Ole Miss Fighting Transfers

Submitted by umbig11 on

I thought I would throw this out there before April Fools Day. That way there is no confusion. Ole Miss will be fighting the "immediate eligibility" of those that are requesting transfers. Yes, that means Shea Patterson. Let's just say Ole Miss came out firing with their rebuttal to the NCAA. They are not going to admit any wrong doing or grant approvals for the players in question. 

Michigan could have been more aggressive and used more documentation that was made available to them from Shea's attorney. Furthermore, Michigan may submit additional documentation if they can (not guaranteed). They are going to need it. Shea's attorney is far less optimistic than he was a week ago. Hence the statement, he is referring all future inquiries to Michigan's David Ablauf. For the first time in weeks, I am starting to think this going to be a 50/50 decision at best.

Attorney's advising Michigan are adamant that they miscalculated the Ole Miss response. Brace yourselves for the worst and pray for the best. We know what the right thing to do is, but we are now dealing with a corrupt instituition (Mississippi) and an organization (NCAA) with a less than stellar track record in making the right decisions!

killerseafood3

March 31st, 2018 at 3:56 PM ^

This is disgusting on numerous levels. I guess I’m not surprised Ole Miss is continuing to be just a sham of a college and complete and utter assholes, but I am surprised UM didn’t take these guys to the woodshed with any and all information possible. Were they assuming Ole Miss would back down?

LDNfan

March 31st, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^

Yes..I just don't see how UM would give those dumb fucks any breathing room. Why leave anything out at all. Why assume OM would do the sensible thing when they've shown zero sense whatsoever. 

Just don't get it..with all that is riding on this decision how could UM be caught by surprise? Maybe UM is just pretending to be surprised to build up the drama...which, of course, is silly but not quite as silly as assuming OM would do the right thing. 

cobra14

March 31st, 2018 at 3:56 PM ^

So let me get this straight Michigan could of used more documentation that was made available but didn’t? Why would anyone miscalculate a southern school admitting wrong or fighting this when it comes to football? Is it because Michigan wouldn’t do it if it was reversed? If this is true, can someone explain why Michigan employs so many people in the football department?

Naked Bootlegger

March 31st, 2018 at 3:56 PM ^

That's it.  Time to invade Oxford and burn that football program to the ground.  

WHO"S WITH ME?!

/Crickets chirping

OK - this invasion can wait until after the hoops game tonight.

Barn Animal

March 31st, 2018 at 3:57 PM ^

But why would Michigan hold back documents that would help their case against Ole Miss? I can’t imagine they would have hurt had Ole Miss said nothing instead of fighting it.

MgoHillbilly

March 31st, 2018 at 4:02 PM ^

If our o-line is fixed (which I expect warriner to do), this may not be a big deal. That said, it would be nice to get the transfer thing resolved asap so we know who the hell should be getting most of the snaps with the ones during spring practice.

LabattsBleu

March 31st, 2018 at 3:59 PM ^

LOL... no one expected OleMiss to do the right thing did they?

Cheated their way into winning when they couldn't compete at an honest level, zero surprise they would continue to do things the wrong way and screw over their former players in order to protect themselves.

Stay Classy OleMiss... Hope NCAA has the balls to put the death penalty to your program

wildbackdunesman

March 31st, 2018 at 3:58 PM ^

Of course Mississippi does what is worst for the kids just like the satellite camps.  I hope their program gets nuked by the NCAA - oh wait, they have SEC immunity.

On the plus side, wasn't the NCAA considering changing the transfer rules to make it immediate eligbility when a coach is fired or NCAA sanctions?

It seems as if the NCAA should lean in Shea's favor if they truly want that rule established.

MGoArchive

March 31st, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^

wasn't this presented a 'bulletproof' case and had hundreds of pages of documentation? Why the fuck did he not include EVERYTHING?

This fucking attorney is an idiot. Doesn't submit the paperwork to the NCAA, sends it to Ole Miss, who doesn't do shit, which causes a delay of nearly two weeks, and then doesn't fucking submit everything.

Holy shit, WHAT THE FUCK.

Um1994

March 31st, 2018 at 4:13 PM ^

I think you may have your timeline and order of events confused somewhat.  MICHIGAN submitted the application to the NCAA on February 26, according to the Detroit News.  Michigan's athletic department, including its Chief Compliance Officer, worked with Shea's attorney in constructing the application. From reports, I recall the the NCAA delayed in sending the packet to Ole Miss.

BoFan

March 31st, 2018 at 3:59 PM ^

Michigan should go for the jugular now. Submit anything at all regarding Miss recruiting violations including what they know about Treadwell and others. The schools all hear the stories but they typically choose not to point fingers.

SlickNick

March 31st, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^

It is infuriating that an SEC program can be blatantly caught cheating, and then pull some shit like this and try to block the kids from creating a solid opportunity for themselves. 

Imagine the media fire storm if Jim Harbaugh was caught on the phone with call girls, paying players and their families, and  arranging all this illegal shit, and then Michigan trys blocking all of the transfers opportunity to go make something of themselves at another school. The media would still be trying to burn Jim and Michigan to the ground....but since its the SEC, media and NCAA silence..nothing to see here! 

LDNfan

March 31st, 2018 at 4:57 PM ^

Its called "The Dirty South" for a reason.

A whole different standard applies to what is expected down there..this really isn't news..its just another day in the dirty south. And as crazy as it seems, I'm not sure recruits will give a shit either. At least not those from that neck of the woods. That is, as long as the boosters keep cutting the checks (I doubt that's going to stop...they'll just find another way...maybe borrow Kirby Smarts playbook or something). 

cobra14

March 31st, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^

They are fighting transfers along with fighting that they did anything wrong? From Info above blame Michigan on their end for not doing everything they were suppose to do.

Mgoczar

March 31st, 2018 at 4:13 PM ^

Is the state of mississippi even worthed? Worst in many categories. They are a leech than any actual contribution to USA. Like their football program. Ole Miss now becomes the most hated program in my book; more than OSU/Alabama etc. They cheat and then blatantly are denying doing this while further screwing student athletes. Bravo inbred sh!ts. 

Also, I never really followed this Shea thing, because its the NCAA people. Also Submarine. Just wait till ND game to know who the QB is gonna be. I don't think we'll know anything. Not worth the stress. It would be nice to get Shea starting but lets work through camps as a TEAM. Go blue!

 

ConcretePillow

March 31st, 2018 at 6:31 PM ^

Agree - the Michigan social media and PR people and this whole board needs to get about making this a story. The worse this looks, and the more coverage it gets the less likely the NCAA decides to look like the bad guys in this and are more likely to let Ole Miss wear that badge. Then again, it’s the NCAA so who knows...

Warm Cockles

March 31st, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^

Correct me if I'm wrong but if NCAA says no transfer won't Ole Miss and the NCAA face hellfire in the form of a huge lawsuit that is going to subject them both to more skeletons in the closet? What happened to that deterrent?

goblue61

March 31st, 2018 at 4:19 PM ^

currently sits #3 for the 2019 class. sounds like the right time to take the gloves off and negatively recruit the guys in their current class

Umich4Life

March 31st, 2018 at 4:20 PM ^

Fuck Ole Miss & the dixie train they ride! I call kinda bs in this post. Why are folks tripping? If they didn’t contest the transfers then that’s an admission of guilt. If those lawyers are that dumb then to hell with everyone, & I’ll puke my guts out of Wilton is “leading” this team in Sept.

Brian Griese

March 31st, 2018 at 4:23 PM ^

Shea wouldn’t be elgible barring substantial rule changes from the NCAA and got neg banged. Since there haven’t been any changes, I’ve never understood why all the rumblings were of optimism from the top down unless it was a way to get a narrative to the appeal panel. Mississippi was never going to quiet into the night and granting Shea and the others a waiver would be a huge precedent change, which I still don’t think will happen.

Sideline

March 31st, 2018 at 4:27 PM ^

You only said it to be negative. No one knows how this will play out... Ole Miss is doing their due diligence by not admitting any wrong doing. We are doing our due diligence by providing any/all material we can. Let it play out and let’s hope the powers that be get it right.

Brian Griese

March 31st, 2018 at 4:39 PM ^

say things to be positive or negative deliberately. My only point being, to the best of my knowledge, is the granting of a waiver in this situation would be a huge precedent change, which doesn’t exactly glean me with a ton of optimism. This team would certainly be better with Shea so I’ll gladly take my lumps if I’m wrong.

bacon

March 31st, 2018 at 4:27 PM ^

I'm not sure I understand at all why ole miss is involved at this point. On the face of it, I get that they're protecting their reputation, but the players are gone now. What do they get by fighting this? The players could argue it doesn't matter what happens to ole miss because the school couldn't demonstrate they weren't going to get punished. If ole miss is clean, it was up to ole miss to convince the players that the program was clean. They couldn't do that, so they left. now ole miss is seeking vengeance? It's really not their business what happens to these players. Of course we all know they were dirty, and the players and NCAA know it too. In fact, these players should just come out and testify against ole miss because then they'd probably be protected from ole miss by whistleblower laws.