FWIW: Possible OSU sanctions
I don't know this website and a friend sent this link to me, so I am taking this with a big grain of salt. But it's on the internet so it must be true right?
Basically the article says that OSU will be hit with the following:
- All victories from the 2009 and 2010 season will be vacated
- Will not be televised for the 2011 season
- Will not be allowed to partake in post season bowl games for 2011 or 2012.
- Will lose 10 scholarships in 2011, and 5 per year in 2012 and 2013.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:13 PM ^
Seems like too much. I hope so, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Esp, TV, there is no way. If it didnt happen to USC who basically told the NCAA FU throughout the entire process, I dont see it happening to OSU, unless there is way more to the story than we already know.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:12 PM ^
What in the world is sportales and why are they worth the time it takes me to load the page? Forgive me if I don't believe what a poster called "cybertruth" says about Ohio State football without some sort of corroboration.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:26 PM ^
I refuse to believe any website that has a story about "Dancing on Ice" on its front page.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:13 PM ^
Yeah, not buying it. What does this have to do with the 2009 season? Not televised? please, even the NCAA wants to keep their cash cow.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:33 PM ^
Yep. Tatgate didn't even start until april 2010, which is when the tat 5's ineligibility would have started.
No television? there's too much at stake, especially for the other schools. USC didn't get it this bad, OSU will not get it this bad.
Tressel was alerted to the fact in april of 2010, but the players had started selling their stuff in 2009, so they would have been inelligble then.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:13 PM ^
I feel thats wishful thinking and the televised this really doesnt seem right cause theres 12 other teams playing...
March 21st, 2011 at 12:14 PM ^
It's a garbage site. Proven.
The NCAA will never institute the TV ban again. And although all the other sanctions are possible, I doubt it will be as soon as 2011.
some awesome examples of theirs:
http://sportales.com/football/michigan-hires-new-head-football-coach/
or this one which featured this:
March 21st, 2011 at 12:14 PM ^
That would be the harshest punishment since SMU's death penalty, so no, I'm not buying it.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:15 PM ^
I don't think it will be that severe.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^
That fat dog made this thread worthwhile.
The caption was too appropriate to pass up. I loved that fat dog too. Nice laughs for a Monday lunch break.
Edit: What the hell is with the neg-bomb? I know the up/down votes don't count, but I'm curious to know what I did to deserve that.
I think it is someone trying to be funny. There was a thread couple days ago where every post was negged.
But you shouldn't try to explain funny.
That's fine. I negged you for telling me what I shouldn't explain.
For the love of God........... that made me LOL.
+1
cartoon dog that used the stray cat to get free meat, and he would beat up the cat for forgetting the gravy.
This picture looks like it was taken seconds before the cat and mouse walk in and tell the dog they didn't forget the gravy this time.
Yeah this
March 21st, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^
but I'll believe it when it actually happens.............I have to believe that they'll get hit with some addiitional penalty beyond the 5 game suspensions, let's hope......
March 21st, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^
1) Those penalties are NCAA penalties. NCAA hasn't even sent OSU a letter of allegations yet, which is the first step. OSU ain't going to ban themselves.
2) Even if the NCAA announces sanctions, they'll start the following season, 2012, as a lot of contractural obligations have already been set for 2011. For this to be true, NCAA would've had to hand out sanctions in like Feb timeframe.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^
Unless this is reported by Inez Sainz I'm not buying in.
Also, can I get an Inez imbed please? K, thx.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:27 PM ^
But here's a google image link -that should be good enough for ya.
http://www.google.com/images?q=Inez+Sainz
She really isn't even tangentially related to anything Michigan or even this thread so asking for an imbed probably isn't going to happen...
March 21st, 2011 at 12:37 PM ^
and my wife Venezuelan wife would kick me in the nuts, but Sportales -> Inez Sainz.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^
March 21st, 2011 at 12:20 PM ^
what close/inside sources can a site like "Sportales" really have?
Sounds like they are throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.
I bet their source is Ducktales.
Anyone remember this:
I don't know why you brought up Duck Tales in this thread but I'm happy that you did.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:21 PM ^
Do you mean if the entire ocean salt was combined into one grain because, seriously, there's no way in the tOSU would get a TV ban and they won't bother touching anything from 09.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:35 PM ^
Yes. I don't believe this either. Just wishful thinking
March 21st, 2011 at 12:25 PM ^
Does anyone really think there will be any severe consequences? They were already caught last year and were STILL allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl. I have lost all faith in/respect for the NCAA. They aren't going to do anything, they're the biggest joke this side of Bud Selig.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:59 PM ^
These are completely different infractions though. Pryor and Co. were Hunt and Liddy; the catalyst for all of this falling but certainly not the worst offenders. Tressel is obviously Nixon, who lied repeatedly about his involvement in the case.
Liddy and Hunt did time, but Nixon is the one who really got hammered. These new penalties (not the ones in the OP, I don't buy that, just in general there are some type of penalties coming) are for the unethical conduct violation Tressel admits, and maybe a loss of institutional control or a failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance case.
So Dantonio might be Gerald Ford?
No. Dantonio won't be able to pardon Tressel.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:27 PM ^
This ain't NCAA Football 08, where a good 1/3 of the programs have schollie reductions, a good 1/4 have postseason bans, and something like 10% are banned from TV.
Your backup kicker oversleeping and missing his 8am class once landed you on probation in that game.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:28 PM ^
I doubt it.
Besides, I don't think the NCAA would take away 10 scholarships for the 2011 season. Players have already signed Letters of Intent for next year and completed their recruitments. If they were going to reduce scholarships, I would guess those reductions wouldn't start until 2012.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:32 PM ^
Why would they vacate 2009 games again?
March 21st, 2011 at 12:36 PM ^
Well, it's *possible* that the loaner car thing could stretch back that far, but I doubt an investigation into something like that would have been completed this quickly.
It also could be possible that Rife testifies that he bought the MNC ring in '04 or '05 or something. That would mean they played with ineligible players and would basically be the same situation as USC.
If he bought it in '04 or '05, the player who he bought it from wouldn't have been playing for OSU in 2009.
March 21st, 2011 at 12:58 PM ^
On the way to work today I was listening to NFL Morning Kick and they had Ross Homan on. They asked him about TAT5 and he said they didn't know the rules when they were FRESHMAN. So unless he slipped up about their class this may go back a few years with JUST 2009/10 TAT5 and impact the sophomore year eligibility also.
I do agree it's way too early but it's fun to watch the Buckeye nation.
If the NCAA had any balls they would vacate the wins for last year and the bowl game, get all $$ back forthe bowl game and suspend the players and Tressel from all football related activities for the season. No practices, no contact with the team at all.
Of course none of this will happen as OSU is a sacred cow of the NCAA just like USC. USC hasn't suffered at all. They signed 30 players on signing day. Where's the scholarship reduction?? Screw the appeal, by the time the NCAA gets around to enforcing the reduction in schollies they will be bowling again.
Maybe the NCAA has had it wil Trssel and the shenanigans at OSU with Clarrett, Smith and tatgate along with Tressel's crap at YSU. Doubt it!
I swear to God I'm gonna pistol whip the next guy that says Shenanigans.
I call shenanigans.
Hey Farva, what's the restaurant where you like to go with all the goofy shit on the wall and the mozzarella sticks?
Shenanigans? Fuckin' love that place!
No matter what happens with the Bucks, their games will be always be televised. This isn't like Sparty in the 70's when they were banned from having their games televised for 3 seasons. (College football teams only got 2 televised games per season back then anyway). In 2011, you can pretty much watch any team whenever you want. Besides, what about us? The good guys? THE GAME has been televised every year since Nixon was in office. ABC wouldn't dare NOT show the game.
In the meantime, you have to love how Buckeye fans continue to handle this. The phrase, "This happens at every school" was made the norm by them back in 2003 when the Maurice Clarrett thing broke. Now they're doing it again.
Copied and pasted from yahoo sports page:
"While the Tressel situation is unfortunate every major program has been accused and/or found guilty of some sort of infraction. This will be a distant memory in no time. Only haters like yourself will cling to it like a lifeline." ~Bilge
So, even when your coach gets busted for lying, it's O.K. to use the excuse that it happens at every school. Good to know.
Insert Pryor "everybody murders" joke here.
Laughable. Anything more than vacating wins would be shocking and I'm even sure that will happen. As for "lack of institutional control", I just don't buy them handing that down in light of the way the investigation has gone so far. USC basically replied to the NCAA notice of allegations with "prove it" and they eventually did. OSU has at least taken a more cooperative approach, which certainly can't hurt. Any fan of UM or any other team hoping for sanctions even remotely close to this are setting themselves up for disappointment.