OT: Scotch Drinkers, what is a good one to try?

Submitted by wolverine1987 on

So I love beer, and from all the many beer threads here have found many great ones to try. I also drink bourbon and whiskey, same thing. I'm interested in getting some scotch, which I've never really tried with any frequency. What is a good scotch to try?

Important note: I'm a pussy and drink bourbon with a 2-3 ice cubes, so something mellow but flavorful would be my style.

LSAClassOf2000

February 25th, 2018 at 9:14 PM ^

If it is scotch specifically that you're looking to get, and you're willing to spend about $50 or so for the low to mid-range version (priced it out on Wine Globe and some other sites, bought one after I was gifted one), Macallan isn't a bad choice. I was gifted a bottle of it not too long ago and we've definitely enjoyed it. I understand that some of the rare and aged versions can be...expensive.

GoBlueDenver

February 25th, 2018 at 9:19 PM ^

Drink it with a small splash of spring water, first of all. Second, all bourbon basically tastes the same - not Scotch. If possible, find a bar that specializes in Scotch and find out if they’ll do a flight. You’ll notice that the tastes vary, largely based on where it’s distilled. The most accessible is the Scotch from the Highlands region - all the ones that start with “Glen” (that’s a river that a lot of distilleries draw their water from). Personally, I’m a big fan of the smoky, peaty (compost, basically) flavor that come from the Islands region - Laphroaig (one of the most distinct tasting Scotches), Lagavulin, and Isle of Jura (used to be one of the more reasonably priced ones - now kind of hard to find). If you want an accessible Scotch that’s not one that’s so common - try Glen Farklas. Solid one to have to impress the friends when you have company.

SD Larry

February 25th, 2018 at 9:21 PM ^

On rare occassion you can find at Coctco.  Honestly don't drink much  but its pretty good from what I remember and what people who know more than I do about it have told me.

evenyoubrutus

February 25th, 2018 at 9:48 PM ^

It's nice to have a Lagavulin on hand to show off to your buddies and maybe pour a dram here or there, but I honestly don't see the value in paying more than twice than you would for a bottle of Oban or Laphroaig, for example, which I believe taste just as good. Maybe my palate isn't developed enough but I was a little disappointed in it.

Birdman

February 26th, 2018 at 12:13 PM ^

So maybe not for all comers. Im not a scotch lover, I prefer the high end rums, but for me smoothness rules all. I can get down with flavour profiles for any booze, but it has got to be smooth.

JWolve

February 25th, 2018 at 9:19 PM ^

I recently got a bottle of Bowmore 12, and I've really enjoyed it. I personally don't like Laphroig so much, but McCallen and Glenfiddich tend to be good starters, in my lightly-informed opinion.  

RamblerRobotics

February 25th, 2018 at 9:25 PM ^

Try Traders Joe's. A lot of these retailers buy well known brands and put their own name on it (Kirkland Vodka is Grey Goose BTW).

For a first time scotch, it's not bad at all and it's $20. It's not like you're drinking Cutty Sark.

shoes

February 25th, 2018 at 9:29 PM ^

Many good suggestions above. I do love Auchentoshan, esp the 18 year but that is pricey. A gree that Glenmorangie 10, Glenlivet 12 and Glenfiddich 12 are all very good in the $40 to $50 range and Macallan is great. A few I really like but not yet mention are Balvennie, Dalwinnie, Talisker, and Highland Park.

When in the mood for a peaty smoky malt, I like Lagavuilin, though many prefer Laphroig in that category. 

UMQuadz05

February 25th, 2018 at 9:25 PM ^

I love a lot of these, but most of them are NOT for newbies. 

OP, get some Johnny Walker Black and see how it goes.  It's a blend, but a damn good one.  Scotch and bourbon can be in the uncanny valley from each other- I started on scotch and all bourbons tasted "wrong" to me at first. From there you can try some single malts and see how much "smoke" you like.  My own favorite is Talisker, but there are many many wonderful bottles to try.

Watts

February 25th, 2018 at 9:33 PM ^

Scotch is all very different depending on where its from and brand. I'm still very much new to the scotch game but enjoyed Johnny Walker Black and Green. Still not a Talisker or Bowmore fan. If I was going to start over I would start with Auchentoshan 12 or Glengoyne as the are a bit mellower and not as big of jump from bourbon. I don't know the price points of those in US and I know Glemgoyne 18 although very good isn't cheap. I wish I would have tried these before Lagauvlin or Talisker.

Watts

February 25th, 2018 at 9:36 PM ^

A whiskey group I'm in suggests buying sampler bottles wherever you can while learning and drinking flights to see the difference while mot being married to a whole bottle. I learned a lot about my preferred tastes with a scotch advent calendar.

bighouse22

February 25th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^

Generally speaking single malts will be smoother than blends.  My favorite is Oban 14 yr, but it will set you back about $80-$90.  As others have mentioned for the money Macallan 12 yr is pretty good too.

There are also peaty scotches out there too that will have a smoky flavor.  Laphroig or Lagavulan, if you are looking for something different.

ToledoWolverine

February 25th, 2018 at 9:26 PM ^

Who the hell knew there were so many different types of scotch? Bunch of drunks on this board. My people. I’m glad someone asked because I gotta give up the beer, and this looks like a good starting place.

Jetzio

February 25th, 2018 at 9:27 PM ^

Grab a bottle of monkey shoulder. It’s a relatively cheap and delicious way to start drinking neat. Somewhere btwn $28-32 depending on where you live.

JTGoBlue

February 25th, 2018 at 9:27 PM ^

But do some research to find what you like...speyside and highland have more of a crisper taste, Islay and lowland more smoky. Some insist single malt is better. Lots of choices and tastes.

Manoli

February 25th, 2018 at 9:31 PM ^

Aberlour Single Malt 16

I would recommend NOT starting with the Macallan 12. Not the smoothest pour, especially for someone trying to build their scotch legs.

 

EDIT: And please don't ruin good scotch with a splash of water.

shoes

February 25th, 2018 at 9:33 PM ^

with respect to drinking it neat, or adding a couple of drops of water, and I do mean drops. I didn't believe it at firrst when told, but in some cases it does really seem to "release the flavor" a bit.

Blue since birthed

February 25th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^

I’ve spent the last few years trying every Scotch I could get my hands on. I’m up to over two dozen so far. They’re so varied and taste is so subjective, it’s nearly impossible to recommend something with nothing to go on (hard enough if I already knew a few you liked). That said... I strongly prefer single malts. There are a few blends I can drink but they are well down the list below a bunch of single malts. My favorites are... Talisker 10 Highland Park 12 Laphroaig 10 and the Quarter Cask (these are very smokey... Or is it “peaty”? I’ve yet to get a clear answer on if these are different things and which is which in the nomenclature). Bunnhabhain 12 Aberfeldy 12 Edit- And yes, a little water is a good thing. It does bring out the flavors. I like to let it sit for a good 10 minutes or so after adding a little.

GBOD

February 26th, 2018 at 5:39 AM ^

For a starter something light from Speyside (Maccallan, Glenfiddich, or Balvenie) is good, but my go-to to introduce friends to Scotch is Talisker 10 because the peaty taste isn't overwhelmingly smokey like the Islay ones.

Oban 14 is also great, light and a bit smokey.

As others have said Ardbeg is amazing, but you may have to work your way up to that level of smokiness. Count me in the fans of Laphroaig.

Smokey/peaty I use interchangeably. The smokey flavour comes from drying the malt over a peat fire.

 

TheWretchedBlunder

February 25th, 2018 at 9:33 PM ^

If you're asking for scotch, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you're not interested in a blend, sinlge malt all the way. 

Without getting long here and since you're asking, I would recommend a baby scotch, both for price and your palate. 

Mac 12 is a standard

Balvenie 12, and/or a caribbean cask (aged in an oak barrel) is fine - this used to be a value until everyone discovered this shit was the BOMB. 

Anthing peaty (smokey, tastes awesome, smells like big foot's dick) - that's your call, but I would go with one of the above for starters. 

The older the hooch, the bigger the bite, soooo good but can be a little overwhelming if you're introducing to your palate for the first time. 

ENJOY!

Seth

February 25th, 2018 at 9:34 PM ^

Mellow puts you in the Glens. I like Dalwinnie for introducing people to scotch because it's got a little airyness to it, like as if the w was a wh and pronounced with the h first. My favorite is Aberlour 18. Here's the thing about Abelour: their 16 sucks compared to other 16s and their 12 is god awful but because the scotch market expects 16s and 12s, that's what you see on the shelves all the time. With no evidence or knowledge about the company itself I also hypothesize that they have an idiot son who inherited the business and keeps trying to make special things as if they were a Jack Daniels. All of their marketing goes toward "double cask" or "Ah'Bunadh" brands that are also bad. The 18 however is amazing, and often underpriced because the low quality of everything else they make sets a lower expectation.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

February 25th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^

I genuinely like scotch...now. But I feel like I really had to work to earn that. Anyway, I can tell some of the differences between the good ones, but I don't really care about the differences. So this list may be incoherent:

 

-Any of the "Glen-'s"

-Oban (could be my favorite but good luck having me explain that with language)

-Johnny Black

-Johnny Blue

-*NEVER* Johnny Red

BornInA2

February 25th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^

If you want to start with some variety, try Balevenie Doublewood 17 and Lagavulin 16 Distiller's Edition (not the standard Lagavulin 16, though that is also very nice).

That will get you a great, smooth Speyside and a great Islay, peaty and smokey.

My personal preference is to slowly sip without ice. I've tried it and just don't like the "flavor voyage" of a good single malt altered with ice.

MMB 82

February 26th, 2018 at 1:37 AM ^

Then you are looking at the Highland and Speyside malts, which are sweeter. Avoid Islay malts (like Lagavulin), which will be more on the smoky/peaty side. I agree that The Macallan would be a good place to start. 

Regarding water: Properly, single malt scotch should be taken almost neat, but with a few drops of water (not a splash). The idea is that the water combines with the esters in the scotch, and causes it to "open up," just like airing out a red wine. You want to put in just enough water to take the sting out of your nose when smelling it directly. In really dedicated scotch bars and stores they will actually have something like an eyedropper or a tiny pitcher for the purpose. The Scotts themselves call it "Angel's tears" to describe the effect. Oh, if you are going to put ice in it, DON'T.

 

Enjoy!