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|3 hours 54 min ago||Then I looked and saw it was SnowSucks||
I would expect no less from somebody who says "Michigan needs to loosen its academic standards..."
|1 day 8 hours ago||They were waiting to find out whether||
it was blended Scotch or single malt.
|1 day 10 hours ago||According to ESPN's Draft History||
RR had one offensive lineman drafted during his time at WVU (2001-07), Lance Nimmo going in the 4th round in 2003 to the Bucs. Don't know if there were any FA linemen during his time there.
|2 days 1 hour ago||Agreed. Way too much overreacting.||
I have plenty of doubts about Hoke, but there are two options: recognize that as fans we have absolutely no control over the situation and step back from the ledge, or just crap our pants like 14-month-old toddlers. Every day.
|2 days 1 hour ago||They're less than people. They belong in psych wards.||
Add in the good folks who comment on MLive and we've got psych wards filled to bursting.
|2 days 1 hour ago||This is true but ultimately misleading.||
"Two of those coaches had no real resume to speak of and were hired because they were Michigan Men."
69 - 3 losses (Bo)
|2 days 5 hours ago||there is probably an issue that will never be known to people||
Maybe Nuss has severe halitosis.
|2 days 9 hours ago||University was holding my kids hostage||
Hmmmm.... there are a bunch of dogs and cats missing in our neighborhood. Now I know why I've also been seeing dark blue vans with "MIchigan Athletic Department" on them at night around here. Soon these grieving pet owners are going to get anonymous letters with photos showing a gun pointed at Fluffy's furry noggin with the message "Buy UM season football tickets or Fluffy gets it."
|2 days 12 hours ago||This is your snark interpretation of K, right?||
This can't be real.
|2 days 22 hours ago||A self-lol?||
I didn't upvote myself.
|2 days 23 hours ago||These aren't the droids you're looking for||
|3 days 1 hour ago||UM won't let anybody touch the classic UM football look||
So that wasn't UM who approved the bumblebee clowniforms?
|3 days 3 hours ago||Don's avatar is an actual photo of Don.||
It's actually a highly-retouched photo. You should see what I really look like before I've had my coffee. "The Cryptkeeper" doesn't do it justice...
|3 days 4 hours ago||how much they complain about everything.||
Speaking only for myself and nobody else, the only thing keeping me from buying season tickets is the ungodly cost. I grew up in the early 60s as a Michigan fan (family tradition), and MSU and OSU kicked our ass back then for the most part.
I just can't justify four figures for a pair of seats, not when I've got a bathroom that needs a re-do and a daughter in grad school.
|3 days 4 hours ago||PSDs are not subject to Big Ten gate sharing policies||
That is verrrry interesting.... I did not know that.
So if Brandon did away with PSDs as a separate fee and just rolled the costs into the ticket prices, all of a sudden he has to share a bunch of that dough with Maryland or Indiana or whoever.
|3 days 4 hours ago||Maryland is last game so I would assume it would be above 100K||
Not so fast, my friend... we might be marching forward into the past.
Our last home game in 1974 was on Nov. 16 against Purdue. We were 9-0 and ranked #3, and there was feverish anticipation of the looming showdown against OSU for the trip to the Rose Bowl, and, just as importantly, revenge for '73.
Even so, we could only muster 88,902 for the last home game.
|3 days 5 hours ago||see our first under 100,000 paid attendance crowd?*||
*First since 1975.
Yes, I am that old.
|3 days 5 hours ago||Lots and lots of ex-season ticket holders + new UM president||
Interesting days ahead for Mr. Brandon
|3 days 5 hours ago||"required donation"||
One of my favorite oxymorons.
|3 days 5 hours ago||Some here have no clue what "throwing players under the bus" is||
THIS IS "throwing players under the bus":
"Marcus [Fillyaw] was absolutely awful. That's about as PG rated as I can say it. He was awful. Our guards were awful. Our three starting guards had one assist and seven turnovers. They must think it's a tax credit!" he said. "It's unbelievable how our starting guards played. And lets talk about our big guys. Two for 11. How can you go two for 11? My wife! My wife can score more than two buckets on 11 shots because I know my wife will at least shot fake one time." Hinson also said his players were "uncoachable right now" and called them "mama's boys."
THIS IS NOT "throwing players under the bus":
"I have to be a better leader, I should have taken some of the leadership (opportunities myself) and not anointed some of that (to just senior players)...I could have done a much better job with consistency. Every day.... (I should have stepped in) a little more, yeah. I think that's part of it."
|4 days 11 hours ago||Ft. Brady?|
|5 days 6 hours ago||Awww did I upset a Staee troll||
WolvinLA2 is the furthest thing from a troll of any kind, let alone an MSU troll. All they were asking was what this new commit has to do with MSU and Izzo.
|5 days 7 hours ago||There is a frequent assertion here that improved quality of play||
will cure the attendance issues, but the historical record would suggest it's not that simple.
The statistical record of game attendance can be found here, and this link is to 1969:
Bo got here in '69, and in spite of the obvious improvement in the team, average attendance was only 71K. The only crowd over 100K was OSU.
In '70, even after the magical '69 season, average attendance was still only 79K. The only 100K crowd was MSU. Even though we were undefeated and ranked #5 in the country, our last home game (Iowa) drew a paltry crowd of 66K.
In '71, we went through the season undefeated, but still only averaged 80K. The only 100K+ crowd was OSU. Going into the Nov. 6 game with Iowa we were ranked #3, but only drew 72K.
The '72 and '73 seasons continued the trend of gradually rising average attendance, but still only one game—either MSU or OSU—was over 100K, and attendance in late season games when UM was undefeated and ranked in the top 5 was still substantially below 100K.
'74 was the first season in which we had two games over 100K, but still only drew 88K for the game against Purdue in November when we were undefeated and ranked #3 in the country.
'75 was the year we began the consecutive streak of crowds over 100K, but we still had three games under 100K.
The fact that it took six seasons of elite on-the-field performance to get attendance to exceed 100K on a weekly basis would indicate that the relationship between attendance and performance is not as simple as wins and losses.
Don Canham had to sell the daylights out of Michigan football to get attendance up, and he wasn't above using a bit of chicanery to goose attendance numbers, which is partially what Band Day was about—he invited high school bands from all over the state to perform, and he sat all those band members in the stands to help fill the seats and increase the official attendance.
However, I'm pretty sure that Canham did not raise ticket prices dramatically in those early years, regardless of how well Bo was doing, and even after 1975, ticket prices were reasonably stable year-to-year.
|5 days 7 hours ago||So he's trying both at the same time.||
I should have mentioned that there is a fourth option that sales & marketing numbskulls normally think is a sound solution to a supply/demand imbalance: Sell it harder! Advertising! Email blasts! Promotional gimmicks! Branding!
All this is unlikely to move the needle much if there are basic problems with price or quality, but the marketing folks are gonna do what they do regardless.
|5 days 8 hours ago||the spike has been a bit rapid.||
Great info, Yostal. It'd be interesting to see the same breakdown with regular ticket-holders. I suspect the price spike has been even more pronounced.
|5 days 10 hours ago||If he was playing in Boston or NY or LA||
the hype would be off the charts, but it's possible that the relative anonymity of playing in SLC might provide some advantages in terms of fewer distractions and fewer people blowing smoke up his ass, which no rookie ever benefits from.
|5 days 12 hours ago||I hope DG isn't as sensitive about this as some of our fans||
Brady didn't say anything that Bo Schembechler wouldn't have said too, along with a million other head coaches. And after a 7-6 season, there's little reason for him to declare anybody a pre-emptive starter four months from the start of fall camp.
With respect to what Shane showed in the bowl game, I would expect that most kids with real talent are going to make noticeable strides between their first season and their second spring camp.
Ultimately, the angst this is revealing is a function of going 8-5 and 7-6. If we'd gone 10-2 and 11-1 with victories over OSU and MSU in the last two years, Hoke's statements wouldn't be subject to this level of obsessive interpretation. It wasn't too long ago that he was said to "poop gold" around here.
|5 days 13 hours ago||Expanding the student section before 2011: epic fail||
Do you know how much it was expanded?
It seems to me that the student attendance issues are are at least partially explained by an imbalance of supply and demand. If you have people buying tickets but not showing up, then they don't really demand the product. And now it appears we're not even getting enough students to buy the tickets in the first place.
The proper solution last season was obvious and simple: cut back the size of the student section. It wouldn't have required the disastrous GA seating clusterfuck; we could have maintained the existing policies on seat allocation and simply pruned back the supply of student tickets to more closely match the numbers of students who actually want to be at the game badly enough to show up at kickoff.
This may not solve or address all of the issues relating to game day experience, but business fundamentals aren't complicated. If you have more product than willing customers, you have three options: 1. Reduce the price; 2. Improve/enhance the quality (in this case scheduling); 3. Reduce the supply. So far, the Athletic Department has done none of these.
|6 days 6 hours ago||even more people that will gladly become new season tix holders||
For decades it's been an unquestioned article of faith among many UM fans that the demand for season tickets is literally inexhaustible, and that there was no price point that would constrain demand. I think this season is going to be a significant test of that view.
|6 days 6 hours ago||the 100,000 attendance streak would be broken this year.||
We're very possibly at the point where the announcement of crowds in excess of 100K will have all the reality and accuracy of the new Soviet Five-Year Plan that Brezhnev announced in 1973.