Mike Leach with some ideas on how to keep CFB from becoming NFL Minor League

Submitted by poseidon7902 on July 21st, 2022 at 12:02 PM

https://www.on3.com/news/mike-leach-presents-radical-change-to-college-football-in-transfer-portal-era-calls-out-cancel-culture-mississippi-state-bulldogs/?utm_source=social&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=sec_country&fbclid=IwAR2l6lwkHGBbRSSvBzI9J_mvsV0qgue6uO_i4hxlvgUZsc5ZuYDLsPWq034

 

That link is brutal, but couldn't find a shorter one.  He postulates that they should incentivize staying where you commit and finishing your degree.  

“Let’s say I want to continue to be a traditional student-athlete. Well, there’s a number of reasons for that. One, they can’t cut me for playing ability. Two, I can’t get traded. Three, and I think we ought to do this because I think we ought to cultivate and encourage people getting their degree, if you get your degree and you play and you exhaust your eligibility at a university, give them $150,000. If you go in the transfer portal you’re not eligible for the $150,000. And then if you don’t get your degree you’re not eligible for it

FauxMo

July 21st, 2022 at 12:09 PM ^

Four, if the player stays to get his degree but isn’t very good or gets injured, call him a pussy and lock him in a utility shed. 

JMo

July 21st, 2022 at 12:12 PM ^

Noticed you mentioned the super long link. So the (not so) interesting thing about that link is that over half of it is unnecessary to get people to the article. It's mostly just referral stuff. It tells me that you got the link originally off of Facebook. Maybe a page called SEC Country? Plus a bunch of garbage the government uses to track where you sleep at night, etc.

Paring it down to just the first part would work too.

https://www.on3.com/news/mike-leach-presents-radical-change-to-college-football-in-transfer-portal-era-calls-out-cancel-culture-mississippi-state-bulldogs

joeyb

July 21st, 2022 at 1:16 PM ^

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1974

July 21st, 2022 at 2:04 PM ^

I think it means you touch yourself often at night.

I'm reminded of the Beavis and Butthead episode where they're at the pearly gates. A list of transgressions for Beavis is read. It's a few hours of "On mm/dd/yyyy you touched yourself in an impure manner."

ldevon1

July 21st, 2022 at 12:18 PM ^

1. Well part of the issue with his ideas is that 99% of the players aspire to play pro football, and if they are good enough, they will leave and make way more than $150,000. 

2. Doesn't NIL just blow the whole idea out of the water? 

bluebrains98

July 21st, 2022 at 12:21 PM ^

If there are 85 scholarship players on a team, how many of those transfer or don't graduate? We are highly focused on those who do transfer or leave early, but overall, it's probably a miniscule percentage, so most players would already be eligible for this reward. This proposal would result in a gigantic money suck for universities for the players who probably aren't generating that much revenue for the schools. Of course there are exceptions, and I am all for rewarding loyalty and graduating, but this is just dumb.

And, this is only focused on football...how do we reconcile this with the non-revenue sports?

UMForLife

July 21st, 2022 at 12:23 PM ^

I am not sure what he is trying to do here. Is this money coming from college's share of TV revenue? If yes, I am all for it. It gives everyone something in addition some players who can make money out of NIL.

TeslaRedVictorBlue

July 21st, 2022 at 12:24 PM ^

University stipend for getting a degree.. hmm. . seems okay. Who is paying for it? Do other revenue generating sports have to pay out? Is there a scale? 

Honestly, I just wish they put NIL back in the box.

ak47

July 21st, 2022 at 12:29 PM ^

Solving a problem that doesn't exist. We don't know what transfers will look like in a post covid year world and even if it looks like it does now its still fine because it about letting kids do what is best for them

Sopwith

July 21st, 2022 at 12:33 PM ^

"how to keep CFB from becoming NFL Minor League"

Train left the station on that one a few decades ago.

Next article: Mike Leach with some ideas on how to keep SF Bay Area housing costs from becoming expensive.

Lakeyale13

July 21st, 2022 at 12:39 PM ^

Way too late....College is the minor leagues for the NFL.  It isn't amateur sports.  The idea that someone could be a "traditional student athlete" is gone forever.

Mercury Hayes

July 21st, 2022 at 1:10 PM ^

By in large, I bet those who transfer don't make more money in football or have more success on the field. Of course there are some that do (Kenneth Walker, Jalen Hurts, and other stars). But how about the 5-10 backups that transfer each year, bounce around and never make it. That $150,000 is forcing them to stay and possibly not play. And then if the leave and don't have NFL money to back it up then you've just created a situation where the rich get richer. (Starters/stars get paid more and those kids who weren't good enough, got hurt, or didn't make the two deep lose out)

BostonWolverine

July 21st, 2022 at 2:08 PM ^

The real problem is the mentality that CFB isn't *already* the NFL's Minor League. 

 

EDIT: Didn't read the whole thread. This is covered astutely by others above. 

bronxblue

July 21st, 2022 at 5:39 PM ^

The only novel idea here is offering money to kids who don't transfer, which feels like a great way to abuse players by limiting their ability to move away from a bad situation and not much of a deterrent for kids who are NIL checks for well above that.

There are lots of ways to encourage student-athlete retention at schools; trying to buy their love with $150k is pretty low down the totem pole for me.  I also assume a lot of non-revenue athletes (i.e. most college athletes) would love to get that $150k but advocates for it would be extremely annoyed that the AD was directing millions of dollars to those sports (including *gasp* women's sports) instead of to football and basketball.

FlexUM

July 21st, 2022 at 2:34 PM ^

I don't hate it and appreciate the brainstorming. Not a big Leach fan since the shed incident, but putting that aside if the goal is to incentivize (but not force!) athletes to stay at the schools they are at and finish out a degree it's really not a bad idea. 

I like it even more if it uses the TV money to "give" some of the profit to the kids that are out there actually making the money. 

Not sure how that all pans out as far as having to do it with all sports. Lot of nuance that would need figured out and I'm poking holes through it now but don't hate the overall premise. 

Blue Middle

July 21st, 2022 at 3:20 PM ^

Like most, Leach is looking at this the wrong way.

The NCAA should embrace being the NFL's minor league (or lose its talent to one of these upstart leagues trying to be a minor league) and create a system that is beneficial for all parties.

Universities have a lot to offer and could build programs that specifically prepare players to navigate and protect them through the NIL process, set them up for the future, provide commission-and-fee free fiduciary guidance on financial matters, and give them alternate career paths to playing professional football for the vast majority that don't make it.

It's not rocket science.  But as long as we keep pretending these are "student" athletes, it will never happen.

bronxblue

July 21st, 2022 at 3:46 PM ^

Mike Leach is low-key one of those really dumb, regressive coaches who people think is interesting because he cracks some jokes and does some meme-ish stuff.  I won't tsk tsk the whole article but here's a couple of things that jump out about his claims:

  1. Offering $150k for people who don't go to the portal and graduate.  Well, coaches leave all the damn time and the new guys who come in may, for example, de-incentivize existing players to stick around.  Mike Leach's Mississippi States team have had a fair number of transfers in and out; UM's own Jordan Morant is down there right now.  And beyond that, there are numerous perfectly good reasons for a kid to want to leave a school (for example if his new HC tweeted a picture of a noose) for another program and punishing a college student because of a decision he made as a 17-year-old seems counter-productive to his claims to protect "traditional student athletes".  Instead it mostly reads like a draconian view of labor wherein you rob them of agency because you feel like you own them.
  2. He claims that if we're not careful college teams are going to start cutting underperforming players or trading them.  For the first claim, that already basically happens (we call it "roster management") and sucks but if the agreements between schools and athletes moved more toward employer-employee agreements labor law would become more involved and arguably it would be harder to release players (at least in certain states) than we currently see.  As for trading players, that would require a pretty significant change to the NCAA/conference infrastructure and would, again, require a ton of wholesale changes to the student-athlete/school dynamic.  Leach's concerns are extremely hypothetical at this point and would likely require a far more nuanced view than the one he applied.
  3. "Cancel culture" is just a buzz word for someone who has done some pretty stupid things and gotten really trivial amounts of pushback.  Mike Leach has made north of $50M in his career coaching football at a number of schools; his career record is 150-103, his conference record is about .500.  If he thinks he's gotten "cancelled" or that he's going to get "cancelled" for saying "oh man, college football sure is getting a bit more professionalized and maybe we should pump the brakes - here is some Freshman-level analysis of the problem" then I think he can rest easily.

I'm probably in the minority here but while I do think Harbaugh deserves pushback for some of the things he's said and done it's astounding that he gets dragged by the media for relatively minor transgressions while Leach seems like just an asshole and gets treated as "quirky" because he likes pirates and blows his coffee a lot during a press conference.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

July 21st, 2022 at 5:03 PM ^

I really do like the $150K prize for graduating at one's initial school of choice. That's an at-least-somewhat-elegant solution. It probably requires a caveat or three, but I vote for further exploring that

jhayes1189

July 21st, 2022 at 5:23 PM ^

This would have to broadly governed somehow, as other teams would just start offering money up front for playing 1 season….especially if the NCAA gets this unlimited transfer thing passed 

Eph97

July 21st, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^

Seems like a lot of old white men have a problem with (mostly) black players getting paid. Why is it you don't hear black coaches (assistant or head) complaining about NIL ruining the game?

McSomething

July 22nd, 2022 at 6:23 AM ^

"Mike Leach with some ideas to stop college football from becoming the thing it has already been for decades."

I honestly do not understand how so many find him endearing. After walking out on a team comprised 100% of his recruits, calling them "frauds" I do believe. How did that not sink his public perception?