ESPN Link: Denard Accident Update
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/17165525/jacksonville-jaguars-rb-dena…
Part of the "article" below:
According to the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office report, Robinson's Chevy Impala slowly drove through an intersection on the wrong side of the road and ended up in a retention pond shortly after 4 a.m. July 3.
Robinson was found asleep at the wheel of his car while it was slowly sinking into the pond. The 25-year-old Robinson and his passenger, 29-year-old Marissa O. Staples, were unhurt. However, police officers had to tell Robinson multiple times that the car was in the pond and convince him to leave, according to the police report.
The report also stated that officer M.T. Borgert screened Robinson for impairment and determined that Robinson was not impaired and should not be charged with driving under the influence. In addition, it was written on the police report that alcohol and drug tests were not given.
However, Robinson said Thursday he was tested for impairment and he didn't seem pleased with the fact that the report said the police had trouble waking him up and convincing him and his passenger to leave the car.
So weird.
I mean it seems weird because the cop says he wasnt high or drunk, and also no one wants to believe that he was. Everybody loves Denard and its pretty obvious that he was impaired and the cops cut him a break. Just my opinion
it is pretty unlikely that an accident like this doesn't get checked for booze or drugs. in michigan it's required for accidents with injuries (no injuries here, i know). granted, there are some designer drugs that are close to impossible to test for, but denard hasn't ever been a doper as far as anyone has ever heard, right?
could be carbon monoxide. could be truly tired. and yes, could be drugs/booze, but that's not my first guess.
is that there is so much unknown and it's not like they're making them at a pfizer lab - they're made in a basement or a garage or somewhere by some dude(s) who failed chemistry, biology and probably personal hygene, but are real creative. i have heard/read/prosecuted/defended some pretty scary drug cases in one fashion or another, and other than PCP or somebody in some meth psychosis, those desginer drugs are the most harsh and can do permanent damage.
Whether something is "natural" or originated with a plant really has nothing to do with how safe it is. There are all sorts of lab-synthesized compounds that can easily kill you, just as there are plant extracts and botanicals that can end your life. It's all about how much the scientific community knows how about the particular compound's use in humans. The truth is that we know hardly anything about about a lot of dietary supplements that are legally marketed. And we know even less about most designer drugs for which nobody has even attempted to demonstrate a therapeutic use.
to the classics.
Ricin, nature's candy.
The secret ingredient is love.
Where can you get these impossible to detect drugs? I'm asking for a friend who wants to avoid going to that place.
| Methylamino-1-phenylpropan-1-one | |
| Some trade and other names: | |
| Methcathinone | |
| Cat | |
| Ephedrone | |
| 3, 4-methylenedioxy amphetamine | |
| 5-methoxy-3, 4-methylenedioxy | |
| amphetamine | |
| 3, 4, 5-trimethoxy amphetamine | |
| Bufotenine | |
| Some trade and other names: | |
| 3-(B-dimethylaminoethyl)-5 hydrozyindole | |
| 3-(2-dimethylaminoethyl)-5 indolol | |
| N,N-dimethylserotonin; 5-hydroxy-N-dimethyltryptamine | |
| Mappine | |
| 2, 5-Dimethoxyamphetamine | |
| Some trade or other names: | |
| 2, 5-Dimethoxy-a-methylphenethylamine; 2,5-DMA | |
| 4-Bromo-2, 5-Dimethoxyamphetamine | |
| Some trade or other names: | |
| 4-bromo-2, 5 dimethoxy-a-methylphenethylamine; 4-bromo |
lots more where this came from
That stays in your system for a while and is life threatening. If that was the cause, they would both likely stay "sleepy" once the police arrived. This would have lead to further testing.
Yep, nothing weird about a guy driving a car into a pond and then having more questions than answers after police reports are released.
Hundreds of presumably sober Americans pressed the wrong pedal in their early 80s Audis. The NHTSA was too nice to blame the drivers.
Except if you watch the video, the car is moving so slowly, it would seem he didn't have a foot on either the gas or the brake pedal.
You've never had a brain fart where you forgot something completely obvious?
i've brainfarted on which pedal is which a couple times, always figured it out before hitting something, but is scary as hell.
Being involved in an accident while asleep is extremely impairing on the senses. Once when I was on my way home from work a lady, and her mother had fallen asleep while traveling southbound on I-75. She crossed into the northbound lane, and flew 20 feet onto an access road parallel to the interstate. It took me a good 15 minutes to convince her that she was just in an accident. The only thing she could say was "okay lets go mom" while trying to start the car.
A similar thing happened to a friend of mine (as he was driving). Honestly, I find it unlikely that Denard, who has always seemed squeaky clean, would get a huge break from this cop and then be upset about the police report that came out later. Denard has earned the benefit of the doubt on this from me.
Okay, I'll suggest a possibility, not because I have any idea if this happened, but because you don't either and I'm finding the presumption of guilt unfair. Have you ever driven at night in a car with a sleeping passenger? It can be hard to stay awake. I've had to wake up my girlfriend while she was asleep in the passenger seat because I was struggling to stay awake and focused without any kind of stimulation - and with the sounds of a sleeping person six inches away.
Is that what happened? I have no idea. But it's definitely possible, and if anyone in the Michigan football community has earned the benefit of the doubt from us with this kind of thing, it's Denard.
2 things...
If he got a break from the cops then why would he have an issue with how it was handled?
IMO, if you get off of a DUI or something of that nature you count your lucky stars and move on.
So that doesn't make sense.
Secondly, have you ever been to Florida? There are little retention ponds EVERYWHERE. I think people have this picture that he crashed into some lake.
Have you ever been sleep in a car? Do you wake up every time the car stops at a light? Have you ever been sleep in a car and slept through a gas station stop or a quick fast food run?
It's possible. It happens all the time - to people who aren't under the influence of anything other than fatigue.
The said he was moving at a slow rate of speed. It's VERY possible that he could've fallen asleep and slowly crepts into a rention pond in Florida - and remained sleep.
I'm not saying that's what happened, I'm not saying you're wrong. But for you to use "obvious" is kind of bullshit when you take these 2 things into account.
Boom, there's the dynamite.
Drive by the pond he rolled into every day on my way to work. It's not much bigger than a HS swimming pool.
It is very easy too fall asleep while driving late at night. I have done it many times. But I have never drove into any body of water and kept sleeping. Hell if I hydroplane and Im groggy while driving that wakes me the hell up pretty quick. Who knows really..but I hope it was just he was tired as hell. Very possible I agree.
One other thing. The report says that the girl with him was also sleeping while sinking in the water..so that is also kind of suspicious.
But I love Denard just as much as anyone and am glad he came out of this ok.
a good guy here in Jax, thus the benefit of the doubt, but to say he's beloved here wouldn't be true. You really think multiple officers risked their careers to protect the name of the Jags' 3rd string RB? I think the story is what it's being portrayed as, with Denard just being sleep deprived. He's not a god here.
Ambien is a helluva drug.
DR smoked weed, but if it was, I bet he did it fast.
some people can fall asleep, even at the wheel, without artificial assistance
I think it was probably a monoxide leak They wouldn't have been that deeply asleep otherwise. If it was drugrs, alcohol or someone slipped them a date rape drug, they would have appeared exxtremely impaired.
was already out too lol
...that he was not wearing a Coast Guard approved PFD. If it was you or me there's no way we walk out of that without a citation.
I hadn't been aware that the passenger was his cousin either.
That's a very practical choice of car. Sporty yet not flashy. An aftermarket supercharger would make it bad ass.
Glad he's ok. Nothing to see here, appartently. Squeaky clean reputation still in tact.
It was 4am for God's sake. He shouldn't have been driving because he was impaired due to lack of sleep. That's a dangerous thing and he knows he could have killed hm self and his cousin. That's enough.
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To assume he fell asleep. Something bad happened.
And how do you know he was tired?? Everyone assumes that people who are driving at 4 AM are automatically tired? So anytime I'm on the freeway late at night, should I just be on high alert that people are passing out left and right?