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11/17/2018 - 1:28pm The MD v OSU game is going…

The MD v OSU game is going to be a 52-49 game and the Sparty v Nebraska is a typical Sparty sludge fest

11/17/2018 - 1:20pm I don’t give a damn about…

I don’t give a damn about any jinx I am LMAO about Maryland rolling on Bucknut

11/16/2018 - 3:47pm As much as I would LOVE to…

As much as I would LOVE to see 'Cuse upset ND, I don't see it happening.

 

Simply put, "Cuse D ranks 97th in Total D (I know not a very representative stat), just ahead of.....

SMU

 

ND offense will roll in this game (check weather  to make sure nothing crazy going on there..... 45 and sunny, wind only 7 MPH in NY tomorrow)

Watched Cuse play WMU in the season opener, simply put, no defense at all......

ND wins this one handily.......42-17 as Kelly tries to put some style points on this game to beat a "ranked" team

11/13/2018 - 11:09pm Bingo. 

Bingo. 

11/13/2018 - 9:59pm True, but a Golden Domer…

True, but a Golden Domer will tell you that they beat Michigan with their BACK UP QB.  It goes both ways.....

And a Golden Domer will also state they are a very different team with Cook as their QB now.

Its just not that crystal clear.

Is completely clear cut / slam dunk with a 1 loss ND? ...... Not really

Will Michigan win out....yes

Will Michigan deserve to be in the CFP? ..... yes

Do I believe Michigan deserves to be in the CFP over a 1 loss ND? ..... yes

11/13/2018 - 9:49pm OK, I guess my message is…

OK, I guess my message is not clear.  I am trying to say is, in terms of getting into the playoffs, it is better for ND to win out.  Personally I could care less about the seeding.  If your in, you have a chance.  But while NBC was stating ND is out, tonight ESPN started to debate that very topic.  That is all I am saying, it will not be a slam dunk that ND is automatically out if they lose a game, as most people want to believe.

It would just be a data point that would work against Michigan cause ND can always say, we won the head to head.  Herbie just went into great detail explaining how the head to head is only used as a last data point to determine a pecking order between two teams "If they are perceived to be close."  And as much as I love how Michigan is playing right now, there is not that much difference between Michigan and ND. (For the record, I believe that Michigan has a better resume).  But by how much?  Enough to override the head to head loss??????  Maybe?  Most likely?

I certainly do not want it to come down to that.  I would prefer that Bama and ND win out, then Michigan gets in for sure when they win out.  Hopefully that clarifies what I am trying to say.

11/13/2018 - 7:25pm Just watching ESPN and the…

Just watching ESPN and the ranking and they just started debating.  What "if" ND stumbles?  And the response was split.  All I am saying is that ND winning out is better for us than a 1 loss ND.  While most agreed that Michigan is playing better, ND holds the ultimate trump card by simply stating they beat Michigan. 

And as Jesse just noted, it would be "We beat Michigan with our BACK UP QB."

While I personally believe Michigan gets in, to me it is just not a slam dunk as most people believe it would be.

Again, best case scenario for Michigan.

1) Win out.

2) Bama wins out

3) ND wins out

After that it doesn't matter.  If 2 or 3 do not happen, then there will be debate and ballsey feeling notion of "Well, who is playing better?"

11/13/2018 - 7:04pm Essentially yes.  This…

Essentially yes.  This thread is already debating about Michigan or ND if ND is undefeated.  I am just saying that a 1 loss ND does not automatically eliminate them.  The loss would depend on how that games goes.  If they get punked by 'Cuse, then its a non issue, ND gets tossed aside like Ohio State.  Ugly loss = elimination....

But if it is a very competitive loss to Cuse.  I just feel that they will not be automatically out of it like most believe because they can say that they beat Michigan.  And like it or not, that will still carry weight with the committee.

To me the cleanest path to the playoffs is for Bama AND ND to win out.  I will have no problem stacking up Michigan resume against anyone else with 1 loss (even if Clemson loses) outside of a 1 loss Bama.  So in this scenario, an undefeated Bama gets the #1 seed, ND gets the #2 seed, Michigan would have the #3rd seed and Clemson/Oklahoma can debate forever on who the 4th seed will be.

 

11/13/2018 - 6:43pm No.  No.  No.  No....

If…

No.  No.  No.  No....

If you think the weight of a head to head competition makes things interesting now.  Have ND lose a game and finish with one loss.  All the whining and crying you will hear is the "ND is a 1 loss team and STILL has a head to head win over Michigan."

Im just saying the LAST THING any Michigan fan wants is a 1 loss ND team and the final selection to come down for the 3rd/4th spot and these are the teams that will be in the bucket:

Michigan

Oklahoma

ND

The plain and simple fact is that ND can state they are the ONLY team in that group with a win directly over anyone else.  And that will carry significant weight.

As tough as it is to say this, we want ND, just like Bama, to win out.  Leave no debate.

Win out, and have ND and Bama win out and we are in.

11/13/2018 - 6:40pm No.  No.  No.  No....

If…

No.  No.  No.  No....

If you think the weight of a head to head competition makes things interesting now.  Have ND lose a game and finish with one loss.  All the whining and crying you will hear is the "ND is a 1 loss team and STILL has a head to head win over Michigan."

Im just saying the LAST THING any Michigan fan wants is a 1 loss ND team and the final selection to come down for the 3rd/4th spot and these are the teams that will be in the bucket:

Michigan

Oklahoma

ND

The plain and simple fact is that ND can state they are the ONLY team in that group with a win directly over anyone else.  And that will carry significant weight.

As tough as it is to say this, we want ND, just like Bama, to win out.  Leave no debate.

Win out, and have ND and Bama win out and we are in.

11/05/2018 - 10:44am Did the national pundits…

Did the national pundits care back when Henne, Hart, and Long could barely play due to injuries?  NO

Did they care that Gardner and Shoelaces were hurt for The Game? NO and NO

Did they care that O'Korn was playing because Speight and Peters were hurt? NO and NO

OSU can burn to the ground, there has been FAR too many instances where we have been short handed in the Game.  

I want everyone good to go, I want OSU to lose, and I want to curb stomp them right there in front of their fans.

No one will give a damn how you won a Championship, there will be no '*', no exception clauses in the history books.

Just WIN DAMNIT!

11/01/2018 - 10:38pm While I am certain now that…

While I am certain now that UCF is a fake 10 ten team.  It is mind blowing to see they have scored 6 touchdowns while only having the ball for just over 15 minutes....

But that Defense, woof..... 562 yards given up, 34 points in 3 quarters, that's just not good.........

10/31/2018 - 3:05am I do think that a loss to…

I do think that a loss to LSU would be more damaging Bama cause they will not will their division, play in the SEC championship game and obviously not be a league champ.

To me, the more dangerous scenario is for Bama to go undefeated and lose a close game to Georgia (or Kentucky.....WOW thats a crazy thought) in the SEC title game.

You can't assume that LSU would win out.  How about this scenario, LSU wins this weekend but loses to Georgia in the SEC title game.  There is no way the committee could justify taking Bama over a team they lost to (LSU) nor a conference champion (1 loss Michigan / Georgia / Oklahoma / WSU).  And the same thing can be said for a 2 loss LSU.

Lots of crazy possibilities left to play out.  Most importantly, Michigan needs to take care of their own business first.  Win out and see what happens from there......

10/30/2018 - 12:20pm Just remember, I believe it…

Just remember, I believe it is some crazy like over half the teams that get listed in the initial CFP standings never actually make it there.  Kinda like hanging a HUGE BULLSEYE on them that every other team shoots for to make their season.

Michigan starts out at 5 and I will be consistent.

 

Best case for us, Bama, ND, Clemson, and us all win out.  The odds of that actually happening, not good.  I listed the other 3 teams in order of who would possibly bump Michigan, if they are the only ones to lose.

Bama - Too much creed, been looking good all season, can point to a tough in-conference schedule (particularly if they lose the SEC Title game)

ND - I am risk averse here.  Certainly any ND loss from here on out will not look good, but I have to feel they still have a powerful trump card in the debate by simply saying, "We beat them."  Hard to causally dismiss this.

Clemson - Again, image and recent history (contrary to the committees statements) would sway in a debate.  But any loss from here on out would not look good for them, period, Michigan's loss is almost the 'best' loss to have outside of anyone that could play Bama close.

Worst case, Clemson wins out, ND wins out, Oklahoma wins out including a drubbing of Texas in a rematch, Washington State wins out, and Georgia wins out edging Bama in the SEC title game.  In this scenario, Clemson, ND, and Georgia all get the first 3 spots and Michigan is put into a bucket with Bama, Oklahoma, and Wassu for the final spot.

While I still believe Michigan gets in, I just think that there would be plenty of debate about it.

10/29/2018 - 11:47am This is where "star gazing"…

This is where "star gazing" get annoying.  Your only definition of "success" is getting 5*/4*?  While that really looks nice on the internet and paper. I am far more interested is who the coaches pick and bring in and the play on the field.

Look, there is usually 4-7 5* OT every recruiting year (2019 - 7; 2018 - 4; 2017 - 6 according to 247), very few teams are going to have "success" based upon your opinion.

I'll bank on Warinner's coaching and eye for talent since "star gazing" is such a small window to shoot for.  

It would be interesting to breakdown the number of OL drafted over the past 10 years and how many of them are actually 5*.  Wisconsin alone busts the whole "OH GOD we didn't get a 5* or high 4*, everybody PANIC NOW!!!!!" meme that gets very tiring to read over and over again.

Don Brown and Ed Warinner are coaches, they are very good at what they do.  They will not get every kid they call upon, but I will trust them that they will select kids who have the potential / talent to succeed.

A quick look at our depth chart by class easily shows that for the first time since the Carr era, we are stacking the pipeline with kids.  This helps in the development and process of turning a HS talent into a college level O Lineman.

10/28/2018 - 12:20pm You have not been paying…

You have not been paying attention to Chase's repeated comments.  This is Michigan's Revenge Tour and Penn State is ABSOLUTELY front and center on their list.

It is very good thing the Chase has added a Slogan Tag Line (#RevengeTour2018) for this season.  It focuses the team on their mission and helps prepare them for this game.

If there is any game that someone should even remotely worry about is @Indiana (although I expect a dull workmanship game where they grind them into dust).

This team will be ready this Saturday.  Don Brown will be able to sleep after this game (then again maybe not cause he knows there is 1 more stop on the Revenge Tour).

10/27/2018 - 9:22pm So I just had to go look and…

So I just had to go look and it would not favor Iowa. 

NW has played:

Michigan

Michigan St

Rutgers

so I initially thought Oh crap, Rutgers. Then I looked up Wisconsin. They have/had

Michigan

Penn St

Rutgers

Thwn I looked up Iowa, their screwed. They have / had

Maryland

Indiana

Penn State

 

So Iowa would be eliminated and NW heads to Indy with the head to head win over Wisconsin. 

10/26/2018 - 3:14pm Since we will be playing the…

Since we will be playing the Boilermakers in the Big Ten Championship game, I want them to win out.

A 9-3 Purdue team, especially as the media darlings, will be a perfect match up for Michigan. 

And when we steamroll them in the game cause:

A) Don Brown, nuff said

B) Power running game

C) Patterson to a TRIO of big time receiver (Black, DPJ, Collins) off of play action

Michigan resume will be complete and a CFP berth will be handed out to them regardless of what else happens.

Win out, everything else will take care of itself.

10/25/2018 - 3:57pm Since it will be Purdue, we…

Since it will be Purdue, we wont have to worry about that......

10/24/2018 - 3:42pm Not likely going to happen…

Not likely going to happen..... Why?

 

Under your scenario, the ACC gets one spot, ND took the second.  IF your scenario played out, that would mean only 2 of the Power 5 conferences got into the playoffs.

No way the powers to be of the other 3 conferences (Big Ten, Big 12, and PAC10) would sign off on allowing and 2nd SEC team in over their Conference Champion.

At the end of the day, as long as ND is in play, there is no way any conference gets 2 teams in.  They real chaos would start if no one is undefeated......

10/24/2018 - 10:30am I respect your opinion and…

I respect your opinion and input on this board, but you are looking too deep into a rock on this one.  The complete sentence is that.... HE (Gary) chose to practice and rehab, BUT practice is too intense.

It does not give any indication the coaching staff 'forced' Gary to practice.  They allowed him to decide his own fate.

Gary gave it a try for a few weeks, then decided to follow the Medical Staff recommendation of complete rest (4-6 week).  Good for him, and there has been ZERO evidence / rumors / hidden messages from the coaching staff is dissatisfied with Gary's decision.

Rest up Gary, plenty of big games await your return....Columbus, Big Ten Championship, and CFP

10/24/2018 - 9:17am What this is telling me is…

What this is telling me is that Quinn is connected, active, and will not rest until he can put together a roster that can compete for a ..........

 

Nah, still can't say it, too many DECADES of disappointment to get overly excited, but it certainly good to have a GM that appears to somewhat get it as to what it takes....

10/23/2018 - 10:47pm There is plenty you stated…

There is plenty you stated that I agree with, but I truly believe that Mork benefited from other circumstances.

As the MODS outline, Mork's rise and reign concurred with these other factors:

1) 7 years span of the worst Michigan football history in the last 60 years

2) PSU being exposed for the horrid program it is and paying the price for it

3) Tressel "co-operating" with Mork.  The rumor I heard was that Tressel tipped Mork off on Bell after he turned him down.

4) Convenient schedules - Claiming a Big Ten Title without having to play OSU

None of these factors are in his favor now and add into it the programs of Minny, Nebraska, Purdue, and NW it is more of a challenge.  

Finally, the cover is starting to be pulled back and MSU themselves are being exposed for the type of program they are.

Bottom line, their margin of error has shrunk down to the slimmest levels,  Could he pull of a "miracle" year, sure but not likely.  And with another medicore season staring him right in his face, recruiting will only get harder. As well as it will be easy to start mentioning his age, how much longer will he be coaching (I hope for quite some time still).

I could almost see him quit before we even up his record against Michigan.  The LAST thing he would want is that on his legacy

10/22/2018 - 11:46pm You nailed it here 1.8. …

You nailed it here 1.8.  THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT JH is referring to.  Mork invited this confrontation, egged it on and did nothing to try and prevent it.  That's why he is calling it Bush League, that's why JH is pissed and that is why he won't let it go.....

And to everyone else, spare me with the BS of, they asked us to move.  That would go over like a wet fart in church.....

It was funny tonight on BTN Football & Beyond.  Dave Wannstedt laughed about this saying this is nothing compared to the stuff that went on in Miami / FSU games and I would attend to agree....

10/22/2018 - 11:39pm I was reading an article…

I was reading an article from SB Nation that noted the "Team Walk" is from some restaurant where they have their team breakfast. It is only a 1/2 from the stadium, but the odd part is that day they decided to take a longer route AND put their helmets on.

There is no 2 minutes late or 10 minutes.  It is just about the fact that Michigan players are allowed to start warming up on their half of the field at 10:00AM.  It was 10:00 AM and a few were out there.  Sparty was not and decided to start their walk on 10:02AM.

Suck it Mork.  Harbaugh's main point is that you saw the Michigan players warming up, yet you still "order" your team to do it's march.

And you were just 3-5 yards away as the scuffle started AND YOU DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO STOP IT.  Just walked your grumpy old right on by.

Best line I heard about this....

"I have seen Bo tear apart a head set....

I have seen Woody tear apart a down marker...

I have seen Saban, Carroll, Meyer, Harbaugh, Kelly blow up and chew a ref out....

But all of them have always pulled their players away from a confrontation....

Mork, you invited it, you watched it, and you did noting to prevent it....."

10/22/2018 - 5:16pm No playmakers

No OL depth …

No playmakers

No OL depth (we have witnessed this for several years and we are just starting to crawl out of it)

Average QB play

No steller defense.....

Mediocrity is settling in at East Landfill and their is no rainbow or pot of gold in sight to save them....

10/22/2018 - 5:11pm And this is EXACTLY what I…

And this is EXACTLY what I want Sparty to think, because while Mork is 8-4 today, I am strongly believing that he will get to 10 losses before he gets to 10 wins against us, if he stayed that long.

Look, Mork is 6-1 against RR and Hoke.  He is now 2-3 against a competent coach and everyone knows that one of those 2 wins was by the craziest ending ever.  That means his team has been outplayed and out coached 4/5 times.  And with JMFH hanging around, I'll take my 4/5 chances going forward. 

10/22/2018 - 5:05pm Particularly, Purdue,…

Particularly, Purdue, Nebraska, and OSU.  They all throw the ball well.  Meyer just might have Haskins throw 70 times against Sparty cause he'll get 600 passing.

Maryland can't throw so Sparty my eek out that game.  Aside from that, they will have their work cut out for them.  With no offense to keep up with the High Powered Offense of the Opponents, they will get worn down, drive after drive, quarter after quarter, game after game.....

10/22/2018 - 4:59pm I have been a Purdue…

I have been a Purdue believer for a couple of weeks now (I know, this is AFTER they beat OSU), but I will go on record and say that I believe they win the West. 

I just don't see anyone else in the West that is enough of a complete team, all the teams are flawed.  It is just a matter of how flawed....

And Purdue Offense is the best unit of the teams in the West.  They do get Iowa and Wisconsin at home.  I will feel really good once they drop a bomb on Mork and Sparty this weekend (weather looks good and Sparty's Pass D against Brohm....LMAO).

As for the Big Ten Championship Game, it really doesn't matter.  As I noted, I believe all the West teams are flawed:

Wisconsin's D

Iowa's O

Purdue D

NW....period

And when I say flawed, I mean they are not championship caliber level.

Michigan is rounding in to that complete team.  Of course we have the #1 D, and I expect the Offense to continue to improve.  Particularly with the CCG indoors, no goofy weather, no bad field conditions.

As you might tell with my heavy lean to Purdue, Moore is a DUDE, plain and simple.

In the end, Michigan wins out and gets in the CFP.  To me, we would prefer ND to win out.  While a loss might be to a lesser team, I do not want the discussion to come down to, hey we beat them head to head.  That is just a huge factor to overcome (I would have to be-grudgingly accept that no matter how much I would love to spin the story).  

Honestly, anyone else can lose (except ND unless they loss twice), the more the merrier, puts us in a better position overall.

One game at a time, don't care what their record is, what their ranking is, what the conditions are.  Just keep winning.....

 

10/22/2018 - 9:53am Another HUGE missed…

Another HUGE missed opportunity was on the very first drive. On 3rd and 3 had Shea pulled the ball he had a escorted walk in for the TD. McKeon reads the DE correctly as he crashed down and the safety was flying up to the LOS. There was literally no one on that half of the field for McKeon yo block. He could have eacorted Shea all the way to the end zone. That would have been a huge punch to the gut of Sparty in the opening drive. 

But this is good cause that play will still be there as we are getting better at running the ball. Undisciplined Defenses (Hello OSU) will give up huge chunk plays on that play alone. 

Contineous improvement. That’s the focus right now. 

10/20/2018 - 9:57pm Late to say it now but for a…

Late to say it now but for a couple of weeks now I’ve been saying that Purdue will win the West Division. And tonight has only cemented this. Their D is eh, but the O is really rolling

10/17/2018 - 9:53am You got it.  The Krulls have…

You got it.  The Krulls have invaded Earth and Mork is one of them.  We need Captain Marvel to expose him!

10/16/2018 - 1:39pm Space Coyote answered most…

Space Coyote answered most of the points but a subtle one is the DOD of the throw. If McKeon goes to the flat, Patterson shoulders are nicely squareded up to make an easy throw. If McKeon turns up field, then Patterson has the turn his shoulders more to make the throw as well as exposing himself  if the defender decides to go all out on the QB. 

Very little extra benefit by turning the route up field. Everything is already accomplished with the flat route. TE, open field, night one within 20 yards of him. 

10/14/2018 - 1:27pm Michigan is position now…

Michigan is position now that they control their own destiny. 

Win out and they are in the CFP (I am fully aware there are plenty of challenging games left on the schedule). 

With a championship caliber defense, a play maker at QB, and an offense that is gelling this certainly heading in the right direction. 

To me Alabama AND ND winning out would be the ideal backdrop scenario. Bama’ would knock out Georgia and LSU and we clear out OSU. That would leave a CFP of Bama, Clemson, ND, and us. 

Of course college football being that it is, that will most likely NOT happen. 

10/10/2018 - 9:47am Yeah, I watched the PSU game…

Yeah, I watched the PSU game and the BTN highlights gushing over haskins rolling up big numbers on inferior competition.

To me, here is the money stats about Haskins (From the PFF article).....

He sees a significant drop in passer rating from that 147.2 mark all the way down to 46.9 when pressured, seeing the biggest dropoff in passer rating from a clean pocket to under pressure.

Now since OSU managed to get through PSU with a win, good for them.  He looks great when he able to stand in the pocket, have a sandwhich, and throw to anyone (usually a crossing route / slant/ out route).  The highlights will show is 1 or 2 deeps throws cause they are flashy TV snippets.  But as PFF has recorded, the majority of his throws are short and your receivers gain large chunks of YAC.

Now when pressured (just like every other QB in the history of football), he panics and chucks it.  Now if only there was another defense on his schedule that plays pressure D with great pass coverage........

09/30/2018 - 11:25am Great gutsy win.

Play…

Great gutsy win.

Play calling.....  Yes they won the but when you run Higdon 7 STRAIGHT times up the middle in the 4th quarter on 1st down and each run only gains 1 yard (yes 7 carries for 7 yards).  You are only making life more difficult for yourself.

And Klatt even pointed out that is because the SS McGee was repeatedly flying up to the line of scrimmage.  Just 1 PA and Gentry is running scot free in the seam.  And if you don't want to throw it, the any other run, show some creativity....... there has to be a better plan than  7 carries for 7 yards on runs.......

09/25/2018 - 2:19pm So Bill’s stats say that we…

So Bill’s stats say that we are favored in every game except for the last one. YET to write his narrative he glosses over those data points  

From an analytical perspective I would throw this article out for its inaccuracies. 

BUT, I do agree with his sentiment. Same sentiments that was expressed on BTN studio last night. Ironically, the one analyst that is most bullish on us is Jim Laurinaitis....

09/21/2018 - 11:54pm Now the real Illini team is…

Now the real Illini team is showing up. PSU is still not that good. 

09/21/2018 - 11:45pm Just took another shot …

Just took another shot (McSorley) and came up shaking his head like he was shaking out some cob webs...,

09/21/2018 - 11:26pm Let’s see if I can make it…

image.jpgLet’s see if I can make it work....

09/21/2018 - 11:21pm Sorry. Got too excited after…

Sorry. Got too excited after watching that “celebration” from those 2 young ladies....

09/21/2018 - 11:19pm Seriously. PSU defense is…

Seriously. PSU defense is terrible. Run D gets gashed. Soft coverage in pass D. 

They are not good at all

09/21/2018 - 11:16pm I’m a little fired up now…

I’m a little fired up now.....

09/21/2018 - 11:15pm Did anyone else see the 2…

Did anyone else see the 2 hot Illini chicks kiss on TV. 

WOW. 

 

Oh Yeah. Illini TD

09/21/2018 - 10:52pm How bad is the officiating?…

How bad is the officiating? In the SC game. The SC corner had a fist full of the WR jersey AND YANKS it back. No call. 

Yet in the PSU game. The Illini swipes at the PSU WR arm misses and the ball lands 6 yards beyond. PI call....

so damn inconsistent.....

09/21/2018 - 10:43pm This is interesting. Could…

This is interesting. Could PSU be over rated?????

hmmmmmm could be.....

09/21/2018 - 10:32pm PSU Run defense is trash. …

PSU Run defense is trash.  If Illini can tear them up .....

09/21/2018 - 10:08pm Pending on ones point of…

Pending on ones point of view. I think OSU blasts Penn State next week but PSU will score some points. It’ll be something like 49-31. 

09/21/2018 - 10:03pm Just saw another complete BS…

Just saw another complete BS Defensive PI called on Illini. If refs are going to start getting ticky tacky on PI. This will be a long season

09/19/2018 - 9:11pm I have a bad feeling that as…

I have a bad feeling that as this season wears on that ND game is going to piss me off more and more. I can see that by the end of the season I am going to be saying to myself “How in the F*** did we lose to those guys!”