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Let's smother this meme in its crib, okay? In the aftermath of Nussmeier's hire you can't throw a rock without hitting an article that broaches the possibility of a QB controversy next year. [Picture at right: Adam Glanzman.]

Gentlemen. Let me first say that you are upstanding writers of things on the internet and I respect you all greatly. That dispensed with:

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR COTTON-PICKIN' MAIZE AND BLUE MINDS

FOR PANTS SAKE

WHEN IS THE LAST TIME MICHIGAN REPLACED A FIFTH YEAR SENIOR QUARTERBACK WITH A UNDERCLASSMAN VOLUNTARILY

DON'T LOOK IT UP I'LL TELL YOU NEVER

NEVER EVER

WHAT WAS IT ABOUT SHANE MORRIS'S PERFORMANCE IN THE BOWL GAME THAT CONVINCES YOU HE'S THE GUY, EXACTLY

THAT ONE SCREEN PASS HE THREW THAT WENT A LONG WAY

OR THAT OTHER SCREEN PASS HE THREW THAT WENT A LONG WAY

OR THAT END AROUND THAT TECHNICALLY COUNTS AS A PASS

I MEAN

THE DUDE AVERAGED 5.2 YPA, WHICH IS THREET/SHERIDAN PRODUCTION

HE THREW AN INTERCEPTION THE INSTANT MICHIGAN LET HIM THROW DOWNFIELD

MICHIGAN SCORED SIX MEANINGFUL POINTS

DEVIN GARDNER WAS 80% DEAD MOST OF THIS YEAR AND STILL HAD 8.6 YPA

CUMONG MAN

AHHHHH!

Right. I have high hopes that Morris and his cannon arm will develop nicely, but a senior Gardner coming off a season that's statistically quite promising despite having absolutely zero help from his running game is not getting replaced. Period. Guy was literally playing on a broken foot for most of the OSU game and still put up 41. He smoked Notre Dame. He had a lot of wobbly moments midseason, but when you're getting sacked 21 times in a month that will happen.

I'm sure there will be some rumbles about competition; I will believe each and every one of them just as much as I believed Saban to Texas.

200 pounds of twisted blue steel. Via MVictors, here is an OMG shirtless Bo in 1976 post heart-surgery:

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1981 Rose Bowl. Here's all of it. Dick Enberg, not Keith Jackson, unfortunately:

Goodbye, Jeremy. A Gallon tribute:

Goodbye, NCAA. Underclassmen are leaving college for the pro ranks in increasing numbers, with last years record high of 73 already broken. This draft may feature as many as 100 underclassmen. This is partially due to CBA changes in the NFL that have prevented rookies from getting big first contracts, which changes the equation as to whether they should stay or go:

The new system doesn’t remove huge contracts.  It delays them.  To get a huge contract, a player must have at least three years in the NFL.  And so it now makes sense to get to the NFL ASAFP, and to put in the time necessary to get the second contract.

The increasing money all around the kids probably isn't helping, either.

While this hasn't affected Michigan or—sigh—Ohio State much (Roby was gone either way), Notre Dame has taken a couple of unexpected hits, first RB/KR George Atkinson then TE Troy Niklas.  Atkinson's departure is firmly on the "nuts" side of the scale since he's unlikely to get drafted at all; Niklas is projected as a second-rounder. ND has also lost WR Davaris Daniels to academics for the upcoming semester, but he should be back for fall as long as he crosses his Ts and dots his Is instead of having someone else do it.

A familiar name. Notre Dame is still looking for an offensive coordinator, and it might be someone you've heard of.

A source told Blue & Gold Illustrated that former Michigan offensive coordinator Al Borges, current Buffalo head coach Jeff Quinn and Quinn’s former assistant Don Patterson are on the short list.

Yuuuuup. Unfortunately, twitter is no longer showing the cavalcade of Michigan fans responding to Steve Lorenz's tweet on this topic, otherwise I would count up the AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-variant responses and compare them to the LOL-type responses.

Meanwhile in "really?" Bobby Petrino has swiped Georgia defensive coordinator Todd Grantham for a reported five-year guaranteed contract of one million dollars per year. Louisville is throwing money at their problem like you would not believe, but unlike Doug Nussmeier, Grantham's track record is pretty iffy. Georgia yards per play of late:

  • 2013: 5.4, 54th.
  • 2012: 5.2, 34th.
  • 2011: 4.5, 7th.
  • 2010: 5.2, 39th.
    Georgia was in that 30-40 range just before Grantham showed up, so this is a guy with the best coordinator contract in all the land and he's had one legit defense in the past four years.

I wonder what the real numbers are. The GoDaddy bowl reported attendance of 107% of capacity. This may be slightly optimistic.

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On the whole, bowl attendance declined marginally this offseason, but with the rampant number-fudging going on attendance could be collapsed and the official numbers would just be bolder and bolder lies.

Sounds familiar. The Seattle Seahawks have a pass defense that is almost unprecedented in the recent history of the NFL. How do they do it?

Quietly, the Seahawks have achieved a 13-3 record and home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs by exploiting a loophole: NFL referees are reluctant to throw endless flags for pass interference and defensive holding, even if defenses deserve them.

"They look at it and say, 'We may get called for one but not 10,'" said Mike Pereira, a former NFL vice president of officiating who is now a Fox analyst.

League insiders say this divisional-round matchup between the Seahawks and Saints, the NFC's top passing offense, may be Seattle's rule-bending masterpiece.

"They just seem to not care about the rules," said New York Giants wide receiver Louis Murphy, whose team was routed 23-0 by Seattle this season.

This is also Michigan State's strategy, not that Michigan could protect Devin Gardner long enough for anyone watching that particular game long enough to find out. The Seahawks are masters of the art, trading off less than one pass interference penalty a game (they picked up 13 on the year) for play after play where routes are disrupted and balls fall incomplete.

Since the NFL is the NFL, I'd expect them to come down with some sort of point of emphasis ruling, but college doesn't respond nearly as quickly and the penalties are far less punitive, so the jam-and-grab style with big corners projects to be effective into the future. Jabrill Peppers fits that mold, and once you put a bunch of weight on Channing Stribling he does as well.

Small changes. The NCAA is exploring allowing athletes to do stuff other than athlete, so the Boise State running back whose name I can forget can make hats and rappists can rap, etc.

Etc.: Urban loses Mike Vrabel to BOB's new Texans regime, which is a surprise. Vrabel's supposed to be Urban's ace recruiter; I'm not waiting for OSU's recruiting to fall off a cliff.

I know we no longer have Borges, Hoover Street Rag, but I say you should cram your existing OC-O-Meter philosophy onto whatever OC we currently have. Illinois was ranked, but they just lost to Northwestern so they will no longer be ranked. Probably ever. Meanwhile, Tre Demps is the Big Ten's Marshall Henderson.

Michigan's program is worth as much as an NFL team despite vastly lower revenues. I do not wonder why this is.

Comments

bronxblue

January 13th, 2014 at 3:34 PM ^

The idea that Morris did enough in a bad bowl game to justify a starting spot has been one of the more annoying arguments of the year. He is the QB of the future, and Gardner should be open to competition, but not pooping yourself on the field doesn't mean Morris is ready for staying job over a pretty good senior starter

TwoFiveAD

January 13th, 2014 at 4:47 PM ^

It's right below people asking why Norfleet doesn't get more touches.

And Morris has a shot to beat out Devin for the simple fact, Devin has atrocious footwork in the pocket and rarely can operate in it.  Whether that's because he's scared to death of his offensive line or it's because he has developed bad habbits since his athleticism has made learning how to operate in the pocket meaningless before college, who knows/doesn't matter.

You want to play in Nuss's offense, you better be comfortable making your reads in the pocket.  If Shane beats out Gardner, this is why.  I've seen nothing since watching Devin in High School that leads me to believe he can go through his progressions in a pocket.  I saw more out of Shane in this aspect of the game in one series than Devin in all of his snaps combined this year.

One thing for sure is, a 3 or more turnover game by either QB, and they are getting yanked.  This is a good thing.

 

sj

January 13th, 2014 at 10:24 PM ^

Gardner is far from a perfect quarterback, but I don't see where this belief that Shane Morris has perfect fundamentals comes from. Gardner has good eyes downfield, good ingenuity, and was given a literally impossible task last year. In 2012 he showed he can do a lot. This was a deeply flawed team, he was one if it's best players. 

OTOH, Morris' completion percentage at all stages of his career hasn't been great. He obviously doesn't read progressions that well if he can't see half the field. He has the potential to be great, but saying he's good already seems to be based on hopes. 

sj

January 13th, 2014 at 10:25 PM ^

Gardner is far from a perfect quarterback, but I don't see where this belief that Shane Morris has perfect fundamentals comes from. Gardner has good eyes downfield, good ingenuity, and was given a literally impossible task last year. In 2012 he showed he can do a lot. This was a deeply flawed team, he was one if it's best players. 

OTOH, Morris' completion percentage at all stages of his career hasn't been great. He obviously doesn't read progressions that well if he can't see half the field. He has the potential to be great, but saying he's good already seems to be based on hopes. 

uncleFred

January 13th, 2014 at 11:39 PM ^

which should make all of us feel a lot more comfortable about QB depth. That does not mean that Shane is Michigans's best option at QB. While I favor a QB competition, I have every expectation that Devin will start in 2014 and if the line just raises their blocking the tiniest bit, will exceed everyone's expectations.

Go Blue

 

gbdub

January 13th, 2014 at 3:40 PM ^

Bo wearing Adidas shoes? No wonder he never won a national championship! Clearly, if he'd switched to Nike, the 10 year war would have been the 10 year Buckeye massacre. And they would have used the right color blue!

MH20

January 13th, 2014 at 7:40 PM ^

2014 ACC football standings
  Conf     Overall
Team   W   L         W   L  
Atlantic
Boston College   0 0         0 0  
Clemson   0 0         0 0  
Florida State   0 0         0 0  
Louisville   0 0         0 0  
NC State   0 0         0 0  
Syracuse   0 0         0 0  
Wake Forest   0 0         0 0  
Coastal
Duke   0 0         0 0  
Georgia Tech   0 0         0 0  
Miami   0 0         0 0  
North Carolina   0 0         0 0  
Pittsburgh   0 0         0 0  
Virginia   0 0         0 0  
Virginia Tech   0 0         0 0  

 

Jack

January 13th, 2014 at 3:47 PM ^

This is the first time I've noticed a football team employing that strategy, whereas it's been quite common in basketball for a while. VCU comes to mind immediately, as do those Kramer/Hummel/Moore Purdue teams from a few years ago. They go into every game basically saying "yeah, we're gonna get called for 25 fouls in this game, but we're actually gonna foul you 50+ times, and the refs won't call everything." An incredibly annoying, and effective, strategy.

bigmc6000

January 13th, 2014 at 4:02 PM ^

The MLive article is dated 1/8/14 but the link they have to the Wall Street Journal is dated as last updated 1/7/13.  Not sure who made the mistake but reading through the WS Journal article it seems like they are talking about last year ('Bama vs ND for the championship) not this year.

Erik_in_Dayton

January 13th, 2014 at 4:05 PM ^

I'd like to see refs simply throw a flag if there's a penalty even if there was one on the previous play too.  Barring that, I'd at least like to see the NCAA adopt the NFL rule that a PI call gets the offense to the spot of the foul rather than 15 yards.  It makes far too much sense to interfere on, say, a 30 yard pass in college football right now.

I always assumed the people who thought Morris might start were assuming that DG would  be on crutches for the rest of his life.  It seems reasonable to me that there would be a QB competition if DG has to throw the ball while also getting around on his crutches. 

WolvinLA2

January 13th, 2014 at 4:24 PM ^

I disagree, I hate the NFL rule on that. In college, the ref making that call is usually not very close on a long pass and/or has a poor angle. Giving 40+ yards on a close call is egregious. 15 yards and a first down is plenty of incentive to play good D, considering that's roughly one fifth of a scoring drive. The only time it would be a no-brainer to interfere is if you're clearly beat, and in those cases you usually aren't able to. Considering how difficult it is to complete a pass that is 30+ yards in the air, I'd gladly take my 15 yards if I'm the offense.

Erik_in_Dayton

January 13th, 2014 at 4:37 PM ^

I'm not going to instruct my guys to walk along the edge of pass interference if I'm a defensive coordinator and I know that they're going to be flagged every time they commit pass interference.  They aren't going to be flagged every time, though, and so the risk/reward (IMO and apparently MSU's) starts to tip in favor of walking that line.

WolvinLA2

January 13th, 2014 at 4:58 PM ^

But walking that line also cost MSU the ND game. If you get refs who want to get picky, you can let a team march the field without completing a pass. In that game, ND was getting calls and kept going back to it. It's risky. And there aren't many teams that take that strategy, so it isn't that great of a way to go.

Alton

January 13th, 2014 at 4:53 PM ^

Remember that the reason defensive pass interference is limited to 15 yards in the NCAA is because the rule was changed after the 1980 season...because of a penalty in a Michigan game.

In 1980, Notre Dame took advantage of a terrible 32-yard pass interference call to drive 46 yards in 41 seconds and kick a game-winning field goal against Michigan.  Starting in 1981, the pass interference call was limited to 15 yards.

creelymonk10

January 13th, 2014 at 5:15 PM ^

The situation that warrants a spot foul is when there's 5 seconds left in the game, Michigan is down 6, throws a Hail Mary from the 50 yard line and just as Funchess is about to catch it for the GW TD, he gets lit up a full second beforehand. Instead of an easy TD or ball at the 2 like in the NFL, we get it at the 35 yard line... Just doesn't seem right to me.

raisemeup

January 13th, 2014 at 4:12 PM ^

I'm sure I'll get downvoted for this because it goes against something that Brian said, but...

I don't think it's crazy at all that Morris should start next year.  There's no denying that Devin is talented, but he STILL makes decisions (as a senior) that are unthinkable. Do we really believe at this point that he'll suddenly become a great quarterback? Moreover, why is it hard to imagine Shane improving a lot this offseason and actually beating out Devin for the job? It's not like Devin has been super successful or anything.  Finally, if Morris beats out Devin at least we can put Devin at wideout and still get some value out of him.  Morris would just sit on the bench.

WolvinLA2

January 13th, 2014 at 4:29 PM ^

That is all pretty crazy. Shane would have to improve A TON to be ahead of Devin, and even then he'd still be lacking any kind of experience. This is like saying that Andrew Donnall could improve enough to start over McGary next year. Could it feasibly happen? It wouldn't be the craziest thing that has ever happened, but it's not going to. We don't know what Shane's decision making is like because he hasn't made any. Putting in a starter who has never done anything is tough, and you don't do it when you have the choice. And Devin's decision making got a lot better at the end of the year, once he had started about a year's worth of games.

WolvinLA2

January 13th, 2014 at 4:50 PM ^

So you're comparing Devin Gardner to Jordan Morgan? I guess that's where we really disagree. Devin Gardner had some bonehead moments, but he's a legitimate star. Keep in mind that he was essentially a new starter this past year. Yeah, he started the last few games of 2012, but that was out of necessity and he didn't even practice at the position for most of that year. This last offseason was his first being "the guy" and it took him a handful of games to get it all together. He put up great stats at the end of the year despite being injured for most of it. I'm not saying it's completely impossible for Shane to be better than Devin this fall, just extremely unlikely and we have no evidence to suggest it to be the case.

Hail-Storm

January 13th, 2014 at 4:32 PM ^

Devin has a 60% completion percentage and threw for almost 3,000 yards last year despite;

- having zero run game, thus no chance to set up playaction,

- having very little blocking up the middle,

- having very few constraint plays/ plasses, i.e. screens

- no up-tempo series, that add stress and confusion to defenses 

I believe if these things are fixed to normal levels, he has a break out season.  Add in his running ability, and he is one of the most dangerous men in College football. I htink Morris will be good, but he missed a lot of his senior year and didn't get much game time this year. 

You are welcome to your opinion, but I just don't see much justification for why Morris would start over Gardner.

BiSB

January 13th, 2014 at 4:43 PM ^

I was wondering who would have the cojones to be the first to defend Morris For President in this thread. Kudos to you for bravery, sir.

That said, your idea is bad and you should feel bad.

umumum

January 13th, 2014 at 6:05 PM ^

really?  While I may disagree with others,  I truly don't like to suggest that they don't know what they are talking about---yet you seem not to know what you are talking about?

Gardner's weaknesses are easily outweighed by his many strengths--the OSU game being just one example of the heights he can reach.  There is nothing---absolutely nothing you have seen to suggest that Morris is anywhere close to Gardner at this time.  I hope Morris becomes a good QB--but currently he is a work in progress--strong but one-speed thrower with a questionable touch--6 points against KSU doesn't change it.

You seem quite convinced on Morris.  I am always curious where those like you get that from--besides the anybody-but-the-starter crowd.  I suspect for many they saw Morris play in high school and feel an affinity.

And lastly, you added my favorite caveat--implying that those who disagree with you are simply Brian's sheep.  Nice no lose situation for you.

GoBLUinTX

January 13th, 2014 at 7:03 PM ^

Brady had moved on and it was now Henson's turn.  However, just days before the season opener Henson suffered a foot injury which required RS Freshman John Navarre to take the ball.  Navarre, to his credit, did well and had comfortable wins over Bowling Green and Rice.  With that the slappy talk about Navarre remaining the starter, send Henson packing to the Yankees, became a crescendo.   That silly talk came to an end just days later when Michigan, with Navarre under center, went to UCLA and sharted.

There is no way game experience can be obtained during practice and to equate one losing effort to 16 games is just silly.  I've even read one guy writing that getting Morris experience this year, even if Michigan were to lose two more games than if Gardner started, would be the right call so as to make 2015 and 2016 successful seasons.  

I can only shake my head.

 

Monocle Smile

January 14th, 2014 at 11:10 AM ^

- THAT username

- Failure to understand numbers

- Coup de grace: bitching in advance that the only reason anyone would ever downvote this inanity is because Brian said the opposite. I have a personal policy of downvoting anyone who pulls this shit regardless of whether I agree or not because this shit was old over a year ago.

ST3

January 13th, 2014 at 4:34 PM ^

Brian rhetorically asked, " WHEN IS THE LAST TIME MICHIGAN REPLACED A FIFTH YEAR SENIOR QUARTERBACK WITH A UNDERCLASSMAN VOLUNTARILY?" I think you'd have to go back to Brady's 5th year senior year with the underclassman being Henson in his sophomore year. Henson didn't replace Brady, but they did split the 1st and 2nd quarters. Lloyd then went with the "hot hand" for the 2nd half. I think that possibly cost us another MNC. It was dumb then, and it would be even more dumb next season.

Hail-Storm

January 13th, 2014 at 5:03 PM ^

It cost us the state game.  Henson played both the second and third quarters and put us in a hole (and Burress (sp?) had something to do with it). Brady came out and passed for over 200 yards in just the fourth to almost get the victory, but to little too late.  Henson was ready though, his junior year and was amazing.

Swayze Howell Sheen

January 13th, 2014 at 5:23 PM ^

Sitting Brady then was ridiculous and one of the worst things Lloyd did as a coach.

I remember some NFL guys talking about why Brady went in the 6th round; one of them said "well, if his own coaches don't even like him that much, how good can he be?"

I'm surprised Brady doesn't hold a grudge (and glad that he doesn't, or at least, doesn't seem to).

 

WolvinLA2

January 13th, 2014 at 7:02 PM ^

Did less with more?  I know we had some talented teams over that stretch, but we did pretty damn well.  Did you see Ohio State's season this year?  About half of Lloyd's seasons were like that.  In 13 seasons, we finished in the top 10 in both polls 5 times (one year we were 10th in the coaches but 11th in the AP), top-15 8 times and top-20 12 out of 13 seasons. We went to 5 BCS bowls (if you count the '98 Rose Bowl) and won or tied for the Big Ten title 5 times.  We were outside of the top 3 in the league once, and that was his second year.  Under Carr we won 6 bowl games.  

Take a look and see how many coaches have done that.  There are some, for sure.  But every name you pull out will be a coach known for being a great coach and will be at a program you would consider to be very successful.  

I give Lloyd Carr a ton of respect.

Don

January 13th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^

The guy whose name is on the basketball arena had 2 conference titles and one national championship.

Fritz Crisler is rightfully regarded as a Michigan icon and hero, but for some reason lots of Michigan fans have a pickle stuck up their ass about Lloyd Carr's coaching record.

pescadero

January 14th, 2014 at 11:06 AM ^

I agree that Carr doesn't get the respect he deserves - but lets not underrate Crisler.

 

He won less conference titles - in a much stronger conference. The Big 10 won 4-5 National Championships during his tenure. Crisler also finished in the top 10 for 8 straight years.

 

Plus the whole thing about introducing the winged helmet.