jmblue

February 24th, 2018 at 5:37 PM ^

Right, you made an avatar that says "Wolverine Devotee" (as opposed to, you know, your actual username).  What a strange coincidence!

Or maybe, you tried to avatar-jack and pass for a better-known poster so you could concern troll at will.    

I don't know dude, it's tough for me to tell which it is.

 

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Bubba

February 24th, 2018 at 5:43 PM ^

You are a super sleuth. WD and I actually have a ton in common. *We both have zero affiliation with Michigan *We both have an obsession with Michigan sports *We both live in our parents basement It must be difficult living life in the 10%

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SouthOfHeaven

February 24th, 2018 at 6:45 PM ^

Hate to break it to you, but regardless of what happened, Michigan kicked State's ass. It's time for your Spartans to go back to the drawing board, because whatever they've been pulling there hasn't worked. It makes sense that you're unconcerned with these issues, because there's no win against Michigan this season to vacate anyway, and there still won't be after the BTT. The quality of your posting rivals that of Ward's ankles after his encounter with Mo Wagner. Go away. 

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Pepper Brooks

February 24th, 2018 at 8:25 PM ^

The BIG schedules were so unbalanced this year that, even though MSU has finished on top, it does not mean much.  Against the best teams in the conference, sparty is 0-1 vs UM (at home!), 0-1 vs OSU, they beat Purdue but only played them at home, they beat Nebraska but only played them at home, they beat Penn State but only played them at home.  In fact, their conference road results look this:  W @ 3-14 Rutgers, L @ 15-3 OSU, W @ 3-14 Illinois, W @ 8-10 Maryland, W @ 9-9 Indiana, W @ 3-14 Iowa, W @ 4-13 Minnesota, W @ 6-11 Northwestern (and needed NW to shoot 3 of 23 in the 2nd half to win).  

 

Sparty did not win a single BIG road game against a team with a winning record.  Their conference strength of schedule is 13th out of 14 teams.  It seems to me like they didn't really win anything.

 

Bring on the BIG Tournament!

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Blue4You

February 25th, 2018 at 9:40 AM ^

MSU remains the 2018 B1G Champs. Nebraska wins at home today and Michigan gets a shiny 5th place trophy! In all seriousness, Michigan playing extremely well. Def will be a factor. But stop talking shit about a team who...This crap goes both ways though... Beat the shit out of North Carolina on Neutral court (UM got smoked by UNC on the road) Beat the shit out of Nebraska at home (UM got smoked by Nebraska, on the road) Beat Purdue at home (UM lost to Purdue at home) Beat Northwestern on the road (UM lost to Northwestern on the road by 9) Beat Maryland at home by 30 (UM beat Maryland at home by 1) Beat Indiana by 28 at home (UM beat Indiana by 15 at home) Beat Minnesota on the road by 30 (UM beat Minnesota at Home by 3 in OT) Beat Illinois at home by 20 (UM beat Illinois at home by 10) Throw in Michigan scraping by at home to Central Michigan, and a loss to LSU?! And you’re talking smack to a team who won the conference title, who is 27-3 and 15-2 in the league?

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Jibbroni

February 24th, 2018 at 5:28 PM ^

This isnt going to end well for them. Tommie's tryin to grab those trophies this year. It doesnt matter if they get vacated later, he'll still say he won em fair n' square. Its a microcosm of life. "Everybody cheats, everybody has a sexual abuse problem. Nothing to see here. By the way, we"ve won 11 in a row!" Do right in life. That way you wont have to be one of those hacks that has to continually have an internal dialogue that tries to justify what you did is right.

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Ceal

February 24th, 2018 at 5:32 PM ^

But it seems to me that the investigation is still ongoing, and that all players/coaches listed by Yahoo are technically cleared to play until the investigation is complete and penalties are handed out.   But as with Texas and Zona, they can hold out any players listed at the discretion of the university.   

I think the wording is telling in how he is cleared to play, and not cleared of any wrong doing.   Like some said above, I think MSU may have to vacate wins anyway so why not play him.   Seems as tho the NCAA would probably prefer all listed players to play also as to not drop ratings.   As usual, this is a circus tho in the actions/words of the NCAA.

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Coach Nero

February 24th, 2018 at 5:55 PM ^

Since it is just a Yahoo Sports Story. They can’t just go and sit people based on a leak. However, 300 hours of tape conversations and other information that the FBI has will come out at some point. Maybe the FBI leaks are to give the NCAA a heads up that future heads are gonna roll.

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Ceal

February 24th, 2018 at 5:56 PM ^

just decommitted from Zona.   This really is just the tip of the iceberg, and although Zona has taken some of the focus off of MSU, I think so much more will come out that will destroy MSU as some have known it.   GO BLUE!

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Our Man in Havana

February 24th, 2018 at 5:57 PM ^

There’s a pretty decent chance that whomever winds up being the national Champion eventually has the title stripped and their wins vacated, but that’ll be a couple of years down the road, and small consolation to the runner-up. Been THERE before, eh? At least with the Tour de France, they give the title to the highest finisher (like, the 7th place guy) who passes the PED test.

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Blue Ninja

February 24th, 2018 at 6:02 PM ^

I wouldn't read too much into this. Every player mentioned so far has been allowed to continue playing. There is only one person who is sitting the pine and thats Sean Miller, no players have yet been suspended as universities seem to be taking the course of try to win and hope you don't get Louisville'd.

There will be suspensions coming and penalties assessed. Remember we are moving at NCAA speed on this one. Only good thing is they will have FBI evidence to stand on instead of trying to find someone willing to squeal on their program.

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AC1997

February 24th, 2018 at 6:07 PM ^

In my lifetime of fandom there have been three times our program ran into an issue with the NCAA. I won't debate the merit of the evidence other than to say that Michigan wasn't totally clean in any case. But in each case the NCAA threw the book at Michigan and penalized them more than they have for any other similar infraction. In this case the Jamal Crawford situation is probably the closest parallel. He sat out half a season and could only regain eligibility if he paid his former guardian $10k back. Yet so far all of these guys walk scot free. WTF?

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blueday

February 24th, 2018 at 6:09 PM ^

abuse during tounrey games.  Should be very creative and spectacular.  Not sure the players will be able to withstand the abuse.

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Maize4Life

February 24th, 2018 at 6:35 PM ^

you either took the money or you didnt..The parents either accepted bribes or they didnt and the NCAA is NOW Ok with ALL of it?    WTF?

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HailHail47

February 24th, 2018 at 6:46 PM ^

If MSUs Big Ten banner from this year stands when all is said and done from these investigations, then I’m in favor of putting our Fab Five banners back up. If ethics are being thrown out the window so blatantly, it’s time to reconsider whether we really sinned at all.

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NateVolk

February 24th, 2018 at 6:54 PM ^

Why not play them? Worth the risk as you've already been playing an ineligible player anyways. So you can't claim any ethical high ground by sitting him now. And he might eventually get cleared. 

Sit him and you're dead meat as far as winning anything going forward.

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jbrandimore

February 24th, 2018 at 7:01 PM ^

14 employees notified at least. One title IX investigation and not a thing was found. Yet, fhe Sparties think a couple hours spent yesterday afternoon, also finding nothing means Izzo and Co. are innocent. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

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bronxblue

February 24th, 2018 at 7:27 PM ^

I think the wording in the article is misleading. The NCAA didn't find him innocent or anything, they just agreed that he could keep playing. If the facts MSU presented turn out to be wrong or incomplete (already we've heard of more backroom conversations that I'm sure the school did not discuss fully), then he's ineligible. I don't blame them for playing him now because it won't change anything, but they certainly aren't out of the woods yet.

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mooseman

February 24th, 2018 at 8:12 PM ^

If he plays and MSU succeeds we will still hear "It was decided on the court, you can't take that away." Just like Louisville. 

Fans don't care. Unless the NCAA actually comes out and says "Michigan is the 2013 National Champion because Louisville cheated/players were not eligible, etc", for instance, vacated wins mean nothing.

 

So why not play him? What's the downside?

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