing the goddamn meaning or if a colon should have been used instead of a semi colon (s/)
October 27th, 2022 at 1:45 PM ^
Just please STFU
October 27th, 2022 at 2:36 PM ^
I have retweeted just by simply scrolling before. I think the explanation should be satisfactory for everybody to move on. Including Ace
October 27th, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^
He’s like 19 years old, and it’s pretty easy to accidentally press a button on your phone at an inopportune time
October 27th, 2022 at 11:56 PM ^
I suspect we would not be so forgiving about a 19 year old if he was from, say, Ohio State.
October 27th, 2022 at 3:31 PM ^
Not to defend his glitch statement but I’ve fallen asleep with my phone unlocked nest to me and woke up to some weird shit. Like posted a video of nothing but me snoring or even made it into messenger and sent ahdbxbxbshxbxbxb to someone. I’ve also fumbled my phone horribly on Facebook and liked random stuff without realizing it. So I don’t know what happened but it’s not impossible for accidents to happen.
October 27th, 2022 at 11:56 PM ^
You didn't misarticulate. You're just desperately trying to drag someone out into the street for a flogging when all he did was accidentally leave his front door open at the wrong time. You and the rest of us should leave him alone, let him be and move on. Why so many people can't seem to do that is bizarre and alarming, but since he quickly deleted his mistake, all of our correct move is to leave it alone. You just can't help yourself and that is the problem.
Chalk it us as a mistake kids make and go do something productive in your own life.
October 27th, 2022 at 1:03 PM ^
Wouldn't it be easier to just jump to conclusions and start raking an otherwise seemingly upstanding young man over the coals before we fully understand the situation? You know, bitch first and ask questions later?
Asking for a few friends...
Seriously though, kudos to Donovan and the university for being on top of this and using it, as many on here have suggested, as a teachable moment.
October 27th, 2022 at 2:01 PM ^
You know, I liked Edwards plenty before this tweet. But I didn't really know anything about him as a person. The closest thing to a fact I know of indicating he's an upstanding person is that he's close with JJ and JJ seems like a good dude because of his charity stuff and general cheerfulness.
Maybe you know more than I do, but for me the only concrete reason to think more highly of Edwards as a person than any other random person is that he plays (quite well) for my favorite team. And I'm pretty sure that is the only reason most people here are so quick to take his side (apart from the troglodytes who just lash out every time they see something about "not being an asshole to minorities" because it is VIRTUE SIGNALING).
October 27th, 2022 at 1:11 PM ^
Calling it a glitch is not a sincere apology IMO. I guess we all have different standards when it comes to accountability.
October 27th, 2022 at 3:21 PM ^
It’s not even an apology. It’s a lol bad attempt to side step the issue by trying to blame technology
October 27th, 2022 at 9:36 PM ^
Donovan seems to be growing up in front of our eyes.
He clearly hasn't had media training or a platform, which in some instances is refreshing, because he's genuine.
Just like I don't think he was trying to guarantee a win during his presser. I also don't think he was trying to sound like an arrogant, well, ass when he was all "the world is starting to see how dynamic of a player I am."
For one, I blame Michigan's media relations department. For years I've thought they've done a shit job with prep. Whether that is for Harbaugh or for the guys on the team.
I'm not saying or implying Edwards is dumb, poor education, or anything along those lines. I'm saying he's inexperienced in his newly gained platform and because he's willing to answer anything and everything, I think he speaks before fully forming his thoughts.
He said, "we’re going to win; we’re going to win, and we’re going to leave them a no-mercy kind of deal."
I think he was trying to describe the teams mentality. I don't think he was guaranteeing a win...but that's what he did.
The Kanye thing was probably fat thumbs, it's happens to many of us. You're reading or looking at garbage and accidentally like.
Maybe he did mean to retweet it, I still don't believe he fully understood the ramifications.
When he talks about the world finally seeing him. I think he was just saying, "I'm thankful that I've been able to display my talent and ability."
...it sounds like I'm making excuses for Donovan, but honestly, when you hear him, watch him, hear his tone, these aren't "reaches."
But Michigan's media relations has to train these guys, prep these guys. Not all of them, for example, JJs clearly had media training on top of being a QB and just listening to QBs for his entire life.
Donovan, even when it's nothing controversial, it's still clear this is all new to him.
And for the record, Corum is better...but Blake isn't great either. He could also use media training. And I'm not saying lie, or don't be yourself, I'm saying simple things like...slow down! control your breathing. Listen to the complete question before you start to formulate your answer.
All of that goes out the window post-OSU or B1G championship or in big moments. But typically you don't need to be in a hurry.
Let the vets take the interviews for awhile. Sainristil, Morris, Bell, Schoonmaker, Hayes, Smith...and get the young guys some support!!
October 27th, 2022 at 11:34 AM ^
Ah yes, those famous glitches.
October 27th, 2022 at 11:38 AM ^
to be fair I have accidently retweeted, and posted items on social media. It is what it is man, he's apologized and I am sure there are other ramifications behind the scenes.
October 27th, 2022 at 11:41 AM ^
I don't mess with Twitter, but I've "liked" a dozen things accidently while scrolling on Instagram or Facebook that I completely disagree with. It happens. If that's all it was, let's forget it and move on. If he truly believes those kinda things, well, I imagine somebody would know and it would come out.
The apology seems genuine to me, so whatever.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:17 PM ^
Same with FB. It’s too easy when scrolling with your thumb to accidentally hit the like button on something you never meant to, and then not realize it until later when you notice similar items popping up in your feed. I don’t know much of anything about Twitter but I imagine it’s somewhat similar and easy to make that mistake.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:18 PM ^
I have even accidentally because I'm a social media, slash smart phone, idiot. I have accidentally called someone on Facebook messenger. My wife was like how could that happen. And I was like I don't know but it did... let's just say the dog house got better with time. GO BLUE
October 27th, 2022 at 12:53 PM ^
I never Like or Share stuff on FB or IG but I can remember twice where I somehow shared a post with someone and had no idea how. I'm in my 30's and fluent with how to use a phone. It happens and whether he's being honest about this or not is not up to us to figure out. But it's really easy to do.
Or you could be like Ace and others in the fanbase who, without knowing any details of what's going on inside, think the university should suspend him and make some big public declaration.
October 27th, 2022 at 11:53 AM ^
I’m not on Facebook but you should see my kids panic when I try to enlarge a photo they are showing me on their cell phones.
October 27th, 2022 at 11:54 AM ^
No you haven’t. You have to hit confirm to retweet. Someone told him it was dumb for his future. He didn’t even really apologize. Playing it off as a glitch is just a missed learning and growth opportunity
October 27th, 2022 at 12:00 PM ^
He changed his mind or looked at the issue more closely. Just like pre-2008 Obama and same sex marriage.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:16 PM ^
Donovan Edwards is Obama
October 27th, 2022 at 12:24 PM ^
Yes We Can! (Beat OSU)
October 27th, 2022 at 12:03 PM ^
Just to chime in, I am a regular twitter user and I have accidentally retweeted a post I didn't mean to retweet.
I was scrolling my timeline while half asleep and my thumb must have dropped on the retweet button while it was around the same level where the confirmation comes up. I then must have proceeded to raise my thumb from the haptic feedback and dropped it again on the same spot shortly after. Is it unlikely? Yes, it's only happened once from hundreds of hours of usage. Is it impossible? It's not, and that's why I think taking his follow up tweet at face value is the only real option here given that there's not a pattern of behavior associated with that retweet.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:21 PM ^
AK47 is above reproach. He has never done anything on accident. He actually is who he is,"on purpose!"
October 27th, 2022 at 12:09 PM ^
There's a lot of cringey homerism in these threads where stuff like this is getting negged away and people just drinking up the 'it was glitch!' storyline are really upvoted. Donovan knowingly retweeted something anti-semitic and it was not a glitch. Was everyone born yesterday? Maybe he feels remorseful now (I hope he does) and if he does we can move forward, but people are being way too quick to dismiss his retweet as nothing
October 27th, 2022 at 12:37 PM ^
I'm sure a 19 year old kid did a deep dive and put lots of thought into what he retweeted. He fucked up. He apologized.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:09 PM ^
It doesn't have to be that kind of "glitch". He could have just mis-understood the original Tweet before retweeting it. I didn't quite understand the tweet when I quickly scanned it the first time. I had to re-read it a couple of times. He could have just had "glitch" in understanding it before the retweet.
October 27th, 2022 at 12:21 PM ^
Hmm. If you can think of a benign way Edwards could have interpreted that tweet I'm all ears. It's antisemitic on its face.