OT: Scotch Drinkers, what is a good one to try?

Submitted by wolverine1987 on

So I love beer, and from all the many beer threads here have found many great ones to try. I also drink bourbon and whiskey, same thing. I'm interested in getting some scotch, which I've never really tried with any frequency. What is a good scotch to try?

Important note: I'm a pussy and drink bourbon with a 2-3 ice cubes, so something mellow but flavorful would be my style.

Magnum P.I.

February 25th, 2018 at 9:40 PM ^

Scotch is smoother than Bourbon or rye, in general, so it might be just your thing. With any new drink, I recommend getting two or three different (affordable) bottles that represent a spectrum of styles. That way, you can start to get a sense for the nuances and for what you like. For example, you could get one Highlands (e.g., Glenmorangie), one Speyside (e.g., Glenlivet), and one blend (e.g., Dewars) for about $100 and make a party out of it.

UMProud

February 25th, 2018 at 9:39 PM ^

Any of the Glens as others have noted. When you enjoy I would suggest drinking neat and taking small sips. Hold the scotch on your tongue for 3-4 seconds before swallowing so all the taste buds are engaged. You'll experience multiple interesting flavors with a great aftertaste.

jakerblue

February 25th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^

Westland is really good, while not technically a scotch since it’s produced in the US, is still that style. Try something that has been finished in a sherry cask.

BornInA2

February 25th, 2018 at 9:45 PM ^

Also...don't start with cheap stuff. It's cheap for a reason and like trying your first steak at a Denny's.

I am not a fan of the big names- Macallan, Glenlivet, etc. What they are is consistent, and while not bad (in the older bottles anyway), I find them to be a bit bland relative to other options (many of which are less expensive than Macallan).

Master of Malt is a good place to shop.

saveferris

February 26th, 2018 at 10:34 AM ^

Seconded.  You're selling yourself short if you stick to the more recognizable brands (Glenfiddich, Glenlivet, Macallan).  Be prepared to spend $55-65 and get a higher end 12 year old single malt (Balvenie, Dalmore, etc).

My advice, find a nice bar that deals in whiskeys and settle down a couple of weeks from now when Michigan plays its first round game.  Get a flight with a variety of scotch producing regions and work out what your palate likes.  Pick your bartender's brain.  At a higher end bar, there's a good chance he's pretty well versed in scotch and whisky in general.  A lot of what I've learned has come from just chatting up the bartender at my favorite cigar bar during a Michigan game.

evenyoubrutus

February 25th, 2018 at 9:51 PM ^

I would say any scotch >$50 is going to be excellent. What takes time is learning the difference in styles (smokey, peatey, blended vs single, etc). It's really hard to go wrong with scotch.

shoes

February 25th, 2018 at 9:52 PM ^

As mentioned only single malts distilled in Scotland can be called a Scotch but (I feel blasphemus for saying this as my father was born in Scotland), a friend of mine gave me a bottle of Yamazaki single malt, and it was pretty good.

ATC

February 26th, 2018 at 5:48 AM ^

If you wish a dependably smooth scotch whisky.... Deanston 18. (If you can find Deanston 16, grab it.... it’s equivalent....but I doubt it). Deanstons biggest problem IMO is their size, don’t produce the large volume nor pump marketing cash to get its name out Stateside like the big boys. It’s the equivalent of Armagnac kicking cognacs ass nevertheless succumbing to a greater marketing and volume influence. You are probably aware your state liquor commish can very much limit selection. Get your hands on your states list. Before you go over to the promised land of peated, make an investment in life and begin with a Highland first.

TC Wolverine

February 25th, 2018 at 10:04 PM ^

If you are a scotch newbie and don't like the "heat" (burning of your throat) that can often come from whiskey,  I would try Oban 14 year.   It's not super cheap but it is extremely smooth.   My personal favorite of everyday scotch is Talisker 10 which has a great combination of sweet and smoky without a lot of heat.   

 

 

saveferris

February 26th, 2018 at 9:49 AM ^

Oban is great, if you can stomach the price tag.  They are a smaller distillery, so they produce limited amounts every year, which as scotch popularity rises, has been driving the price up.  I remember being able to pick a up a bottle for around $65 in the mid-2000s.  Now it's $85 and the price keeps climbing.

Rick Sanchez

February 25th, 2018 at 10:09 PM ^

I like Dalwinnie. Best priced 15 year old scotch (older us better but you pay a higher price). For those times you want something with ice and/or water, Famous Grouse is good.

massblue

February 25th, 2018 at 10:11 PM ^

Drink sec or just with a few drops of room temperature water.

glenlivet 12 is a good neutral one to start with

talisker 10 or bowmore 15 are good Smokey ones

glenmorangie is very aromatic

Lagavulin is the best. Deep Smokey taste.

BlueRude

February 25th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^

At the customs store I suggest you try Dulwinnie, great value for a single malt. Go crazy and do 1/3 Vernors Ginger Ale with a glass. After a hockey tourney a goalie turned me in to this. Go fiigure.

FrontRowIn97

February 25th, 2018 at 10:17 PM ^

Lots of good suggestions here. Agreed that you do not anything peaty to start out...nothing from the islands (but when you are ready for that, Talisker is the way to go). My favorites are the Glenmorangies. Glenmorangie 10 is a great beginner scotch and a great value. If you like that, move on to the Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban which is my favorite. Another great one is The Dalmore. Enjoy.

asquared

February 25th, 2018 at 10:29 PM ^

Start out with Glenmorangie, GlenLivet, or Glenfiddich. If you try the peaty/smoky stuff right away it will turn you off (kind of like drinking an IPA as your first beer).

When your ready to move on to the peaty Islay's ---Laphroaig, Lagavulin, Ardbeg, Caol Isla, Taliskers (actually a Skye, but close enough), they will become your friends for life. 

Njia

February 26th, 2018 at 6:02 AM ^

Most scotch tasting classes will tell you that an ice cube or a drop (just a drop) of water will release phynols that produce more complexity in both aroma and taste. I don’t always do it, but I have noticed that there is a distinct difference.

gbdub

February 26th, 2018 at 12:41 PM ^

Let's not get all homeopathic here. A drop does nothing, but a few drops in a single shot are enough to change the proof, and that's really what you're going for. It's actually kind of fun to add water progressively throughout the glass to see how the flavors change - some will be more pronounced at higher proof, others will only start to shine at lower proof. Eventually it will get too thin and dull everything.

Ice (cold) will dull some of the flavors in addition to being an imprecise way to add water, and often ice in bars is made with crappy water, so that's the main reason not to do it.

Remember that all whisky that is not "cask strength" already has water added - water is added to the cask whisky before bottling to take it to the desired proof. The distiller selects a proof that fits their flavor profile (but probably a bit on the strong side, knowing that many drinkers like to add water). That may not be your favorite proof though, so feel free to experiment.

It's your Scotch, there's no wrong way to drink it. Yeah you're throwing your money away if you're mixing fine single malt with cola, but it's your money. I would just say to be open to trying it multiple ways to find what works best for you. Don't force yourself to drink it neat and hate it, if you love it with plenty of water, just because some snob told you your way was "wrong". This is supposed to be fun.

Der Alte

February 26th, 2018 at 9:40 AM ^

Several years ago in an Edinborough restaurant I asked our server to recommend a good single-malt whiskey. She did, and then, recognizing my Yankee accent, said, "I suppose ye'll be wantin' ice with it." I said yes, that's usually the way I take it. She responded "that's a terrible thing to do to a good whiskey."

A further thought. When you're about to board your next overseas flight, stop in the duty-free and pick up a litre of Johnnie Walker Black Label. For price and quality, it's as good a blended Scotch as you'll find. Buying at the duty-free results in some savings, and it'll make your European (or other overseas trip) that much more enjoyable. Of course on your return trip you can bring back the unused portion of the bottle, but better yet you can drink and share the whole bottle while out of the States then buy another at the duty-free (1 litre per person) for your return home.

DrAwkward

February 25th, 2018 at 10:30 PM ^

Glenfiddich 12 is my best recommendation for starter Scotch.

Or you could try Irish Whiskey.

Bushmills Blackbush is truly excellent for the price and easy to find.

 

Blumami

February 25th, 2018 at 10:43 PM ^

My first exposure to malt whiskey was Junior year (in college) when my roommate and I decided to split a bottle of Dewar’s to see what it was all about. By the time we got to the bottom of the bottle we agreed, ‘not bad.’ Since then, I’ve had the good fortune through my travels to try a number of those mentioned in this thread from the duty free — which can be a good value, either because of the bigger bottles or the ‘cask strength’ typically available there. Lagavulin 16 is far and away my favorite but for half the price Laphroaig 10 is a great option. Most duty free shops offer a selection of Japanese single malts from Nikki and Suntory. Among these, The Yamazaki is pretty much the standard. I believe Suntory Hibiki 17 (blended) is the brand of Bill Murray fame (Lost in Translation). While living in Shanghai a few years back, I discovered a Taiwanese malt whiskey called KaVaLan. I thought it was fantastic. Turns out it is critically acclaimed. Don’t knock it ‘til you’ve tried it.

Mr. Owl

February 25th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^

There are so many varieties out there that without knowing what you like, it's impossible to say "THIS ONE!"

My advice: When trying something, don't go cheap.  My first experience with scotch was Dewars.  It took over a decade before I tried scotch again.  Just awful.  When trying to save money I tried Cutty Sark.  Again, it's for people who want to just kill brain cells without enjoying any sort of taste.

Currently on my shelf is a bottle of Glenfiddich 12 year and another of JW Black Label.  The difference is vast, but the Glenfiddich is too expensive to drink too regularly.

(I also have a bottle of JW Blue that I save for occasions, and an unopened JW Gold... which they no longer make.  The "Gold Reserve" is awful.)

Also, avoid gimmicks.  The JW Double Black is like sucking on a charcoal brickette.

That said, the Glenfiddich Boubon Barrel Reserve is an excellent starting point.  Carmel & fruity.  Just a good bottle of alcohol.

ppToilet

February 25th, 2018 at 11:04 PM ^

I would say, though, that what I'd suggest would depend on the bourbon you are currently pouring yourself. If you're drinking something like Angel's Envy, then go with Glenmorangie, Macallan, Balvenie or Dalwhinnie (or secondarily, Glenlivet and Glenfiddich).

Ceal

February 25th, 2018 at 11:10 PM ^

my dad always had a bottle of glenlivet in the house and its smooth even tho I don't like it.   I think his stuff was 15 or 18 if I remember?

Ceal

February 25th, 2018 at 11:16 PM ^

that if you run it thru a brita filter, its even better?     I never had the balls to do that, but makes a bit of sense.     I am not that rich!   hahah