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2023 Big Ten Schedule React Comment Count

Seth October 26th, 2022 at 12:21 PM

The Big Ten finally released its retooled schedule for next year. Here's the whole conference (click to big):

schedule

via Big Ten

And here's ours vs the old one:

Date NEW WAS
September 2 East Carolina East Carolina
September 9 UNLV UNLV
September 16 Bowling Green Bowling Green
September 23 Rutgers at Minnesota
September 30 at Nebraska Bye
October 7 at Minnesota  (at) Michigan State
October 14 Indiana  at Nebraska
October 21 at Michigan State  Purdue
October 28 Bye at Maryland
November 4 Purdue at Penn State
November 11 at Penn State Rutgers
November 18 at Maryland (vs) Indiana
November 25 Ohio State Ohio State

Note that on the old-old schedule MSU was at home and IU on the road, as this was announced before they fixed the home-road deal in 2020. For months before Michigan took the old schedule down I was getting board posts from people who thought they were going back to MSU being at home the same years as OSU.

Discuss. Not much to. Michigan's game at Penn State got pushed back a week while Ohio State gets home games against MSU and Minnesota in the weeks before The Game. MSU got their bye week moved up to two weeks before Michigan, with Rutgers in the way. Michigan's bye got moved to late October, the week after MSU. Getting Rutgers at the top of the year and the late-November version of Maryland is nice.

The opening week Big Ten games are Nebraska at Minnesota (Thursday night), IU-OSU, and Rutgers-Northwestern.

[After the JUMP: weak? why?]

Strong schedule? Weak schedule? Schedule?

Michigan's crossover games remain at Nebraska, at Minnesota, and vs Purdue. OSU's, for the record, are at Purdue, at Wisconsin, and vs Minnesota. Purdue and Minnesota are welcome to lodge their complaints with any Big Ten East team. With that Purdue game, a trip to Penn State, and Ohio State in November they get another good ramp-up, but once again might not be able to make the playoffs with one loss, pending a few teams along the way getting themselves ranked.

The one thing this schedule still lacks is a marquee non-conference opponent. A list of Power 5 matchups around the league:

  • Ohio State at Notre Dame (9/23)
  • Illinois at Kansas (9/9)
  • El-Assico: Iowa at Iowa State (9/9)
  • Minnesota at North Carolina (9/16)
  • Nebraska at Colorado (9/9)
  • Northwestern at Duke (9/16)
  • Purdue at Virginia Tech (9/9)
  • Purdue vs Syracuse (9/16 and holy hell Purdue)
  • Wisconsin at Washington State (9/9)<---error in the graphic.
  • Indiana vs Louisville at Lucas Oil Stadium (9/16)
  • Maryland vs Virginia (9/16)
  • Michigan State vs Washington (9/16)
  • Penn State vs West Virginia (9/2)
  • Rutgers vs Virginia Tech (9/16)

Michigan is the only Big Ten that doesn't play a Power 5 opponent outside the conference. The game at UCLA was scheduled for 9/2 but that was canceled and replaced with ECU.

Big Noon November?

A lot could change but at first glance all of Michigan's November games are likely to get the most ratings (Maryland performs well). It's possible that Illinois vs Minnesota is for the Big Ten West lead when Michigan plays Purdue, but with Michigan's home slate up to that point you'd imagine Fox would be itching to get to Ann Arbor. The one at Penn State is up against OSU at MSU. The Game is a gimme.

Is this because we're adding UCLA and USC?

No, this is a continuation of the fussing they did last year. They're still trying to figure out how to put the 2024+ seasons together.

Why are we doing this then?

The simple version is State screwed themselves when they screwed Michigan in 2014, and the Big Ten used the 2020 season to un-screw the situation but needed to reconfigure dates to deal with the fallout.

The mess was created in 2014, when Maryland and Rutgers joined. Michigan State used the opportunity to request the UM-MSU home-road years be flipped, giving State two home games in a row in 2013 and 2014. This accomplished a secondary goal of unbalancing Michigan's even/odd year home schedules, as MSU joined Ohio State (and at the time Notre Dame) on Michigan's odd year home slate. Indiana's series with both Michigan schools was swapped to make this happen. Via John U. Bacon in his book Endzone, the unpopularity of Dave Brandon among his fellow ADs was a contributing factor to the rest of the Big Ten going along with the plan. Only Indiana, who would now be getting Michigan and Ohio State at home on the same years, stood with Michigan against the plan.

This created the same problem for Michigan State, however. The Spartans were keen on moving it back but not if it meant Michigan got to host the extra home game. That changed with COVID, since State would be set to blow its hosting year on an empty stadium in 2020. MSU was down since it rescued a home game for them. Michigan was down because it cleaned up the scheduling imbalance.

This however had some cascading issues—like Michigan getting just one home game from 9/16 to 11/11—in future schedules, so the conference had to start moving things around, and that led to other schools requesting changes. The retooled 2021 and 2022 schedules were both announced late (if you have a 2021 edition of Hail to the Victors you may notice the opponents are out of order), and the Big Ten intended to settle long-term matters starting in 2023.

However with USC and UCLA joining the conference in 2024, the 2023 season is now just a one-off, and new considerations came into play, mostly due to the curtailing of the Big Ten's locked rivals series. You will note Michigan was locked in with Wisconsin every year from 2016 to 2021. Starting with the 2022 rotation Ohio State was supposed to take their turn playing Wisconsin every season while Illinois rotated off their radars (great timing). The guess is they're going to blow the whole thing up again in 2024.

Comments

FreddieMercuryHayes

October 26th, 2022 at 12:41 PM ^

There's a lot to discuss.  Most notably that in the old schedule my kids had off school the Friday before the Maryland game so I was going to head over the DC and take them.  Now that game is moved so we're screwed.  Why can't the big ten consult me before making scheduling changes like that?  Fuck them.  

Blue Vet

October 26th, 2022 at 12:43 PM ^

It may be heresy—probably is heresy—but the complications of fair / balanced scheduling make me open to the idea of dropping Staee as an annual game.  

camblue

October 26th, 2022 at 1:33 PM ^

Surprised this is getting downvoted so much (and especially surprised at the reply above calling Purdue (a Big Ten founding member) a "random" school getting upvoted). The fact is sparty has way more to gain playing us than we do them and we are their super bowl while they are decidedly not ours. If we instead played sparty in even years and Minnesota in odd years that'd be great. Also wouldn't mind them being in the opposite division and potentially meeting them in the title game in years we didn't play them.

Ali G Bomaye

October 26th, 2022 at 2:28 PM ^

I included Purdue only to indicate that I'm not just talking about the new B1G arrivals, although they are of course at the priority chain. For me, gametime excitement goes OSU > MSU, ND > PSU or any nonconference contender > traditional B1G teams like Purdue > Maryland, Rutger, Nebraska > G5 fodder.

Kilgore Trout

October 26th, 2022 at 1:03 PM ^

I'm curious about the locations of the Minnesota and Purdue games on the "old" schedule The original 2020 schedule was supposed to be at Minnesota and home for Purdue before all of the COVID changes, so those should have been flipped in 2023. If I'm remembering correctly, all of these were announced in 2018. I guess long way of saying, I think the location of Minnesota and Purdue in the "new" schedule is a change from the original 2023 schedule to account for the fact that Purdue hasn't been to Ann Arbor since 2011. 

NittanyFan

October 26th, 2022 at 1:22 PM ^

The "old" 2023 schedule, released in 2018, had U-M hosting Purdue and at Minnesota.  So the Purdue/Minnesota sites being the same in 2020 & 2023 was planned even before COVID.

FWIW, none of the "new" 21 cross-divisional games are different (in terms of opponent and/or site) versus the "old" 2023 schedule.

https://bigten.org/documents/2018/8/29//FUTURE_FOOTBALL_SCHEDULES_2022_25.pdf?id=6057

BTB grad

October 26th, 2022 at 2:19 PM ^

Do you think this is a temporary thing for 2022 & 2023 to make sure they had 7 home games based on the original known schedule at the time? With a 12 team playoff on the horizon (which allows you 1-2 losses) and ticket prices continuing to rise, scheduling all cupcakes is no longer acceptable. We’ve got marquee games scheduled from 2024-2028 but we’re @UT in 2024 and @OU in 2025 before getting both teams at home in 2026 & 2027 and then heading to Seattle in 2028 to make up the 2020 cancellation; I’m worried about one of those series getting cancelled because there’s a chance you only have 6 home games in either 2024, 2025, and/or 2028.

MMBbones

October 26th, 2022 at 1:10 PM ^

What? Am I reading this correctly? Does Indiana get a "bye" before playing M?

My anger knows no bounds.  I guess it's nice that no one else does. Of course, a Penn State bye would have been advantageous, based on past practice...

Paps

October 26th, 2022 at 1:17 PM ^

I realllyyy hate that we dropped UCLA this year and next year. I feel like when this was announced people celebrated it, because the easiest path to the playoff was not losing an OOC game, just simply scheduling a cupcake. 

Maybe I am wrong, but it feels like the the conventional thought on this with regards to the committee has swung back the other direction, where playing a tough OOC is rewarded and a loss to a good team in that scenario being overlooked. (I guess I am basing this off of scenarios I have seen pitting a hypothetical 11-1 Michigan (with a loss to OSU) against other 11-1 teams with a similarly "good" loss, and the needle going to those teams because of good OOC scheduling. 

It would have been nice to replace the UCLA game with someone like a BYU or something, just to provide a little more oomph to the schedule. Oh well. 

ehatch

October 26th, 2022 at 2:25 PM ^

I think all those 1-loss comparisons are to Conference Champions [Oregon/USC, TCU, Clemson]. Michigan would not be a conference champ (unless we lose to Illinois and beat OSU) and would miss the playoff because of that. Really we are only talking about a 1-loss Tennessee or Alabama --which has more to do with "is Alabama" or "beat Alabama" than any SOS argument. 

98xj

October 26th, 2022 at 1:28 PM ^

Dave Revsine mentioned (on the Big Ten Today show) that one of today's announced 25 Nov 2023 games will be moved to Friday 24 Nov to join Iowa@Neb. .....Maybe Wis@Minn?

bronxblue

October 26th, 2022 at 1:29 PM ^

I'd like UM to play a better OOC team because those are generally more interesting than beating up on G5 teams (even good G5 teams like ECU) but it also feels like people are overrating the chances of a 1-loss Michigan being kept out of the playoffs.  What's hurting UM right now is that teams like Iowa and MSU went from preseason ranked squads to hot garbage, which drags down the conference and UM's overall strength of schedule.  

Hell, this year Tennessee needed OT to beat 4-3, 49th-to-SP+ Pitt.  OSU struggled to beat 4-3, 46th-to-SP+ ND at home.  Coming into the year UCLA was 36th to SP+ and are mostly pulling off this early-season run because they are really old (they have a ton of seniors+ in their starting lineup) and based on recruiting and transfers my guess is next year they're going to be bad.  Is that still a "P5 win"?  Sure, but Michigan not getting into the playoff with a loss this year or next will rely way more on the overall quality of the Big 10 than who they played in September.