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Indiana State not making it…

Indiana State not making it in just shows that the selection committee is more interested in putting in name brand major conference teams (after the high profile top-25 teams and auto bids get seeded).

As someone above said, two middling major conference teams playing against each other is a yawner, while interesting and good mid major teams vying against the “big boys” makes for a compelling game. Even casual fans tune into those. FAU’s run last season likely saw fans of college bball tuning in at a high clip to see if they could continue to slay the giants, much like Loyola Chicago in 2018. 

Eh, we’ve all seen this show…

Eh, we’ve all seen this show a billion times in the nfl. A supposed “can’t miss, generational talent” goes to a team where he’s starting right away and falls flat. I don’t agree with you about Williams’ read ability, but that can be acquired and taught. He does have a quick release which is good. But, and this is a big one, his attitude doesn’t sit well with me. Will that become a locker room problem in the future? Who knows, but I wouldn’t want to chance it. Like I said, I’d rather draft Maye or JJ if I’m the Bears. 

My opinion, of course, but…

My opinion, of course, but the Bears taking either Williams or Daniels is not any different than having fields. I’d take JJ or Maye if I was them. JJ, for all the reasons, or Maye because I see his potential in an offense that now has weapons all over as really good. Maye didn’t have much at NC yet still was pretty good. 

I think the majority…

I think the majority sentiment on this board, and rightly so, is that people really wanted to see Juwan Howard succeed at Michigan. It looked for a little while that it would happen consistently. I am sad to see him go but it was also the right decision. I’m hoping he lands somewhere in the NBA as an assistant and eventually a head coach position, as that is what his coaching style seems more suited for. 
 

Whoever the next coach will be, they will have to deal with the NIL and xfer situation at Michigan, which is a much less than optimal situation and one that may deter a lot of coaches from even considering coaching at Michigan. 

Most of that was on the…

Most of that was on the merely good, not great run blocking like Michigan has enjoyed the past 3 seasons. 

It’s not crazy to think that…

It’s not crazy to think that he might end up in Chicago, though. From what I’ve read the bears are not really all in on Williams and might find a trade partner within the top five for the top pick that would allow them to bank some more draft stock plus get the QB they really want (I’m betting it’s either Maye or JJ).  

How many of the QB needy teams would give up another first rounder or two (on top of this year’s) to be able to draft Williams?

After reading the article on…

After reading the article on ESPN about the nfl free agency grades, the way the college game has gone now with the portal reads very similar. The only difference being that in the college game the top flite players seem to overwhelmingly sign on with the higher rated schools, while in the nfl even the bottom feeders are signing all-pro players at a pretty good clip. 
 

As for this next season, of all the new b1g teams, Oregon looks to be the best of the bunch by a large margin. They lose arguably the best Oregon qb in decades but have signed one that has the ability and skills to be an upgrade. That and their continuity in coaching staff and I would put them as the 1B to OSU’s 1A as the top of the conference at this point (at least on paper).

I see 4 of the first 5 picks…

I see 4 of the first 5 picks being QBs, and as of now I’m thinking they could be in any order. Williams is not a lock for #1, as his prima Donna attitude won’t play well with some teams. I can actually see Chicago either trading out if the top spot or drafting Daniels, Maye, or even JJ #1. 

Only the stat watchers(akin…

Only the stat watchers(akin to the cfb star gazers) and those who dislike Michigan in general have JJ going anywhere from 12 to the backend of the first round. 
 

Those talking heads who have actual knowledge and insider information are generally in agreement that JJ will be the 3rd or 4th QB off the board and somewhere within the first 10-11(Minnesota) spots. 

I’ll admit that it’s…

I’ll admit that it’s perplexing about the OL recruiting.
-2 of the past 3 seasons as Joe Moore award winners, and the third as a finalist.

-You have the data points of the transfers who come in and excel, most notably with Olu.

-And you have Zinter and Keegan (mostly ZZ), who have gone through the program and will be drafted and be multiple year starters in the nfl. Zinter, in particular, had the chance sans injury to make it to the first round this year as one of the top IOL in the country(his injury is hurting his draft stock unfortunately).

Given those, you’d think that higher end HS talent would be knocking at the door for at least a look around to see if the development aspect of Michigan’s program for their NFL future can outweigh the NIL differences. And, you’d have to think that in some cases a recruit might opt for that better development as a long and productive career in the NFL would certainly outweigh the immediate cash benefit of choosing a Miami, Ole Miss, or OSU college NIL. 

This bad season in mbb is…

This bad season in mbb is not the same as as 2020 Michigan football, for a number of reasons.

But, you also cannot compare beilein’s teams and running of the mbb program to Howard’s. The xfer portal really started in earnest around 2020, as well as the NIL game, and it completely changed the landscape of recruiting in basketball, as compared to football recruiting. The schools that actively engaged in paying players prior to nil became even more emboldened to do so, as well as the additions of many other schools that had no qualms about doing that. To round out a team to be competitive, all of the sudden they only needed a xfer or two to sit comfortably as a top-25 team. 
 

Michigan, on the other hand, wasn’t very forthcoming with nil opportunities, nor was its xfer process able to compete with other schools in terms of credits. Throw in a stupid ncaa rule on foreigner nil opportunity as well as requiring a recruit to “pay back” a measly sum of money because of another stupid rule that effectively cost Michigan a viable player this season, and it’s really easy to see why the rails came off this season. 
 

The one thing Michigan football had going for it, even after the 2020 season, was roster continuity. That is something the basketball program has never had under Howard, and I’m not sure how much of that can be laid at Howard’s feet. Some, sure, but with the smaller rosters it means that more of the players (a higher percentage) on that roster become important in any given season to keep a team competitive. Roster continuity on a bball team for Michigan was always going to be a challenge, and it’s been proven in the current recruiting landscape to be a minefield where Michigan is concerned.
 

Im not absolving Howard of the blame for the state of Michigan basketball, nor am I going to lay everything at his feet.
 

I believe he can coach.

What I’m not sure of is can he pivot and change enough in the other important aspects of running a d1 program at a big time school to get the program competitive again. That should be the question to be asked and considered by the AD. That also happens to be the question the AD was really considering about Harbaugh after 2020, and the only similarity between Howard and Harbaugh and their two disappointing seasons. 
 

For the record, I believe if Howard was retained as hc and completely changed his assistants, including hiring at least one who could be a giant plus in recruiting (hs and xfer), that he can turn things around at Michigan.

Before Tuttle I put Michigan…

Before Tuttle I put Michigan’s floor as 7-5, even with a likely top five defense coming back as the offense would take a giant step back. 
 

With Tuttle, who I believe can and will have at least a 21’ Cade type of year, if not better, I fully believe the floor is between 9-3 to 10-2, with a decent chance of being 11-1 or even 12-0 regular season. 

In most years the top four…

In most years the top four conference champs will be from the power conferences so the auto conference champ bud going away won’t have much impact, especially for the b1g and sec.
 

Not sure I agree with no limits on conference bids. I know they claim to want the best competition available but for much of the season the 7-12 place rankings are all a popularity and glamour show with the supposed deep sec taking up most of those spots. I fully expect to see exclusions of 2-loss non-sec teams in order to gain more sec teams, even if they have three losses. 

Michigan definitely has a…

Michigan definitely has a pool of DBs to draw from and create a very good defensive backfield, even with the loss of Sabb. My prediction is that at least two of them will be AA level (Moore and Johnson) with another as all-b1g level and the nickel and cb2 positions either all-b1g level or close to it. 
 

The biggest ? On defense will be at the LB level. Barrett WILL be missed, as will Colson’s speed. There are players who have flashed but can they step up their games enough to be the solid players needed in order for Michigan to be top-five again.

On the offensive side for…

On the offensive side for the opposition there are only a couple of teams on the schedule that can boast having 10-11 players with nfl talent. Those are the teams that’ll really test Michigan’s defense, and would have if minter was still DC. 
 

I think that, at least for this year, Martindale will find it a luxury having a front 4-5 players depending on alignment that can get a pass rush without having to go to the nickel blitzes or 7-man rushes as often. Couple that with a very strong trio of DBs in the backend and I think the defense will be fine. Especially if Michigan’s new DC goes over tape of last year’s defense to see what he’s got player-wise that is coming back.

Hockey and WBB lost some top…

Hockey and WBB lost some top line players over the past couple of seasons. They are both kinda in a rebuild/reload mode right now and I think they’ll both be fine in the long run. 
 

MBB is a completely different story, however. What started out as a promising beginning to the season has ended in a complete collapse and I’m not sure where all of the blame lies. Is it NIL? Or admissions? Or Howard himself? Or a combo of all three?

This is a completely different era of mbb than beilein had to deal with, but then again hustle and competitive play throughout the team is seriously lacking and that’s something beilein instilled in his teams from the top line talent players all the way down to the bench mob. 
 

I think a change in HC is needed, no matter how much I like Howard. Or maybe it’s just a change needed in the assistants like Harbaugh had to do in order to help promote and instill the right culture. IDK.🤷‍♂️

I didn’t see it listed in…

I didn’t see it listed in the article but I wonder if there is bonuses for the assistants based on awards received and/or b1g, playoff and NC games. I know coach Moore has those incentives so I’d imagine the assistants have some too.

Just imagine Campbell winning assistant coach of the year or Newsome overseeing another joe(Sherrone) Moore winning offensive line. Those would have to be worth a bonus for them.

Michigan wasn’t in any…

Michigan wasn’t in any danger of an Iowa type of team on offense, but the qb position was going to be the biggest question mark there. Given the leadership the team was losing too I’d still say 7-5 was the floor with the four teams you mentioned and some inexplicable loss somewhere else. 
 

With Tuttle, the team has experienced mature leadership at the qb position. He’s not gonna be JJ by any stretch, but I’d bet he is better than Cade was in 21, where Michigan was 12-2 after the playoff. That’s why I’d give Michigan a floor now of 10-2. 

The potential of the offense…

The potential of the offense just went up dramatically. Experience and maturity go a long way in directing the offense. 
 

I think the floor for next season just went from  7-5 up to maybe 10-2. If Tuttle plays very well Michigan could be looking at another b1g title and playoff run.

This one definitely hurts…

This one definitely hurts for depth in the secondary, but I completely understand feeling like you need to go somewhere where you are THE starter to be showcased. I don’t fault him for wanting that, especially if he’s trying to make the 1st round of next year’s draft. 
 

I think the secondary overall will be fine as there are still some young guys with lots of talent that’ll make pushes for the nickel and cb2 spots. 

I think job one once all of…

I think job one once all of the defensive coaches are actually hired is to go back to “school”, so to speak, in learning the “ravens” defense from the architect of it, along with noting the variations and play calls based on offensive alignment and personnel groupings from the last three years of Michigan’s defense. Do that prior to spring ball starting and get the jump on the whole continuity thing with the defense.

Not a lateral move at all,…

Not a lateral move at all, for the reasons listed as well as the opportunity to work with (probably) the architect of one of the dominant defensive schemes in all of football currently. That alone will open doors for the future as more teams, assuming a continued success of the scheme, will adopt it and be looking for coaches well versed in implementing it.

That alone makes it several steps up in advancement even if the job title is the same.

SP+ has Michigan’s preseason…

SP+ has Michigan’s preseason defense ranked number two, just very slightly behind OSU at number one. The two biggest question marks on defense are at the LB position and depth of the DL (CB2 is kinda a question mark but there are enough intriguing possibilities that both it and the nickel position will become part of a top ranked secondary).

Offense is ranked in the 30s but the biggest question mark there is the QB position which depending on what happens there can take Michigan into the top ten or drop out of the top 50 (offensive SP+ ranking).

I’m not convinced that…

I’m not convinced that Williams is as good as the talking heads say he is. Riley has a system that tends to get his qbs lots of numbers in the stats but none of them have seemed to be all that ready for the nfl. Williams does have better arm strength and an uncanny ability to make something out of nothing though, so I’ll give him that. 
 

Daniels from LSU played with two legitimate first round wrs. He’s got long ball touch and some legs, but I didn’t see him ever gave to go three or four reads in before throwing and few of his passes were tight nfl window throws. 
 

JJ just didn’t have the volume the other qbs did, but the results should speak for themselves. IMO he’s a top ten pick (possibly top five) in the draft. And depending on where he goes he could have a much better start to a career than the others.

Maybe he sees his…

Maybe he sees his opportunities for promotion as being better with the chargers. Sucks, but can’t blame him if so. 
 

I’ll wait to see who the defensive assistants are for Michigan before I go all doom and gloom. 

I had a moment in 2021 as…

I had a moment in 2021 as well on game day against OSU. I had sporadically watched Michigan that season, including the early Washington game where they looked to have a promising season ahead and Michigan had just come off of the horrid Covid season, only to have the Wolverines lay waste to the huskies. 
 

The game against OSU was looking to be a decent one, but with their offense and Heisman contender qb I didn’t have much hope. I decided to take the family to a Christkindlemarket just north of Indy for the day, foregoing watching or even following the game. At halftime I couldn’t help it and pulled up the ESPN app to look at the score, 14-13 Michigan. It looked like what I had thought it would be, a decent game from Michigan at least, but with no hope of holding back OSU and their all-nfl offense in the second half. 
 

Approximately 30 minutes later I had another chance and pulled up the game, where it was 28-13 Michigan and going into the 4th quarter. It was at that point I started having hope that Michigan could pull it off, but was still apprehensive about following the 4th quarter on my phone. I checked again somewhere after the 4th Haskins TD, Michigan up 35-20 and about 9-10 minutes left to play. I remember thinking that UM might just win this one, and in a blowout, so I kept the rest of the game up on the phone, trying to follow both my granddaughter’s joy and wonder at an old time Christmas event and my own joy and wonder at a game being played by a team I had followed for forever. I hadn’t wanted to get my hopes up that year, only to have them crushed in the end like they had been in 2016 and 17. 
 

The rest of that season, even the blowout loss to an nfl-lite Georgia was pure giddiness on my part, and I haven’t really looked back since. 2023, 15-0 national champions was just icing on the cake. Best 3 year stretch of my Michigan fandom I can remember (been a fan since the mid-80s after a wrestling camp at Michigan where I fell in love with the campus and stood in awe inside the bighouse). 
 

 

It is kinda nuts when you…

It is kinda nuts when you think about it. 3 of the 4 cfp teams lose their head coaches, and all 3 of them have promising prospects for next year as well. 

-Alabama truly looked to be in the upswing again with their offense, and as their defense has always reloaded they were a likely shoe-in for next year’s playoff. 

-Washington may have been losing a lot on offense but they were also in a position of potentially being able to reload there, and there defense was only going to get better with the young guys they were playing. Not necessarily a shoe in for the playoffs but had a great shot at making it in, especially if DeBoer could have lured in a really good qb. 
 

-Michigan looks to have nearly as good of a defense as 2023, and their only real question mark on the offense is at qb. If Harbaugh/Michigan had signed the contract in December there is a good chance Will Howard or another decent and available qb comes with a great chance at taking Michigan to the playoffs again. 
 

Add in the other movement around cfb, like Fisch heading out of Arizona where he’d built a contender for the b12 title and playoffs, and this coaching offseason has been a little crazy compared to other years.

Despite the naysayers, this…

Despite the naysayers, this is a very good hire.

-Continuity of system, even if the exact deployment of it may differ. 

-A seasoned play caller on the defense that Moore won’t have to oversee at all.

-Was a mentor to two of Michigan’s best DCs this century, and hopefully will mentor Clinkscale to be his successor. 
 

I would look at his lack of success at NY as a product of several things: Defensive roster makeup not in line with what he had at Baltimore(even with some defensive stars NY had), and the lack of even a decent offense that put the defense in bad position consistently. At Michigan he’ll have players who’ve been playing the system, including a very good collection of secondary players, the kind of linemen that would have been a luxury he didn’t have at Baltimore (talent vs talent) due to cap constraints, andwhat should be a somewhat decent offense that won’t hamstring the defense. 

Also, Larry David is not…

Also, Larry David is not funny. He seems very much like a guy who’s been in thick with producers and directors in Hollywood and keeps getting cast in films and tv shows despite his complete lack of talent at acting, or being funny, or with anything to do with making a good show or movie. 

I’d change that rule to the…

I’d change that rule to the same as basketball has for a ball out of bounds. The team that touched it last loses the ball. That would eliminate defensive gaming of the system to kick or push the ball out of the end zone and get the ball on a touchback. If the offense was the last to touch the ball and then loses it, well, tough luck, shouldn’t have fumbled. 

“The teams could fight all…

“The teams could fight all the way up the tunnel and out into the parking lot!”

MSU would have a head start on everybody on this rule change.

Actually, in 2021 Michigan…

Actually, in 2021 Michigan blitzed a lot more than people remember, and from all over. That team didn’t have 4 guys on the line who could consistently handle 5 blockers like the 22 and 23 teams had. Minter adapted to having that luxury by blitzing less and making the coverage schemes even more confusing for QBs. 

Personally I think the…

Personally I think the recruiting services have gotten lazy in ranking kids, much like the NFL talking heads have about draft rankings. 
 

The kids after about the top 25-30 that are four stars are mostly all ranked by early junior class rankings and seem to be jockeyed around simply by stats and physical measurables that can and will change in their first couple seasons in college. 
 

Michigan gathered in (on ESPN rankings) 10 top-300 guys, which puts them in line with the back half of the top ten in recruiting (from 9-11 guys), and 13 total four stars. Several of the 3-star kids just missed out on 4-star rankings. It’s a very solid, if not overwhelming, class that is closer to a top ten class than it looks like considering the laziness of the services in ranking the mid to low four star kids. 
 

My prediction is that the class will end up much better in comparison to others in a couple of years, though it still won’t quite compete or compare to the usual suspects (OSU, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Texas, etc.)

I think Martindale as a long…

I think Martindale as a long term (3+ years) is a bad hire. I think hiring him for one season to help round out Clinkscale for the future sole DC is a great hire. Time will tell depending on what clinks actual title will be. If he is co-DC that will be very telling for what the plan is going forward.

Sorry, but I think this WAS…

Sorry, but I think this WAS the JJ game of his career at Michigan. Yeah, only 63% passing, but went over 200 yds with 3 TDs against the best secondary (2 legit first round corners and a great, future 1st round safety), and against a Saban coached pass defense, in the biggest game of McCarthys career to that point, that included having to lead a needed come from behind drive for a TD at the end. He was jittery at times but cool and calm when needed most. And that 63% completion percentage was hurt by a number of flat out drops. Could have just as easily been 70% instead.

I don’t think the sky is…

I don’t think the sky is falling. I think Michigan football is still in a pretty good place with Moore and Campbell and Newsome. Just hoping the defensive side of the coaching staff turns out well.

True, but at least he’ll…

True, but at least he’ll have the support network in place to be able to succeed. I’m not really seeing that at Michigan. 
 

OSU, when Meyer left, also had that support network in place for Day. And despite his losses to Michigan he has still consistently had OSU competing for b1g titles and cfp appearances. 

The early signing day has…

The early signing day has grabbed all of the drama, but the amount of drama and intrigue that used to be a big part of NSD in February is gone. The HS all star games have a lot less interest than they used to, as 99% of the participants have not just committed by then, but have also signed in December and are likely starting early enrollees as well. 
 

For the fans, especially those whose team still has a meaningful game or games to play, the early signing day is lost in the shuffle as those fans are contemplating about their team winning a cfp game and maybe the NC. 

You can tell from Moore’s…

You can tell from Moore’s offered salary that Michigan isn’t treating him like a big time hire though. I don’t think Moore is proven enough to command top ten HC money, BUT, he is proven enough to command more than $5.5mil/yr. 
 

To me, that’s a bad look for Michigan’s AD. If you are an assistant coach, do you see that number and believe that you can get commensurate pay? I don’t think so. Minter was likely going to leave for the NFL anyways like Harbaugh, and JayH could be included with them. But Elston and Herbert, considering the importance of the jobs they did and how well they did them should have been offered practically unbeatable deals. 
 

Herbert wants a ten year contract? Considering what he’s done with improvement of players’ strength, speed and other measurables, give it to him. And at a hefty increase over his previous pay. 
 

Elston wants to advance to a DC or CoDC role(thus goes for Clinkscale too) ? Convince Moore that they are worth going after and offer commensurate salary packages. 
 

Money isn’t everything to everyone, but opportunity for promotion/advancement and/or prestige can go a long way to alleviate any financial differences in offers. 

The difference with Alabama…

The difference with Alabama is that DeBoer was hired rather quickly and although there were many xfers and a couple of decommits Alabama is still Alabama and you can see the difference in support from their AD. A major part of their success is still in place to support the new HC.

The biggest area of concern…

The biggest area of concern for OSU is development of talent. Georgia and Alabama both acquire talent at the same or higher rate than OSU, but the difference is that they also highly develop the talent they have while OSU hasn’t done it all that well. 
 

Michigan acquires potential talent at a much lower rate, but UM has consistently developed the talent they get at as higher, or higher, rates than Georgia or Alabama. 
 

By year three or four, Michigan’s players that started at much lower levels of potential talent outplay OSU’s players with a much higher talent potential. It is very evident on the OL and DL. That is why Michigan has beat them the past three years. 

I’ve said before that I…

I’ve said before that I wouldn’t take Williams despite what the talking heads on ESPN say. Not sure I’d take Daniels either. Haven’t watched enough of Maye to get a read on him. Penix and Nix are both about as good as they’re gonna get. 
 

JJ, on the other hand, is just really starting to come into his full ability. He seems to read the defense better than those above and this year was very decisive with his passes. His total yard and TD numbers may not have been close to those others, but his efficiency and accuracy was near the top of cfb. Harbaugh isn’t wrong in his praise of JJ, but will probably be wrong with that prediction. Too many stargazers in control of team drafts will pick Williams and Daniels ahead of JJ.

You could include Oregon …

You could include Oregon (even with the two losses to Washington) and maybe PSU or Missouri in the mix. That’s at least 10-11 teams that could’ve been fun and exciting matchups for a playoff. I don’t think there was any G5 team good enough this season though.

Yeah, it’s not just their…

Yeah, it’s not just their top wrestlers at each weight. Their second or even third string guys would be starters at most schools as well. Their depth is unbelievable and what really sets them apart as it increases the competition level in their wrestling room, kinda how Georgia and Alabama football teams in practice were going against really good guys on their scout teams. Just makes the starters all that much better. 
 

Michigan wrestling used to not have that but Bormet has been recruiting very well and bringing in xfers that increase that competition level. Michigan may not ever get to PSU’s level consistently but they’ll get there some years. I fully expect at least one NC under Bormet, if not a couple.

I know your comment was…

I know your comment was kinda /s but Bormet ain’t going anywhere else. He’s got the Michigan wrestling program on the right track to start truly competing with PSU. Heck they just won the b1g tournament a couple of seasons ago and were in it for the NC over PSU that season but just came up a little short. Michigan has a couple of really good freshman and Bormet has been able to get some senior studs to xfer in. If they can keep it going Michigan should be able to get close to PSU and in the mix for NCs every couple few years. 
 

Note: As someone below said, PSU is on another level in wrestling, kinda like Georgia and Alabama have been in football. 

Personally I think it’s a…

Personally I think it’s a great hire, though time will tell. I’m also up for promoting clink or Elston or both in the d-side of the ball. 
 

Kinda done with wanting splashy, headline grabbing hires. Gimme someone who can coach, and will continue the system/scheme and I’m good with that. 

I’m certainly not opposed to…

I’m certainly not opposed to Clinkscale, or Elston, or both becoming DCs, as they’ve both been with the program now for awhile and teaching aspects of the amoeba defense. 
 

Continuity of defensive scheme and coaching is important as well. 
 

I’d rather have those than to get some big name headline grabbing hire that would come in and disrupt what has been built on that side of the ball. Especially as next year’s defense looks to have a bunch of AA talent that have been in the system for awhile now.

Just a note on Saban’s…

Just a note on Saban’s coaching hires: I believe that they weren’t so much about trying to make splashy, headline grabbing type of hires so much as they were hired of proven/semi-proven positional and coordinator coaches who’d failed at HC jobs. Saban, for most of them he hired, reformed and redirected their focus on team building and coaching and then sent them on their way again to become HC’s. Some of them, Sarkisian and Kiffin come to mind, have then gone on to become better HC’s than they were previously. And some of his longer termed coordinators, like Smart, have become really successful head coaches. 

Agree. That’s the feeling I…

Agree. That’s the feeling I got when I saw how much Moore’s contract was for. That Manuel is more of a budget/bottom line guy than one who is truly concerned with putting out the best product on the field/court that Michigan can. 
 

Just a handful of short years ago $5.5 million a year was a pretty good salary for a first time coach, even at one of the bigger football schools. In 2024 that amount is very low, especially considering how much LSU just got its new DC for ($4.5 mil/yr) and the reports of Harbaugh’s offer (anywhere from$12.5-15 mil/yr). In my view, even with Moore being a first time HC, his offer should have been in the $7-8 million range, and a simple guarantee to Herbert for 10 years(considering his known value to the program) would have been an easy choice to make even with a smaller bottom line at the end of the fiscal year. 
 

Winning, and winning a lot, brings in lots of donor $$$$ to a school’s athletic department. In that regard spending money to make money just makes sense. 

He’s not taking everyone,…

He’s not taking everyone, even if the guys gone already were important pieces to the coaching staff. And just because some new guys will be coming in outside of the program right now doesn’t mean that everything is going to go to heck. Moore is a great choice for HC, and I believe he’ll do what is best for Michigan, including replacing coaches or elevating others and the train will keep right on rolling. It’s a totally different situation than bringing in a completely new HC who immediately changes most or all of the staff as well as the X’s and O’s and atmosphere within the football program. I’d much rather be where Michigan is right now than Alabama or Washington (and especially than where OSU is right now).