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12/09/2018 - 9:41am The team desperately needs a…

The team desperately needs a couple of game changing athletes on each side of the ball.  We need guys who can catch a short pass and take it the house on any play.  Looking at OSU they have those kind of athletes all over the field.  When Michigan got beat by FSU in the early 90s, they changed the type of athlete they recruited and went after speed.  Elite speed is the answer.  And yes I know Dax had it.  Big loss, not end of the world. 


12/09/2018 - 9:27am Of course I want 4 stars or…

Of course I want 4 stars or higher, but what I really want is speed across the board.  The weak links in the defense lacked elite speed and the skill players for OSU made them look bad.  

It's pretty tough to stay with 4.3 guys when you run 4.5+.

12/09/2018 - 9:24am What's done is done.  It is…

What's done is done.  It is pretty clear the loss to OSU has significantly impacted the narrative about the season.  We basically pulled an OSU by getting hammered and gave all the naysayers the opportunity downgrade the entire year and trajectory.  OSU is not in the playoff because they were beat down by Purdue and Michigan is taking hits because they gave up 62 and got curb stomped by OSU.

The only way for UM to change the narrative is to beat Florida convincingly.  Although we don't love the matchup it is critically important to recruiting and the impression of which direction this program is going.

This might be the biggest game in Harbaugh's tenure if Michigan is to be successful and he is going to have longevity as coach.  

Go Blue!

11/07/2018 - 9:51pm I don't agree on the non…

I don't agree on the non-conference schedule weakness point.  You would want a strong non-conference schedule because you don't get penalized if you win the Conference and you get a benefit if you want a chance to be the  2nd team from a Conference as an at large selection.  It's really a no lose situation if you lose out of conference and provides incentive for better out of conference scheduling.

In fact that is the caveat that I would add.  To be an at large team you would be evaluated based on non conference scheduling.  That way conference bias would not impact the selection and it would force SEC teams to schedule more competitive non-conference games.

11/07/2018 - 9:43pm There should be no advantage…

There should be no advantage for any team in the playoff.  It will just further feed the bias argument.  

11/07/2018 - 9:41pm They will lose a lot of…

They will lose a lot of viewership if they there is a 2nd year with two SEC teams in the playoff and now 3-P5 Conferences excluded. 


11/07/2018 - 9:36pm Great minds think alike!  I…

Great minds think alike!  I posted almost the same sentiment a minute later.

11/07/2018 - 9:34pm I like the way you are…

I like the way you are thinking, however one modification.  It needs to be an 8 team playoff with no byes.  If you go with the 1st round bye for the top 2 teams, the benefit will continue to give an unfair advantage to the SEC.  

8 Teams - Same set up as yours but 3 at large.  The Power Five Conference Champions are seeded 1-5 and 3 Wild Card/At Large selected by the Committee.  

Every conference gets a representative and there is room for other selections from conference or at large.  I would recommend a cap of no more than 2 teams from any one Conference to eliminate over ranking based on bias impacting the odds any more than they do already.

11/07/2018 - 8:13pm Michigan gets in past ND if…

Michigan gets in past ND if the committee values Conference Championships and the "eye test" over the head to head win by ND.  They would have to want to penalize ND the same way they did TCU when OSU got in for not being a part of a Conference Championship Game.

It may be possible and it WOULD send a strong message that ND could not ignore.

11/07/2018 - 8:08pm LSU belongs based on who's…

LSU belongs based on who's opinion?  They DIDN'T Score a point against Alabama while playing at Home.  Lesser teams have scored on Bama.  Stop the perpetual over ranking of SEC teams!  It is so inbred into the logic you might as well pencil in 2 SEC teams every year.

My question is  why bother having a Playoff if you are going to seed half the field with SEC teams every year.  This is just another failure!

11/07/2018 - 7:59pm The explanation for LSU was…

The explanation for LSU was the committee thinks they are better than OSU, WSU, etc.  I am sure they had data to back it up, but I hate the subjective sound of that when comparing how a 2 loss team should be in front of 1 loss teams.  

The justification is based on the wins against over ranked teams from the SEC.  It is totally self fulfilling.  It is already baked in to the equation.

11/07/2018 - 7:51pm Precedent has already been…

Precedent has already been set last year.  They can and will have Alabama in the playoff.  ESPN is already spinning that there is no other answer than Michigan being left out in favor of Alabama. 

I think the only hope would be that the committee considers Michigan's Conference Championship and NDs head to head win at the beginning of the year as offsetting variables and evaluates Michigan vs. ND based on today.

11/07/2018 - 7:46pm The only way this thing ever…

The only way this thing ever has any credibility and eliminate teams in a particular conference being propped up by the subjective "eye test" is the 8 team model.  

- 5 Conference Champs

- 3 at Large

It's that simple.  If there are at large teams either inside or outside of a P5 Conference, they get a shot at 3 openings.

It gives each P5 Conference a fair shot and you can't argue that a legit champion was established.  

Think of how ridiculous it would be if the Super Bowl Teams were chosen based on subjective measures from the same division in the NFL.  

11/07/2018 - 7:30pm The justification for a non…

The justification for a non-Champion was already set up last year.  Alabama didn't even make the Championship Game in the SEC and still got in.  It should have been an automatic disqualification.  Now having seen that they won it all last year, the genie is out of the bottle.  Plenty of justification to get them in.

The narrative will be that the best 4 teams make the playoffs, which is subjective because Alabama didn't have the resume last year, but passed the so called "eye test".

11/07/2018 - 7:11pm I am watching the clowns on…

I am watching the clowns on ESPN - College Football Live right now talking about how UM is out if Georgia beats Alabama in the SEC Championship. No balance in the discussion what so ever.  Just out, Alabama in period.

Sorry but the powers that be are already setting up the duck, just as mGrowOld is saying.  If that happens this system needs to be blown up.  As they said on BTN, what are we doing then.  Do you have to play in the SEC to get into the playoff?

11/06/2018 - 10:58pm If things go as planned, I…

If things go as planned, I think you are spot on.  Michigan and ND will flip spots regardless of the head to head due to the Conference Championship.

11/06/2018 - 7:38pm I agree that something seems…

I agree that something seems off with OSU, but I wont believe we can win until we actually do.  We need to remember they are still 8-1, it's not like the year when Hoke won and OSU wasn't very good.

11/04/2018 - 4:55pm BuckeyeChuck is spot on! …

BuckeyeChuck is spot on!  Some of the people on this site are pathetic.

09/08/2018 - 8:49pm I initially didn't think…

I initially didn't think much of ND either.  For some reason I failed to realize that ND was 10-3 last year and lost by 1 point to Georgia.  After someone I knew pointed it out to me it changed my perspective a little.  I think it may be possible that ND is better than my initial impression and a close loss to them may not be the end of the world.  

Time will tell!

09/04/2018 - 8:30pm Part of the joy of sports is…

Part of the joy of sports is the journey.  Every year is the same, you cling to the hope this year will be different.  Fans are still clinging to the hope that this loss does not mean the end of the season and there is still a chance.  

Hope is the best of things and part of the ride!  Enjoy it!

09/04/2018 - 7:51pm How is lowering expectations…

How is lowering expectations due to an early season loss any different than the years Bo was the coach.  In those days you could count on a close loss to ND early.  In the years they beat ND, they would lose to a team they would have no business losing to.  We have been conditioned to rationalize it for the last 50 years.

03/31/2018 - 10:37pm Pappy

If they win Monday night, I'm going to find a bottle of Pappy vanWinkle to celebrate!

03/31/2018 - 10:35pm Single Malt Scotch

Oban Little Bay 14 year!  Neat!

02/25/2018 - 9:39pm Isle of Jura

^ Isle of Jura is another good one for the money!

02/25/2018 - 9:35pm Single Malts

Generally speaking single malts will be smoother than blends.  My favorite is Oban 14 yr, but it will set you back about $80-$90.  As others have mentioned for the money Macallan 12 yr is pretty good too.

There are also peaty scotches out there too that will have a smoky flavor.  Laphroig or Lagavulan, if you are looking for something different.

02/25/2018 - 9:31pm Blends

JW Black is good for a blend, I would also give Dewars a try if a blend is the choice.  Good with ice or a little water and ice. 

01/01/2018 - 10:02pm Agree

This game was about youth, lack of focus and inexperience.  Not saying they couldn't win with those issues.  They were up by a large margin and should have won, but the unravelling came down to mental errors.

01/01/2018 - 9:57pm S&C in the SEC

I can't help but notice how much bigger both Georgia and Alabama look than the teams they are playing.  Even their RBs look bigger than the LBs.  Georgia did not look that way under Richt.  We need to look at what they are doing for S&C.  Obviously Georgia's coach came from Saban's coaching tree so I don't think it is a coincidence that they have a similar approach.

If I remember correctly there was some rumblings that Najee Harris's trainer prefered Bama too!

01/01/2018 - 9:33pm Patterson

Saying taking Patterson was a mistake may be one of the most ridiculous takes I have ever heard.  He was the #1 HS QB coming out.  You just don't pass up on that if he wants to be here. 

Your QB has to have mobility to be successful.

01/01/2018 - 9:16pm Eason and Fromm

Both Eason and Fromm were top ranked QBs coming out of HS.  They literally don't need to be developed, that's why they started as true freshman.  Not a good example, no one on Michigan's roster was the level of either QB coming in.

01/01/2018 - 7:12pm Lack of Focus

This loss and season has a lot to do with a lack of focus by a young team at key moments.  Muffed punts, bungled handoffs, throwing across your body and getting picked off in the endzone, etc.

01/01/2018 - 7:08pm Don Brown D

I agree with your take.  An occasional breakdown at the end of a game I can understand, but this is now becoming a trend the last two years against OSU, against Wisconsin, against FSU and now an awful South Carolina team.  When the team needs a stop the most, the D has not stepped up in big games.  Not sure if it is youth or scheme, but starting to see it to often.

The D needs to pick up the team, when a bad play happens on offense.  They seem to have a letdown when needed the most.

01/01/2018 - 6:38pm Disappointing Yes

This was definitely disappointing yes, but does not merit losing all hope.  Losing to Maryland, Rutgers, Toledo and App State are faith shattering losses!

01/01/2018 - 6:34pm Continuity

You don't fire Harbaugh, there needs to be continuity in the coaching.  The destabliliztion of the program was started by Carr.  Carr let recruiting slip before he was done.  He was supposedly opposed to Les Miles, so much so he encourage RR to pursue the job. He then supposedly told players they should transfer (i.e. Mallet) before even talking with Rodriguez.  The lack of support for RR when he was interim AD through his silence was deafening! 

The different camps that formed because of the Miles debacle were the start of the cancer that is here today.  If results are not National Championships after 3 years the fanbase becomes ridiculously divided.  Nothing will change if the coaching situation is unstable every 3 years.  Kids are committing asuming they will be with their coaches for the 3-5 years they remain at the school. 

Time for the fanbase to stand down and let the process play out.  Last year the entire MSU fanbase wanted Dantonio to fire his staff and questioned if his time was over?  Not looking at it that way this year after a great turnaround.

Take a look at the OSU boards, they have fans there that think Urban needs to go.  Think about that!   Emotion is great, but it can be irrational.  The fans think they

01/01/2018 - 6:09pm Baker

I am watching Baker Mayfield and the difference between his sideline demeanor and Peters is striking.  Geogia just ran for a 75 yard TD and Baker is standing there with a look that says - ok it's on!

01/01/2018 - 6:02pm Peters

I'm sorry but if he couldn't handle the competition with Patterson, then how would he be able to handle hostle away games at ND, MSU and OSU.  He is just not up to the challenge.  He showed no leadership ability when the chips were down. 

He had no game awareness or defensive awareness. Just totally spaced out.

01/01/2018 - 5:28pm 4th Place Team

Let's face it, Michigan played like the 4th place team in the B1G East today.  They played like their standing.  On top of that they were probably the 5th best team in the B1G overall.  Next year should be better as a young team gets better.  MSU will also be improving and next year will tell a lot.  Expecting Michigan to sweep through the B1G is probably setting us up for disappointment, but we should also expect them to be in the hunt.

01/01/2018 - 5:17pm Young Players Will Improve

This team has a lot of young receivers and they will get better.  Chesson and Darboh did nothing as Freshmen or Sophmores.  They improved their Junior seasons and were not really good until they were seniors.  This is typical for most receivers transitioning from HS to College.  Even Calvin Johnson was not good during his first year in the Pro's.  It's just how it goes unless you have a once in a decade type talent.

Patterson will help at QB and the line should be better on the interior.  Question mark is Tackle.

01/01/2018 - 4:50pm Season's Over

Season's over, you are not going to hear anything for a while.  Time to forget this season and move on!

01/01/2018 - 4:47pm This is Lloyd Redux!

He is correct this is Lloyd Redux, but without the loss to App State yet!  The play calling is not to lose and way to conservative, which was a staple of Lloyd's teams.  In fact the National Championship was in an era when you didn't have to play the #2 team so we don't really know what Michigan won other than an undefeated season.  That undefeated season occurred because of a dominant Defense.  It wasn't the offense! 

Also, the B1G was bad when Lloyd was winning.  The only other decent team was OSU and once they got a good coach (Tressel), Michigan couldn't beat them.  Now the B1G is one of the best conferences in the country, Lloyd would lose big in this version of the B1G!

01/01/2018 - 4:03pm Troubling

Peters looked totally clueless out there late in the game.  It is inexplicable that he slid short of the first, which would have stopped the clock.  Then he got up and had no urgrency.  He looks like he was on another planet. 

Need a short throw and he is out there throwing bombs.  Need a long conversion and he is dumping it off. 

I just don't it.

11/19/2017 - 9:43am Development

It will get better each year as the program builds.  The backups will not be freshmen, they will be sophmores, juniors, or seniors that already understand and have experience in the system.  I think they need to stay consistent and keep building the entire program. 

I am not happy with saying wait until next year, but it will get better.  I don't expect them to be world beaters next year either, but they should win a few none expected. 

2019 will be the season that it all will be apparent.  Clemson under Dabo Sweeney took time to build as well and we are in the same position.

11/19/2017 - 9:37am First year WRs

First year receivers are rarely productive in college or the pro's.  Even Calvin Johnson had a poor first year with the Lions.  It takes time to develop.  They will get better moving forward and Michigan will reap the dividends. 

Pro style does work in college, but takes a little more time to develop than the spread.  Once the personnel (first time starters and backups) are firmly established, you will see consistently winning teams moving forward.

I will admit I wish that they had a more creative offensive staff, but understand what they are trying to build. 

I have wanted a defensive coordinator like Don Brown forever.  A defense that is aggressive on every down.  I can handle getting beat once and a while playing that way.  Now I am looking for the same mentality on offense.

11/19/2017 - 9:29am MSU

MSU has two factors in it's favor over UM.  They have a power running backfield that can grind out tough yards.  I like Evans and Isaac, but they go down quite easy on first contact.  Our best back is Higdon, who keeps his legs going  on contact.  The other factor in their favor is a better QB in Lewerke.  He is mobile and gritty.  The combination helps them extend drives.

It comes down to a couple of critical positions as the difference.  Deveon Smith was a big factor in UMs success last year.  The pounding style wears down a defense the way that UW did yesterday to Michigan's defense.

11/19/2017 - 8:52am No Comparison to Hoke or RR

I am disappointed by how the year has gone, but there is no comparison between Harbaugh and Hoke or RR. 

RR and Hoke were beaten handily by bottom dwealers in the B1G.  Although Harbaugh hasn't had many signature wins against top teams, the team has not lost to teams that they shouldn't.  MSU is much improved and will be even better next year. 

Wisconsin's QB hit the passes he needed to hit.  The passing windows were inches and he made big time throws.  Give it up to them.  The coverage was good, just perfect throws. 

Next year they will improve, but we may be starting a new QB.  Need to see how it plays out.  I like Peters, but he needs to recognize the rush and get rid of the ball quicker.  It's not HS anymore.

10/22/2017 - 9:47am Lol

As much as they run on 3rd or 4th and long they probably thought play action would really fool PSU.  It was either going to be that or a draw.

10/22/2017 - 9:32am The Trap

RR's time was limited no matter what.  The trap was that he ignored the defense and tried to out score everyone on offense.

The trap for Harbaugh is that he fixed the defense by hiring the best Def. Coordinator in the country, but will he do the same on offense.

As much as I don't care for Franklin, he is similar in his approach to Meyer.  They hire top notch innovative minds for offense and defense.  If Harbaugh goes down the same path and fixes the offense he will be a legend.  If not, he will be just like Carr, close but no cigar!  Teams that compete occasionally but come up short against more innovative minds.

The trick is finding a coach that has both sides of the ball operating at the top of the profession, not one side at the expense of the other.  Hopefully JH is that guy. 

I would think that they guy who watched a traffic cop to observe what made him so good at what he did is doing the same with his peers in the profession and learning from their success.

I believe JH is that person and he will adapt.  He is too competitive to stand pat and accept the status quo. 


10/22/2017 - 9:17am Pro Style Teams

The problem is most HS now run the spread.  Pro style players can win like Bama, but you need top recruiting classes with 5* players at every position or a consistent staff that develops those players for years in college (like MSU). 

We are getting 5* on defense, but need the same on offense on the lines and at RB.  Otherwise it will take more time like it did for MSU.

I personally would prefer that similar to the defensive staff, that Harbaugh would make a similar move to a power spread approach.  Or better yet, I wish we would have gotten a Kevin Wilson to run the offense.  That coupled with Don Brown would be lights out. 

I have never understood why it is so hard to have a top offense and top defense at the same time.

Harbaugh makes staff changes every year to attempt to make the team better.  Let's see what next year looks like, but I think Drevno has a 5 year deal so I think continuity is the name of the game.

10/22/2017 - 9:06am Continuity

Continuity is the key.  As more recruiting classes come in the team will improve.  This team is an 8 win squad consistent with the Vegas line early in the year.  We were all encouraged by the Florida win and the start, but the team is the youngest in the country and they are not up to the level of PSU or even OSU. 

8 wins with a team as young as this one, probably means good things to come. 

Key position questions moving forward are QB, RB and Oline.  If that gets sorted out, the future is bright.

10/22/2017 - 8:52am The Oline

It's an amazing thing to watch, but the RR years and total change in offensive strategy really set the oline back.  This is the 3rd staff struggling to get the line where it needs to be.  The issue with this staff is finding good tackles.  I think the interior line will be fine. 

With Frey added to the staff, it's going to take time for the young offensive tackles to develop.  That's just how it is with tackles unless you get top notch 5* Alabama level tackles. 

If there is a recruiting failure this is it.  Let's hope Filliaga starts at one of the tackle positions next year.