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|4 weeks 6 days ago||You answered your own question||
Bo won the ten year war.
Forget the national titles. I was a student for six of those ten years, and had you asked the students or the alums whether beating Woody was more important that winning a national championship, I assure you the overwhelming choice would have been beating Woody.
If you search around you can find an interview with Bo where he explains that, while he never wanted to lose any game let alone a bowl game, he and his teams took far more joy from beating Ohio State than any other win in a season.
You're caught in changes in historical priorities. Beating OSU was the goal of any season. A bowl game win, while nice, was unimportant..
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Female on male domestic violence||
is a real problem that occurs much more frequently than commonly believed and never gets much press. Women, even smallish women, can do real harm to men who are unwilling to use force to defend themselves. Further, although it didn't seem to occur in this case, female on male assaults are more likely to involve weapons. The automatic assumption that in a male female dispute the male is always the aggressive instigator and the female is by definition the victim is unwarranted unless well supported by evidence.
None of us know what happened here. No visible injuries to either party makes it difficult to view this as a real attack by either party. I suggest that the best course is to withhold judgement until we get better information.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||So conventional wisdom says a team that relies on||
the strengths that Michigan displays can't win a national championship. And I am loving how this team just keeps winning.
Screw conventional wisdom!
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Big Ten Champs||
Clean wins,. Nuff said.
Congradulations guys! You earned it!
|7 weeks 14 hours ago||Congratulations Jabrill||
Hope your endorsement contract sets a record for someone yet to sign with an NFL team. You've earned it. Thanks also for your commitment to Michigan. All the best. I look forward to following your pro career.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||In a word||
Win or lose, MSU has a history of ugly post game behavior. No matter when the game starts, the stadium will fill for an MSU game and it will get national coverage. SImply no reason to deal with the aftermath of a night game with those guys.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Welcome back Braylon||
It's fantastic you're finishing your degree! Just awesome
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Gotta be honest - I'd rather have a rescue dog||
Wolverines pound for pound are among the most vicious and nasty creatures on the face of the earth. Long ago wild kingdom, or a simiar show, had footage of a woverine who catches a salmon in a stream fishing off a fallen log. The wolverine catches this salmon and a black bear decides that it wants the wolverine's dinner. The bear gets about half way on to the log growling and bristling at the wolverine, an animal that it out weighs by at least 350 lbs. The wolverine steps across its kill, gets nose to nose with the bear and, over the course of about 90 seconds, backs the bear off the log and then goes back to eat its dinner.
I understand that, given enough time and effort, man can train pretty much any animal to fulfill pretty much any function for which an animal can be trained. But given the nature of a wolverine, maybe our efforts to train rescue animals would be better directed to other than wolverines.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||So in his interview Harbaugh said possibly 1-2 more||
I just caught part of it so it wasn't clear if Nico had signed yet, but Harbaugh said they might get one more over the weekend. Any thoughts on who that might be?
Welcome aboard Mr. Collins!
|14 weeks 1 min ago||Well Damn||
Bittersweet for certain. Many many thanks coach Wheatley. You'll be sorely missed. The very best of luck with your career. One of the great things about the Harbaugh era is the constant excellence in his coaching staff. One of the hardest things is the inevitably of them departing, especially when it's an icon like TW.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||While my first reaction was "Oh no"||
I can only say thank you Mr. Fisch, for you amazing contributions turning this program around. You will be missed, best of luck.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Dear Mr. Peppers||
Please accept my humble thanks for all you've contributed to the University of Michigan and its football program. Thank you for the enjoyment I've experienced watching you play. Thank you for your commitment through good time and bad. All the best luck for the remainder of your athletic career and whatever follows it!
|16 weeks 6 days ago||The assault charge is assaulting the police officer||
as part of the resisting charge. Not minimizing the charge, just clarifying that he is not charged with assaulting the woman.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Thank you Mr. Morris||
Should it prove true that you've decided to transfer elsewhere, I wish you all the best. Thank you for your consistent and laudable efforts in support of the University of Michigan and it's football program. You are a credit to our school and should I ever have the opportunity to meet you I hope you'll accept my handshake.
|20 weeks 1 day ago||Any thread that ignores the impact of the officials||
is basically pointless. These teams were/are very even. Had Speight been 100% Michigan would have been narrowly favored. With Speight banged up OSU was narrowly favored. Neither team was going to win by 20+ points and probably not by two scores.
It's hard to stop a team when offensive holding ceases to be a foul. It's hard to use the pass to help the run when pass interference ceases to be a foul. This is especially true when your QB isn't 100%. It's hard to play the field position game that had served you well all season when your opponents are handed gift penalties that keeps their drive alive and you get penalties that kill yours.
Michigan lost because the team wasn't good enough to beat OSU in a grossly unfairly called game. Yes they made mistakes. So did OSU. Change almost any one of the flagrantly one-sided calls and Michigan would probably played Wisconsin for the conference championship.
It's time to stop dumping on various members of the team and realize that whether by intent or simple unintended bias the officiating cost Michigan a game they otherwise would likely have won.
|20 weeks 4 days ago||And Jabrill isn't worth your time?||
Winning the 5% might make the difference. Only you can decide what you think his commitment to Michigan is worth with regard to your perceived inconvenience. Since these posts quickly get pushed off the front page I have no objection to reminders as long as voting remains open.
|20 weeks 4 days ago||Let us look at this differently||
The short argument is that Michigan's loss to OSU should carry very little wieght because the game was so poorly officiated that it was gift to OSU. That loss keeps Michigan from playing in the BTCC and proving that they are in fact a top four team, but if we set aside Michigan's loss to OSU should we not also set aside OSU's win?
If the resulting score of The Game wasn't a fair measure of the quailty of the teams, then treat it as a TIE. Drop both OSU and Michigan out of the top three or maybe four slots treat thenm as tied for what every slot they land in and reevaluate after the championships are played.
My personal opinion is that, barring a bizarre situation where the conference champ is 8-5 off a fluke win over a much stronger opponent, a team should have to win their conference to make the playoffs. For that reason I have a hard time putting Michigan in the playoffs, as much as I'd love to see them get a shot at a national championship. But, that also means that,for the same reason, I don't want to see OSU in the playoffs. Except in the most unusual circumstances, there is grave peril in devaluing winning a conference championship. As much as we might want that outcome this year, I can see many future situations where we'd regret the precedent.
I'd love to have the playoff committee drop OSU out of the top four specifically because the determined that the poor quality of the officiating had an overwhelming impact on the outcome, and recommend that all conferences work with the NCAA over the off season to significantly improve officiating.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||Not so far to go||
Last season in Harbaugh's first year the team out played MSU and lost in a fluke play with no time left. I said then that while it might take a while to match up to OSU, the team clearly had already joined the rest of the top teams in the Big Ten.
This season we out played OSU to a double overtime loss. Whether or not you want to put that down to a bad call or not, clearly those two teams were coin flip even. Remember you are comparing a team in Harbaugh's second season against a team in Meyer's fifth season with five seasons of top five recruiting. Harbaugh's MIchigan has already pulled even with Meyer's OSU.
During the ten year war, it was never certain which team would win The Game, only that it would be a battle of equals, or near equals, and either team could win. That's what you witnessed Saturday and that's what you have to look forward to in the future.
|22 weeks 2 days ago||So a win is a win is a win||
Look assuming Speight isn't 100% next week, or even is he is, the rest of this season is giong to be a knife fight.
We have a great defense, excellent special team play, and if our starting QB be is available a pretty decent offense and if not a shaky but talented offense. Boil this down and what do we have? A team that with a break or two can win it all, but they are unlikely to win it in the dominating fashion many of us would like.
Sniff sniff so sad. Set aside your PTSD. Set aside your notions of how a championship team "should" win. Just enjoy the remainder of the ride. It could end next Saturday, but it could end the week after New Year's day.
I was at the 1998 Rose Bowl. So many of you folks have no idea just how amazing last and this season have truly been.
Go Blue. Win it all!
|22 weeks 2 days ago||All you whining buttercups need to suck it up||
O'Korn is starting against a defense that's played through 10 games this season. You can't expect timing and routes to be as synchronized as they were with Speight. A lot of football left to be played. Buckle up.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Man you folks are really something||
Are you all suffering from PTSD?
Yes Saturday's game was ugly and disappointing. Yes assuming Speight either won't play or will be degraded for The Game, is very troubling and disappointing. But let us all get a grip.
While I wish no back luck to anyone, at this point we don't know who will take the field on either side in Columbus. Barrett could get hurt. Speight could be fine. Hell we haven't seen either backup play a full game in Harbaugh's offense. If Speight can't play, can't we at least wait to see how the team performs in the Indiana game before we abandoned all hope?
Iowa was a night game. Play that game at noon and the heavy odds are that Michigan would have won. Penn State beat OSU in a night game. Had they played at noon the outcome probably would have been different. I understand that teams seeking a championship must be able to win their away games. Despite losing Speight and losing last Saturday, Iowa was still one game.
It does not matter that Michigan hasn't won in Columbus since whenever. Sure the home field advantage is real and OSU gets that advantage this year, but the only thing that is relevant is can the Michigan team that takes the field on November 26th find a way to win.
Last season we watched Meyer and his staff call the worse game against MSU. People here generally think that Harbaugh called an atypically poor game last Saturday. Meyer didn't repeat that mistake against Michigan last year. Do you think that Harbaugh will repeat Saturday's mistake in the next two games? I certainly don't.
Suck it up butter cups. There is a reason the games get settled on the field. Given how both teams have been playing all season The Game was always going to be a tossup going in. Recent events leave be less optimistic, but I'm far from as pessimistic as I was in 2013. A game that while a loss, was far closer than pretty much anyone here, including myself, expected.
Go Blue! Beat Indiana then beat tOSU!
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Harbaugh will adapt the offense to maximize the chance to win||
but adaptation is not transformation.
What differences have we seen when O'Korn played in garbage time? Did it look significantly different? There may have been differences. I'm not knowledgeable enough to recognize such things most of the time.
How will Harbaugh adjust the passing game to compensate for differences in synchrony that Speight has built up with the receiving core? Read the 1 on 1 interview with Butt. He knew where Speight would put the ball as he adjusted his route and actually caught it when his vision was partially blocked. No disrespect to O'Korn, but he and Butt can hardly be expected to know each other well enough pull off such coordination.
Assuming a backup starts, it will be interesting to see what Harbaugh does, and I'm looking to the anaysis of the Indiana game. Which brings up one more thing. A lot of us are looking beyond the Indiana game, discussing it like it's some high quality scrimmage. Indiana has played a number of "better" teams pretty tough this year. Beating them with a backup QB, even at home, is not a given.
So in that spirit Beat Indiana!
|23 weeks 21 hours ago||First - Get well soon Mr. Speight!||
Second -- All season long we've not been slow to proclaim how great it is to have 3 QBs who could start on the vast majority of P5 teams. If that sentiment was true last Friday, and I beleive it was, then it's still true today.
I suspect that we'll see a rather different offense no matter who starts on Satuday. We've watched the offense evolve over the season as Speight has gained proficiency in it and his timing with his recievers has improved. Had to imagine that O'Korn (or less likely Morris) will be able to pick up and run the offense with the same sophistication with only a week of prepping to start. However, I have no doubt that Harbaugh will prepare the team to maximize the strengths of whomever starts at QB.
Losing Speght is awful luck for him and the team, but the backups have plenty of talent and at least some real game experience. Keep the faith. Go Blue.
|23 weeks 1 day ago||Perspective. Can we please seek a bit of perspective?||
This was the tenth game of Harbaugh's second season. The team has improved so much in such a short time that we allowed ourselves to expect an undefeated season. Now that can't happen. Despite that a Big Ten championship and a national championship are still in the cards. Consider how far this program has come is such a short period of time.
As last night's game demonstrated, these opportunities can disappear in a few difficult seconds. Still for now they are all very real and under the teams control. Let's all chill until we find out the injury situation and see how the team adapts.
There's a lot of football left to play and I plan to enjoy every minute of it.
|23 weeks 1 day ago||Despite the various times it's happened||
It is not easy to go undefeated in the regular season in the Big Ten. Usually even an elite team requires a bit of luck at the right time(s). While the overall quality of play and injuries in last night's game concerns me, all the cloth rending and proclamations of doom are over blown.
With one or two caveats, I still believe this team can win its last two games, win in Indy, and make the playoffs.
1: Injuries - if Speight can't play, it's unclear the degree that Harbaugh will have to alter the offense to maximize Okorn's (or less likely Morris's) strengths. If Strib is unable to play or is hindered were looking at a major falloff.
2: Officiating/luck - There are always going to be bad calls and bad breaks. No point in complaining about them generally one can only hope that they balance out and if they don't the team can surmount them even very late in the game. What we saw last night was that this team has a hard time doing that as things go against them.
So now we put steel in our spines, leave our lost expectations of an undefeated season in the past, and move forward to the next game.
|24 weeks 19 hours ago||No probably not||
These guys have a great deal of disdain for Jim Harbaugh. It seems personal and in some cases comes across as dislike or worse. If Michigan regularly, say every three years, is in the playoffs and makes and wins say 50% of their available national championship games, they might get to grudging acknowledgement, but that's probably about it.
The SEC butters these guy's bread and they know it. They are already worried that the SEC will only win if it's Alabama and then only one out of every three or four years, destroying their myth of SEC superiority. They aren't about to contribute to the narrative that the top every team of the power five conferences can compete head to head.
|24 weeks 2 days ago||Re: MSU||
As I write this MSU is up 3-0 vs Illinois well into the 2nd quarter. They look nothing like they did last week against Michigan. Although MSU has been in Illinois territory for most of the game either self inflicted errors or the Illinois defense have kept them out of the end zone. The Illinois defense rallied to hold MSU to another field goal with about 2 1/2 minutes left in the half.
There are "down" years and then there are disastrous years. It's not just how many games you lose, it's also how and when you lose them. MSU has lost six in a row. Other than when facing us they look like a losing team. Right now they are struggling with Illinois, who've finally started to move the chains and are at the MSU 20 with a first down and 30 seconds left. Followed by a rushing TD with about 10 seconds left and MSU goes into the locker room down 7-6, having fallen apart at the end of the half.
Whether they win or lose this game, MSU has experienced the collapse of a formerly winning culture. Don't under estimate the difficulty turning a team around after a collapse like MSU has experienced this season.
|24 weeks 6 days ago||From the Heisman website mission statement||
"The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. The winners of the trophy epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work. The Heisman Trophy Trust's mission is to ensure the continuation and integrity of this award."
Regardless of the historical tendency of the voters to go for flashy statistics, pretty clearly the stated intention of the Trophy is not "about production". The comment that part of the strategy for Peppers to win the Heisman includes educating the voters about the real intention of the award is spot on.
ESPN may be over-promoting Peppers based on your definition of the award's purpose, but not based on the purpose stated by the Heisman Trustees.
|25 weeks 43 min ago||Thank you||
"When Chris Frey is attempting to make a tackle, he is not a "defenseless" player.
Bush was PROTECTING the ball carrier, not targeting a helpless player. Hard clean hits are part of football. If plays like this become "targeting" just because of their ferocity the game ceases to exist.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Yes in his post game press conference||
I'm paraphrasing here because I don't feel like putting in the time for a transcription.
He says that he'll always scratch for every inch and every point. There was no way to win at that point so he went for two to get the extra point and that he'd always go for two with one second left. It ended up giving us a celebration which was not his intention.